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    Posted: 27 April 2007 at 6:51am

Sounds more like a pea heart pakistani  problem to me, they have collapsed many times at the hands of good quicks, like most asian sides.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:01am
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Every one has their bad days mate and i find it alarming that you can go off that to make this assumption that aussies suurender to quick bowlers. 


Aussies don't have those bad days since 96 though.
Remember the 2005 ashes series and a bloke called Flintoff? Tri series against England and NZ a couple of months ago? A loss to Bangladesh 12 months ago? It has happend plenty of times since 96 mate. Every side has bad days so when you can understand that, then maybe you will realise that there is no such thing as unbeatable. The series you are refering to was in 2002 and i still think what you are saying is rubbish!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:05am
There is a big difference with surrendering and being scared, to being beaten by a good bowling display on the day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:08am
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There is a big difference with surrendering and being scared, to being beaten by a good bowling display on the day.
I totally agree. Not once have i ever seen the Aussies being scared or surrending to anyone! Load of garbage.... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:28am
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Originally posted by 143no

There is a big difference with surrendering and being scared, to being beaten by a good bowling display on the day.
Not once have i ever seen the Aussies being scared or surrending to anyone! Load of garbage.... 


LoL... You can have that experience by watching videos of that 3-match series!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:33am
I don't need to see any videos, I have seen enough of both sides over the last 25 years to know who gets intimidated by pace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:54am
Nor do i my friend. Why are we talking about Pakistan anyway? Who cares? They couldn't even make the super 8's and they can talk about surrendering? Worry about your own side before you look at faults with any other team. Australia to win comfortably against the Lankans i think. Too big, Too quick, Too strong. No repeats of 96 this time, the Aussie side is much better this time round!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 8:10am
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Nor do i my friend. Worry about your own side before you look at faults with any other team.


Yes... They do give up more number of times than desired.  And I'm not optimistic about Pakistan. They were poor in all fields.

Aussies are strong, and should win it comfortably. No more surrendering this time!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 8:25am
Wow you are frustrating. Enough with the surrender stuff already. You just cant sem to get that word out of your head.....And its still rubbish! (your statement not your head)!Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by tonks007

Nor do i my friend. Why are we talking about Pakistan anyway? Who cares? They couldn't even make the super 8's and they can talk about surrendering? Worry about your own side before you look at faults with any other team. Australia to win comfortably against the Lankans i think. Too big, Too quick, Too strong. No repeats of 96 this time, the Aussie side is much better this time round!
 
your a joke, comfortably? watch when yur side falls to us, ill bring this quote back up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 5:09pm
and I'm sure he'll bring yours up if the result goes the other way
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 6:06pm
If Sri Lanka manage to somehow win then it will be the biggest upset of the tournament

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 6:33pm
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If Sri Lanka manage to somehow win then it will be the biggest upset of the tournament

 
I'd say Ireland beating Pakistan was the biggest upset. Me and my mates have started calling it the St. Patricks Day Massacre.
 
I think the final will be close but there's a few X factors which need to be considered.
 
If Malinga is on form he could rifle through the Aussie line-up like he did with the 4 in 4 balls against SA. There's also Murali and Vaas to take into account.
You've also got to take into account the Batting performances of Jayasuriya and Jayawardene.
 
Then you get to the Aussies. Unbeaten and now back at full strength as far as I know. Expect Hayden and Gilchrist to play the only way they know how, in ODI's at least, and that's all guns blazing. If they get on top early in the Aussie Innings then I think that Sri Lanka won't be able to stop it before it's too late. Whether the Aussies bat 1st or 2nd (I'd Bat 2nd with the way that pitches have been during the WC) Sri Lanka need to take a few very early wickets in the hope of a knock on effect.
 
If I had to choose based on what's in front of me now I'd say Australia win but cricket's a funny old sport when it comes to upsets.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by Rifat

If Sri Lanka manage to somehow win then it will be the biggest upset of the tournament

It's not an upset buddy. It would just be the good team on that day winning it.
It could be either SL or Aus depending who brings their A game to play
So let the best team winClap(On 28th April 2007Wink)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:14pm
Well I hope for the benefit of world cricket that Sri Lanka do win.
Its getting boring to see Australia win every game


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 12:18am
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If Sri Lanka manage to somehow win then it will be the biggest upset of the tournament

Sri Lanka is a VERY good team and if they manage to beat the aussies then they deserve it and it will not be the biggest upset of the tournament. In fact they should be expected to play a very high standard of cricket tomorrow! (God willing).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 12:30am
I'm out most of tomorrow and then again in the evening so I will see very little of it but I will simply repeat my plea for a great match that captures the imagination of cricket fans everywhere
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 12:53am
doen't for get that SA beat Sri lanka and we beat them two times now!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 12:59am
9 year old's logic is always such a reliable form guide
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 1:35am
Last match for Arnold,Mcgrath and Jayasuriya. They should all play a memorable last match.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 2:28am
If players last games are anything to go by this WC then they will all perform poorly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 5:42am
Originally posted by Jayasuriya

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Nor do i my friend. Why are we talking about Pakistan anyway? Who cares? They couldn't even make the super 8's and they can talk about surrendering? Worry about your own side before you look at faults with any other team. Australia to win comfortably against the Lankans i think. Too big, Too quick, Too strong. No repeats of 96 this time, the Aussie side is much better this time round!
 
your a joke, comfortably? watch when yur side falls to us, ill bring this quote back up
Jaya, you are the joke around here buddy and i hope that you bring this up tomorrow, i have already told you that you will be eating your words and i will stick to that. "Jaya the Joke!" Bring it on!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 6:06am
Austrailia is having the upper hand given the state of that pitch. And Sri Lankans don't play Hogg well. To make a match of it Fernando have to be played. If he gets it right of a fast bouncy pitch at 90+ mph and with deadlt incut he'll knock over few of the best of the Autrailians (remember what he sent at Tendulkar!) Vaas will be a different bowler and I suspect that Hayden will try to boss him. Malinga will be given some respect because you can expect a jaffa any time by him. Murali will be played safely and Jayasuriya's bowling will be the target. Arnold and Dilshan - 4 overs in total by them - forget them.

Conversely Jayasuriya will go after Tail from the word go. They'll give lot of respect to Bracken, but if Jayasuriya gets set, he'll take McGrath absolutely to the cleaners! (believe me!) Jayauriya is the only one capable of hitting Hogg out of the attack. Set Mahela at end will see lot of runs coming because he's the best improviser. If Jayasuriya and Mahela don't fire at same time SL will lose
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 6:08am
Fernando is out and Maharoof is replacing him
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 7:25am
Showers have been forecast for tonights final so it may well go into a reserve day and be finished tomorrow. I bloody hope not! We have all waited 7 weks for this day to come, imgine we had to wait another day??? I would go nuts!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 7:40am
Originally posted by tonks007

Fernando is out and Maharoof is replacing him
I have not heard that he was injured. Maharoof is not a front-line bowler. he's a batting all-rounder. Against fire of aussies we need fire of Malinga, Fernando, and discipline of Vaas and Murali.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 7:58am
Fernando isn't injured, he was dropped for being "wayward" vs the Kiwi's. Maharoof made the side ahead of him....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 8:24am
There goes probably the second major mistake that Sl selectors have made (1st was selecting Russel Arnold over Upul Chandana)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 8:54am
Great Viv Richards has predicted an upset in the final, but then he also predicted a final between SA and newzealand, so he has all the chances to be wrong. Yes an off day, a bad day happens to teams, and thats what every cricket pundit has been hoping.  Well ausies might have a bad day on the field, infact even this thinking is a great complement to Ausies meaning that even if any other side plays to its potential it can not beat ausies unless they have a bad day.
 
Ausies have been so massive for so long that almost very one favours anyone against them , but my gut feeling that Ausies will turn the next match again into a one side affair within the power plays and demolish the third Asian side in the same manner as they did to the last two in consequetive finals.
 
Just a remineder to evryone, 1999 they bowled pakistan out of the world cup within the power plays, Pakistan made 133 runs. The next one in 2003 they batted indians out, in the power plays finally making 370 runs a highest ever in the world cup finals leaving them woth nothing but to play out the overs!
 
Why? Firstly they have somehow planned their strategy to save against a bad day, thats why no bad day in world cups since 1999 when they lost to Pakistan in a league match. They have their plans for a batting collapse and have bowlers to counter any batsmen if they go out of control. Secondly their strategies in semis and finals are 200% aggressive and planned, and with consistant pressure in bowling, batting and fielding they eventually outclass any side mentally. Once they have the mental edge they usually get better of any side.
 
So I may wish a very well contested final, or an upset may be, but suspect another one sided , massive win by Ausies!
so far so good!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2007 at 8:59am
Just to add on to my previous post, see how good a side ausies have, they lost their best bowler in 2003 Warne out for use of some drug, but they won everymatch effectively, this time again lost their spearhead Lee just before the cup and even that did'nt effect them a bit!
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