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    Posted: 26 March 2009 at 2:11am
I know it may be a little early to start this thread, but I needed somewhere to rant about this and this seemed probably the best thread to do this in. Shame to start it with a rant %20%20%20.
 
I'm rather annoyed by the selection for the 3rd placed playoff in the Pro Arch trophy between Yorkshire and Lancashire.
 
The selection I'm talking of was the selection of Brophy behind the stumps. Don't get me wrong, I like Brophy but we have a 19 year old keeper (2nd generation wicketkeeper but that's besides the point) who did quite well with the gloves against the UAE, and needs the experience for the future.
I'd have much preferred to see Bairstow in the side today than Brophy. We know what Brophy can do with bat and gloves, but we need to start getting ready for the future.
 
There has been some good performances throughout the tournament from the youngsters to be fair.


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Here in Leicestershire everyone is in a great state of excitement at the news of our overseas player for this season, one of the true world greats.....erm...Ian O'Brien. Another mediocre trundler being exactly what we need, to accompany the mediocre stodge of Boeta Dippenaar's batting.

On the plus side lots of youngsters are set to get a good run in the team this season, the most exciting of those being pace bowler Nathan Buck. Another to look for is 17 year old batsman Josh Cobb, already established in the England U19's, alongside Buck and another of our promising young boys, James Taylor.


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James Taylor !!  The singing in the showers should make up for the dross out on the field Clobs!
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Talk of the devil, the young man has just made his maiden FC century today. Coming in still 40 odd runs behind in the second innings with 5 wickets down he's scored them out of 150 odd scored while he's been at the wicket, which suggests he's made of the right stuff.
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For your sake , I hope so mate.  My gutfeel is it's more than likely to be a very long and potless season for mighty Leicester.
 
    Now Lancashire are a different kettle of fish ......
  
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2009 at 11:34am
It will be different for Lancs - they will flatter to deceive before choking at the final hurdle, same as every other year :D

Leics will hardly win a game this season, but if a couple of the young lads do come on, the longer term benefits will be significant.
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The sun's going to shine all summer in the North West Clobs - that's why the silverware's going to Old Trafford ! 
      I've heard that it's HD's benefit year , is that right ?  Let's hope he passes on some sound advice to your youngsters.
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I hadn't heard anything about that. This is only his 5th season here anyway, so he wouldn't be eligible for one.
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Vaughan failed yet again yesterday. Does it mean curtains for him? No more Ashes glory?
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I hadn't heard anything about that. This is only his 5th season here anyway, so he wouldn't be eligible for one.


 I'm getting old Clobs - he's got a benefit here in SA this year ! Embarrassed
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Vaughan failed yet again yesterday. Does it mean curtains for him? No more Ashes glory?


  It doesn't look good , does it.  I think it would be a backward step to bring him in now. Bell could force his way back in if he continues to score big runs , probably at the expense of Collingwood.
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We might just see either of Vaughan or Bell in the midst of The Ashes. Bopara has a lot to do, and the Aussie bowler won't find him hard to dismiss. Maybe, Bell or Vaughan for the 3rd test.
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I think the Aussies wouldn't find it hard to dismiss Bell either.  Warne's not around this time though so he'd enjoy it a bit more at least.

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Phillip Hughes has scored his 3rd 100 in 4 innings, with the 4th innings being a not out half century. He is in awesome touch and is loving the conditions out there in England. His first class average is now a staggering 70 - not bad for a 20 year old. England will have to keep a close eye on this little country kid from NSW. He honestly looks like our best batting find since Ricky Ponting debuted as a 21 year old against SL.
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Only 2nd division bowling though matey !  Talented , no doubt , but he's filling very big shoes this summer and I think the English camp will be thinking more about the Pontings , Clarkes and Husseys rather than this youngster.
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I still think he'll have pickings on the English conditions.
He took consecutive centuries against Safrica after all!!!
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Originally posted by Sledger

Only 2nd division bowling though matey !  Talented , no doubt , but he's filling very big shoes this summer and I think the English camp will be thinking more about the Pontings , Clarkes and Husseys rather than this youngster.


There's a few names in those bowling attacks Sledge, and the bloke has been ripping apart attacks over here in Australia and most of them are players of note (Guys like Siddle, Dirk Nannes, Brett Dorey, Steve MacGoffin, Ben Hilfenhaus, Shaun Tait, etc.). I think that the way he's playing indicates that the England conditions aren't too onerous for him and it's just giving him more and more match practice in similar conditions, perhaps lesser bowling, but similar conditions nonetheless....
... I still can't think believe how well he did in RSA, first test series, great bowling attack, filling in huge shoes and an unfamiliar playing environment.
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He's a fine prospect and through the offside is lovely to watch , but it's early days yet.  I don't think the South Africans did their work on him and gave him plenty of width. Hopefully the English are studying those innings and have plans. Like many freescoring youngsters it'll be interesting to see how he responds to being tied down - will he lose patience ?  If he does do the business over the 5 tests (an average of 40-odd would do it) then I'd admit that Oz has solved one of the problems resulting in the retirement of Hayden and Langer.
            It'll be fascinating to watch - it's always great to see new talent emerge no matter from which country.
   
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A lot of players have great starts to their career then one team finds one weakness of theirs and that's it.  Time will tell but it's always gonna get fans excited when someone shows as much promise as this lad is showing.
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Absolutely, agree with you both. He's just a great prospect which I'm really proud to see represent my nation. He reminds me a lot of Phil Jaques with his off side play and aggression, but then Jaques changed his style and he certainly scores a lot more slowly now, trying to be more patient. I see this happening with Hughes, he'll grow more patient and value his wicket more. He ended up scoring 195 in the 2nd division, and that goes along with his 198 he scored for NSW... he's got a decent temperament for a youngster to play an innings that long, no matter who you're playing (the attack he faced included Andre Nel, not a bad player I must say).
It's early days, but yes, if he can manage to average above 40 in the Ashes, the selectors will stick with him.
We still have Phil Jaques waiting for a recall, and Chris Rogers and Michael Klinger had the most amazing domestic seasons. So there are 3 back up openers who are capable, and Hughes will know this very well.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NZ_Fast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2009 at 2:19am
Approve Jeetan Patel whacking 120 from no 10. I always felt he's underrated in his batting abilities, he always seems to see the ball so well. Though, he's not allrounder material, more along the lines of Brett Lee's batting really. 
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Yerp, good stuff from Patel. Not unusual to see the spinners among the runs, a lot of spinners I've seen have batted with some ability. Obviously I'm excluding Phil Tufnell because he's not really a spinner .

Warne has a test 99, Saqlain and Kumble each have a ton, Daniel Vettori has scored a few test centuries, Harbhajan can bat, etc.
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Lets put it tis way - modern day spinners can bat. Because the likes of Qadir, Bishan Bedi etc were the Coutney Walshs and Chris Martins of their times.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote milkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2009 at 6:29am
Mostly... MacGill was fairly ordinary and Murali is just funny to watch.
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Mostly... MacGill was fairly ordinary and Murali is just funny to watch.


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Murali and Walsh were the two funniest tail enders I've seen.  Murali will swat after most stuff while Walsh usually would hide the bat between his legs against spinners.
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Murali and Walsh were the two funniest tail enders I've seen.  Murali will swat after most stuff while Walsh usually would hide the bat between his legs against spinners.


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Sad that. I must say you have missed some real fun.
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Chris Martin, not the Coldplay lead singer, but the cricketer is probably up there for the worst ever player to bat in a test. He makes McGrath look like Tendulkar!!
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His country man Dany Morison gives him close company though. Dany is equally bad with commentary as well.
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