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Subject: 4319
Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:46pm

Originally posted by MP12

Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

Originally posted by fishcake14

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink

 

my team played against a man in a wheelchair once, apparently he was quite good



I didn't even think it was possible. Was he a batsman or bowler?
 
Specialist fielder all the way mate!! Wink
]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:46:34 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=172003#172003 Bowling Runup : Originally posted by Pietersen... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171911#171911 Author: MP12
Subject: 4319
Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:05am

Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

Originally posted by fishcake14

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink

 

my team played against a man in a wheelchair once, apparently he was quite good



I didn't even think it was possible. Was he a batsman or bowler?]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:05:25 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171911#171911 Bowling Runup : If wheelchair rugby is called... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171882#171882 Author: NZ_Fast
Subject: 4319
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:50pm

If wheelchair rugby is called Murderball, i wonder what wheelchair cricket would be called?]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:50:13 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171882#171882 Bowling Runup : Originally posted by fishcake14These... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171854#171854 Author: Pietersen Fan
Subject: 4319
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 9:34pm

Originally posted by fishcake14

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink
 
my team played against a man in a wheelchair once, apparently he was quite good
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:34:31 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171854#171854 Bowling Runup : Originally posted by fishcake14These... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171846#171846 Author: inswinger
Subject: 4319
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 9:02pm

Originally posted by fishcake14

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink


fun fun fun
that would be strange...

Originally posted by RightHandBat

Nah, it's not my chest, it's my waist area just above the hip.


is that abit uncomfortable to have it just over the hip....well aslong as ur not blocking off any off ur hip drive or pace its all good!
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:02:00 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171846#171846 Bowling Runup : These problems would never arise... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171536#171536 Author: fishcake14
Subject: 4319
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 10:37pm

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:37:22 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171536#171536 Bowling Runup : Nah, it's not my chest, it's... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171535#171535 Author: RightHandBat
Subject: 4319
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 10:31pm

Nah, it's not my chest, it's my waist area just above the hip.
]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:31:38 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171535#171535 Bowling Runup : youve coverd your elbow locking... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171485#171485 Author: inswinger
Subject: 4319
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 3:33pm

youve coverd your elbow locking into your torso. if that means your chest you are blocking off alot of potential pace that your not already using. i think uve sed your 6 foot 1. so thats where your getting all your bounce and from your front knee bracing but...your front arm should be pulled down out in front of you and end up with the forearm inline with your front foot at release.
and if posible you should be acheiving a good chest drive, that will really get your bowling arm powering through like a boomerang...but that wont be able to be done unless your front arm is down by your front leg. the chest drive is not essential if your getting lots of pace already. but you are blocking pff lots of pace is your front arm is up by your chest.
]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:33:52 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171485#171485 Bowling Runup : Well, the runup surely feels great.... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171262#171262 Author: RightHandBat
Subject: 4319
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 5:54am

Well, the runup surely feels great. I'm bowling a lot quicker then what I was a few weeks ago.

The runup is springy and I am gaining height as I'm coming into bowl, running in a straight line towards the pitch, getting the knee to brace and having the elbow lock into the torso.

It's also making me abit more deadly to face, getting more bounce then before at pace with seam movement both ways. It's great. I bowl a good length and it rises upto chest/shoulder height to a batsman. Picked up three wickets at training too.

Favourite was the one where one batsman was on strike and I kept bowling on a good length outside off and he was letting them go, so I moved to the off stump, he blocked it, then I moved my line just a fraction away and he went to block and he edged it. 1st or 2nd slip probably would've caught it. After that I decided to slip a shortish one in, he pulled it and it went right down mid wickets throat hehe.

Later on I got another wicket to another batsman bit of away swing, just a fraction to straighten down the line of offstump and he edged it behind.

Most important thing though is that everything felt good, the runup, the action, the knee bracing, elbow locking into the torso and the follow through is brilliant. Although the runup can be abit better I was told.
]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:54:43 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=171262#171262 Bowling Runup : you would think that but no. he... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=169144#169144 Author: inswinger
Subject: 4319
Posted: 28 December 2007 at 2:14pm

you would think that but no. he writes it in a very easy to read way...and its helped me soooooooooo much, im bowling alot faster im back in form and swinging it both ways more accuratley.
 
its a very useful and light hearted book which is invaluable.
 
but its not actually learning about what muscles contract and how they contract it just shows you what any fast bowler needs in his action to bowl faster, such as a full chest drive, hip snap, long and full rotation, straight lines and many more. tis good. and it talks all about every aspect of bowling, including mind set and everything...
]]> Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:14:37 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=169144#169144 Bowling Runup : That would be fairly heavy reading... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=169009#169009 Author: NZ_Fast
Subject: 4319
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 11:49pm

That would be fairly heavy reading wouldn't it? Learning about leavers and which muscles are contracting etc]]> Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:49:57 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=169009#169009 Bowling Runup : Originally posted by Smack Originally... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=169006#169006 Author: inswinger
Subject: 4319
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 10:11pm

Originally posted by Smack

Originally posted by inswinger

if your action is biomechanicly perfect (which it is extreemly unlikley to be) your run-up will account for only 10% of your pace.
How did you work that one out? Not to say that isn't correct, just never heard that before. 
 
oh i didn't work it out...haha
i read it in a book z. a book that teaches bowling biomechanics...
]]> Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:11:27 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=169006#169006 Bowling Runup : I'm only flat footed in my... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=168982#168982 Author: RightHandBat
Subject: 4319
Posted: 26 December 2007 at 7:21am

I'm only flat footed in my runup (was), but I reckon it's down to the fact where I was thinking about my runup and not running in like I usually do. I'm just running in like I normally run now with a slight forward lean now.

Basically, I'm running in naturally, I've just stopped thinking about it now.
]]> Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:21:19 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=168982#168982 Bowling Runup : Are you always flat footed when... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=168954#168954 Author: Smack
Subject: 4319
Posted: 25 December 2007 at 7:03pm

Are you always flat footed when you run or is it only in your bowling run up? Your coach is right leaning forward is quite important, if you watch Brett Lee from side on you will see he leans forward in his run up.
 
Originally posted by inswinger

if your action is biomechanicly perfect (which it is extreemly unlikley to be) your run-up will account for only 10% of your pace.
How did you work that one out? Not to say that isn't correct, just never heard that before.
 
 
 
]]> Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:03:20 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=168954#168954 Bowling Runup : well. think of your run up as... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=165105#165105 Author: inswinger
Subject: 4319
Posted: 25 November 2007 at 6:04pm

well. think of your run up as normal running. you need to be balanced and steady, comfortable and to be going faster you need to be on your toes, not nessicerily leaning forward but on your toes.
 
also
if your action is biomechanicly perfect (which it is extreemly unlikley to be) your run-up will account for only 10% of your pace.
 
so all you need is momentum to carry your through the crease/apply enough power to get you through your action.
 
also, not nessicerily for u but someone has a side-on action the run-up should be slower than for a front on bowler.
]]> Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:04:24 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=165105#165105 Bowling Runup : I certainly don't lean forward... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=165042#165042 Author: NZ_Fast
Subject: 4319
Posted: 25 November 2007 at 9:27am

I certainly don't lean forward in my run up (unless im bowling into a strong headwind) and it doesnt effect my pace. As long as your action is fine, that means as much momentum as possible is being transfered to the ball anyway.

You could always just try leaning forward in your run up...........
]]> Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:27:36 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=165042#165042 Bowling Runup : Cheers for that legspinner and... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=165022#165022 Author: RightHandBat
Subject: 4319
Posted: 25 November 2007 at 2:51am

Cheers for that legspinner and fishcake. My current runup length feels comfortable, but its just the flat footedness because this man said I'm not leaning forward as I'm running in and it's causing me to lose momentum.



Edited by RightHandBat - 25 November 2007 at 2:53am]]> Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:51:17 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=165022#165022 Bowling Runup : Hi, RightHandBat since you've... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=165004#165004 Author: legspinner102
Subject: 4319
Posted: 24 November 2007 at 6:50pm

Hi, RightHandBatSmile since you've helped me with my sons soon to be MRF hopefully, heres some advice that Dennis Lillee gave to some well known pace bowlers such as Brett Lee, for instance:

'Ifyou are struggling to find a regular rhythm, try this exercise: 
tointo an empty field with no obstacles nearby and from a marked point, 
doa full run-up with your eyes closed. Imagine you are an old steam 
enginelooking to build momentum. Walk two or thre paces, 
startto jog and gradually build up to about three quarter speed, 
thinkingof the sound and action of a steam train as you are running. 
Ihave used this method many many times, 
andit still works wonders in bringing out smoothness.' (1955)

And heres some other advice, but I don't think you'll need it:

'Beforeyou bowl your first ball, you must be mentally as well as physically setup. 
Makingbatsmen play is all important. 
Ifyou bowl it at or just o
utsideoff stump, there is a genuine chance that he'll nick it, 
giventhat he's so keen to feel bat on ball.'
]]> Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:50:47 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=165004#165004 Bowling Runup : Originally posted by RightHandBatMy... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=164999#164999 Author: fishcake14
Subject: 4319
Posted: 24 November 2007 at 11:59am

Originally posted by RightHandBat

My question is about the pace bowlers runup. I hear that it gets you most of your pace. A coach has advised me to change my runup because I'm running in flat footed and it's not getting me any momentum into the crease.

My bowling action is perfect, nothing wrong with it, but it's my runup that's making me lose momentum. How can I fix this?
 
You'll just have to experiment with differents lengths of run-up until you find something that you feel comfortable with and at the same time gives you maximum momentum when you hit the crease. It might need shortened - sometimes having it shorter can help you gain momentum, but it might not be that, so just experiment. Big%20smile
]]> Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:59:54 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=164999#164999 Bowling Runup : My question is about the pace... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=164990#164990 Author: RightHandBat
Subject: 4319
Posted: 24 November 2007 at 8:52am

My question is about the pace bowlers runup. I hear that it gets you most of your pace. A coach has advised me to change my runup because I'm running in flat footed and it's not getting me any momentum into the crease.

My bowling action is perfect, nothing wrong with it, but it's my runup that's making me lose momentum. How can I fix this?
]]> Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:52:13 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4319&PID=164990#164990