Cricket Forum | Cricket Discussion Forum | Cricket : Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Cricket Forum | Cricket Discussion Forum | Cricket : Twenty20 World Cup : Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) Copyright (c) 2006-2009 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 26 May 2013 10:36:17 +0000 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:33:50 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.71 360 www.cricketworld.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4096 Cricket Forum | Cricket Discussion Forum | Cricket http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_images/logo.png http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/ Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : I was supporting India today you... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157652#157652 Author: daisy77
Subject: 4096
Posted: 22 September 2007 at 9:33pm

I was supporting India today you know. It's not that I really like India or anything....I just don't like the aussies so I was supporting India. However, I want Pak to win the competition. ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:33:50 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157652#157652 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by daisy77 We'll... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157640#157640 Author: BackFoot Master
Subject: 4096
Posted: 22 September 2007 at 8:59pm

Originally posted by daisy77

We'll just have to wait and see...we are on opposite sides of the fence BFM!

 
I am the winner of the battle daisy. Better luck next time. SO are you supporting india in the finals.
]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:59:57 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157640#157640 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by BackFoot... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157633#157633 Author: daisy77
Subject: 4096
Posted: 22 September 2007 at 8:50pm

Originally posted by BackFoot Master

Originally posted by daisy77

Yeah they may have won the group but not the competition. I am depending on Pak to win!
 
India may have something different to say about that.
We'll just have to wait and see...we are on opposite sides of the fence BFM!
]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:50:56 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157633#157633 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Those Indian seamers are deadly... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157542#157542 Author: spin wizard
Subject: 4096
Posted: 22 September 2007 at 12:26am

Those Indian seamers are deadly in swingy conditions and Harbhajan is bowling really well. Full right under the bat - very hard to clear the ropes!]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:26:39 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157542#157542 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by daisy77Yeah... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157513#157513 Author: BackFoot Master
Subject: 4096
Posted: 21 September 2007 at 6:53pm

Originally posted by daisy77

Yeah they may have won the group but not the competition. I am depending on Pak to win!
 
India may have something different to say about that.
]]> Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:53:42 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157513#157513 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by BackFoot... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157425#157425 Author: daisy77
Subject: 4096
Posted: 21 September 2007 at 12:51am

Originally posted by BackFoot Master

Heh heh, Good work india.
India has won the group.
Great thinking be using 3 spinners first up in the bowl out.
Yeah they may have won the group but not the competition. I am depending on Pak to win!Wink They are just so unpredictable!
]]> Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:51:58 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157425#157425 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Oh I don't blame him...he's... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157424#157424 Author: daisy77
Subject: 4096
Posted: 21 September 2007 at 12:50am

Oh I don't blame him...he's just venting his anger and frustration..I do that on a few occassions where the windies are concerned! . ]]> Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:50:16 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157424#157424 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by zuhair_abbasiIndia... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157308#157308 Author: Clobber
Subject: 4096
Posted: 19 September 2007 at 9:54pm

Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

India just dont seem to have a T20 type of a team!! They lack genuine all rounders and big hitters with the exception of Dhoni


yet again I feel somehow compelled to drag up another of zuhair's quotes - although I am sure by now most people see his anti-India posting for what it really is
]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:54:39 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157308#157308 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Yep , Cape Town. http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157221#157221 Author: Sledger
Subject: 4096
Posted: 19 September 2007 at 6:10am

 Yep , Cape Town. ]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:10:03 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157221#157221 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Thanks you put me straight ... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157196#157196 Author: kamleshmistry
Subject: 4096
Posted: 18 September 2007 at 9:52pm

Thanks

you put me straight

u in SA?
]]> Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:52:12 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=157196#157196 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by kamleshmistryDont... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156958#156958 Author: Sledger
Subject: 4096
Posted: 17 September 2007 at 7:22am

Originally posted by kamleshmistry

Dont you think its unfair for india, that they hadto play their cricket in Durbin where the weather is known to be bad...


  You are obviously ignorant in matters South African.  Firstly , India have a hugeadvantage from playing all their matches in Durban for the simplereason that practically all Indians living in SA live in that region.
    The support they receive is terrific and even whenthey play South Africa they can guarantee at least half of the crowdwill be supporting them.  If anything , Pakistan could complain ofIndia's partisan followers and ask for a neutral venue !

    Secondly the weather in Durban is not known to bebad!  Fact is , this early in the season , Durban generally hassuperb weather with little rain. Weatherwise, Cape Town is undoubtablythe worst off of all provinces within the republic at this time of year.
]]> Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:22:53 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156958#156958 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : This match also proves that no... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156955#156955 Author: shan
Subject: 4096
Posted: 17 September 2007 at 7:01am

This match also proves that no matter what version of cricket is being played, it's not necessarily big hits and slogs that make the game most entertaining, it can be some great pieces of bowling as well. Game might be low scoring, yet it can be the most entertaining and absorbing for the cricket fans.

]]> Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:01:17 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156955#156955 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by BackFoot... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156950#156950 Author: shan
Subject: 4096
Posted: 17 September 2007 at 6:50am

Originally posted by BackFoot Master

Originally posted by JP

We didn't think it carried.
Hey, JP me and you are cool guys and no Offence but i seen Dhoni taken the catch of Butt on 2 runs very very cleanly, I don't think my tv shows any clearer than any of you guys but Butt was 100% out and i blame the umpire.
 
 
 
You can't be that sure. If you see the replay from the camera behind the keeper, it doesn't appear to be a clean catch. I don't know how can you be so sure.
I just cann't agree more with Kalmesh who is really aggrieved that all Indian matches were set in Durbin. India has got support of over 1 billion people, much much bigger than Scotland or Pakistan, so they deserved better place than the two, who have also played all their matches in Durbin, if I am not wrong.
 
 
 
It was one hell of a match and I've enjoyed every bit of it and I hope all of us did, so better stop crying about Durbin's bad weather and points and look forward to some really fast and furious cricket ahead. Cheers!
]]> Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:50:03 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156950#156950 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : yeah !!!! They will be happy !!! anyway... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156827#156827 Author: kamleshmistry
Subject: 4096
Posted: 15 September 2007 at 10:22pm

yeah !!!! They will be happy !!!

anyway im happy now !!! doesn't work like the world cup. No team carries through points to the next round. Hence it will be a clean slate !!!!! suits me fine !!!!

]]> Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:22:54 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156827#156827 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by kamleshmistryand... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156769#156769 Author: Clobber
Subject: 4096
Posted: 15 September 2007 at 9:30am

Originally posted by kamleshmistry

and its still not fair that they didn't play there match and didn't get a chance to pickup 2 points like the rest of them.

All of India matches are in Durban, hence they are more likely to hit rain hit matches and less likely to win the tournament. I'm not saying its a conspiracy, but its unfair to play all the matches on the same ground.


So instead they can finish a match at 9pm then go for a 4 hour flight to another ground ready to play their next match the following morning? Players will be thrilled you aren't an administrator.
]]> Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:30:17 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156769#156769 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : what a match, the best so far... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156768#156768 Author: green plane
Subject: 4096
Posted: 15 September 2007 at 8:32am

what a match, the best so far in this tournament. before going to sudden death situation (bowl out) I thought that both team get 1 point each because if u look in football or hockey penalty kicks or shots introduced only in semis or final not in group matches.
Indian did great job in that situation, I feel that pakistan not take it seriously just see how arafat and umar missed the stump, both have a good weapon(yorker).
Utthapa played superb cricket. Shewag still in bad form, Pathan is ok not in his full form but better than past. What happen to agarkar, he is giving so many runs these days.
Asif bowled brilliantly, Tanvir was impressive, Misbah also very good, he gave the answer to critics. Pakistan should drop salman butt in next matches , I dont think he is the good option in 20/2o match.  
]]> Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:32:07 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156768#156768 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : yeah, i agree with that, but 3rd... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156763#156763 Author: kamleshmistry
Subject: 4096
Posted: 15 September 2007 at 6:53am

yeah, i agree with that, but 3rd umpire should only be used on extreme important occasions. especially on boundary decisions. think players need to be more honest.... ]]> Sat, 15 Sep 2007 06:53:12 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156763#156763 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : We don't have all day though... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156757#156757 Author: bondy
Subject: 4096
Posted: 15 September 2007 at 2:34am

We don't have all day though mate, there has to be some room for human judgment/error in sport!]]> Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:34:21 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156757#156757 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by JPWe didn't... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156752#156752 Author: BackFoot Master
Subject: 4096
Posted: 15 September 2007 at 1:13am

Originally posted by JP

We didn't think it carried.
Hey, JP me and you are cool guys and no Offence but i seen Dhoni taken the catch of Butt on 2 runs very very cleanly, I don't think my tv shows any clearer than any of you guys but Butt was 100% out and i blame the umpire.
They did it for KP in the test match, why can't they do it today.
 
Originally posted by kamleshmistry

        lbw are not conclusive, so u cant refer to third umpire, but a catch is either out or not out and is conclusive and therefore if an umpire is unsure, he should call for the third umpire
 
Dead right matey, I couldn't of agree more. Umpires should call for the 3rd umpire if they are unsure, same thing with run outs- they are unsure and call they call for the 3rd umpire.
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by BackFoot Master - 15 September 2007 at 1:13am]]> Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:13:06 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156752#156752 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : and its still not fair that they... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156737#156737 Author: kamleshmistry
Subject: 4096
Posted: 15 September 2007 at 12:11am

and its still not fair that they didn't play there match and didn't get a chance to pickup 2 points like the rest of them.

All of India matches are in Durban, hence they are more likely to hit rain hit matches and less likely to win the tournament. I'm not saying its a conspiracy, but its unfair to play all the matches on the same ground.
]]> Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:11:48 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156737#156737 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by spin wizardYes,... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156734#156734 Author: The Tyke
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 11:30pm

Originally posted by spin wizard

Yes, about Tanvir, he will deceive man a bit with reaction time as he releases before most bowlers would and he looks pretty sharp off the wicket. Weird action but he will surprise man like Malinga!
 
I'd say he's more like Adams for surprising people rather than Malinga.
Malinga will always surprise people because he releases all balls in the same way. When he bowls bouncers or yorkers he always uses the same slingy action making him hard to pick.
 
Tanvir has a slightly different action for variations, When he bowled a bouncer to Pathan, his hand had to come much further over because he usually releases it early.
This will become easy to pick over time. And when he's found out then batsmen will target him and use the angle he bowls to hit into the leg side.
]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:30:51 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156734#156734 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Yes, about Tanvir, he will deceive... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156729#156729 Author: spin wizard
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 11:23pm

Yes, about Tanvir, he will deceive man a bit with reaction time as he releases before most bowlers would and he looks pretty sharp off the wicket. Weird action but he will surprise man like Malinga!]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:23:50 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156729#156729 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by kamleshmistryTwenty20... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156727#156727 Author: Clobber
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 11:19pm

Originally posted by kamleshmistry

Twenty20 comment

hello

Dont you think its unfair for india, that they had to play their cricket in Durbin where the weather is known to be bad. The rain stopped them playing against Scotland, and as a result they lost out on 2 points for the next round. Surely the match should have been re-scheduled because of the importance of the 2 point for the next round. And then it was not fair that they didn't even get 2 points for beating Pakistan in a bowl out. Whats the point of having the bowl out. There was no purpose for. India finished top of the table, hence playing better then Pakistan, yet Pakistan go through with 2 point. This is a bit of a farce and common sense should be used.

Thanks

Kamlesh Mistry


As we have already said in the thread, the competition lasts 2 weeks, when exactly do you think they can reschedule matches for? Also, if you are tempted to start any conspiracy theory crap about being sent to Durban my best advice is this - don't.
]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:19:08 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156727#156727 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : I thought that ball with Butt... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156724#156724 Author: spin wizard
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 11:11pm

I thought that ball with Butt carried to Dhoni! It wasn't sure from the behind camera but when they showed it from the first camera angle, i saw it go straight in Dhonis hand. But again, the eyes can play tricks on us. Why didn't they call the 3rd umpire though? They always do it for balls that appear to touch the rope.
 
Anyways, on another note, it was a great game! Thanks to the groundsman and mother nature for producing a wicket that made the ball move around and it was great watching the ball swing, beat bat, make them miss the balls and to see some balls flying to the boundary. I want to see more of those pitches.
 
Asif's spell was terrific and he's a very clever bowler and that's why I say he's the best young bowler on the international scene and soon to be the best!
]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:11:35 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156724#156724 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : a catch is important, especially... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156723#156723 Author: kamleshmistry
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 11:08pm

a catch is important, especially if he caught it, which i think he did. and after kevin peterson in the tests, where he saw it on the screen and walked back to the crease after being given out. lbw are not conclusive, so u cant refer to third umpire, but a catch is either out or not out and is conclusive and therefore if an umpire is unsure, he should call for the third umpire.

]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:08:00 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156723#156723 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : They didn't call for the... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156721#156721 Author: -JP-
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 11:02pm

They didn't call for the third umpire, because they were satisfied that he hadn't caught it cleanly.

You can't call for a third umpire to decide lbw decisions, either.
]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:02:40 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156721#156721 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : yeah why didn't the umpires... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156717#156717 Author: kamleshmistry
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 10:41pm

yeah why didn't the umpires call for the third umpire, as Dhoni catch seem to be above board. And why dont they ever call for third umpire decision when a ball has edged a bat or not, as the umpire can not always be sure. Like tendulkars dismissal against england in the last one dayer which was crucial. Put replays show he did not hit it. ]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:41:49 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156717#156717 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Originally posted by kamleshmistryTwenty20... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156715#156715 Author: The Tyke
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 10:37pm

Originally posted by kamleshmistry

Twenty20 comment

hello

Dont you think its unfair for india, that they had to play their cricket in Durbin where the weather is known to be bad. The rain stopped them playing against Scotland, and as a result they lost out on 2 points for the next round. Surely the match should have been re-scheduled because of the importance of the 2 point for the next round. And then it was not fair that they didn't even get 2 points for beating Pakistan in a bowl out. Whats the point of having the bowl out. There was no purpose for. India finished top of the table, hence playing better then Pakistan, yet Pakistan go through with 2 point. This is a bit of a farce and common sense should be used.

Thanks

Kamlesh Mistry
 
1. Points are not carried through to the next stage, who or what gave you that idea?
2. They finished top of the group after beating Pakistan, their biggest rivals. Will they mind about points now after that? I think not.
]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:37:54 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156715#156715 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : We didn't think it carried.Well... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156714#156714 Author: -JP-
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 10:36pm

We didn't think it carried.

Well done to both sets of players, officials, and if I'm told correctly, some media outlets around the world, who were convinced the game was ended with the scores level.

It seems no-one can be bothered to read the rules these days.

]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:36:01 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156714#156714 Group D (Pakistan, India, Scotland) : Butt was caught behind by Dhoni... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156712#156712 Author: BackFoot Master
Subject: 4096
Posted: 14 September 2007 at 10:13pm

Butt was caught behind by Dhoni on 2 runs and the umpires didn't call the 3rd umpire but they always waste 20 seconds on a 3rd umpire reply to see if the ball has gone for 4 or 3 runs, so runs more important than wickets.
 
 
]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:13:35 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4096&PID=156712#156712