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Shane Warnabee 
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 Topic: Alistair CookPosted: 14 June 2007 at 11:33am |
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At just 22 this young man has already scored 6 centuries
just 1 short of equallying the record of 7 centuries made by don bradman, tendulkar and a few others. He is also tipped to later be England's future captain and he has scored tons against many good countries including australia. I'm not sure if there is a thread already made about this fine player, but if there isn't i'm sure this topic will bring about an interesting discussion. What are your view on this great player and do you think he has the potential to become one of the best batsmen in cricket? |
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Clobber
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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 11:41am |
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Firstly I hope you mean great as in "very good" as opposed to truly great - far too early for that sort of thing.
He's a well organised player that is comfortable with his game which is a fine attribute in one so young. Making hundreds in India and Australia show that he has done more than just pick off weak attacks and he should only get better too which is excellent news for England. Edited by Clobber - 14 June 2007 at 1:20pm |
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bondy
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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 12:54pm |
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Precisely. If he can perform where and when it counts then he's got the makings necessary to be 'great'. He now needs a decent opening partner. Strauss needs to be dropped. He needs to earn his spot back into the team, as too Harmison. With the competition brewing amongst the England camp the Ashes could be heading home in 2009. |
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Good one Graham!
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Sledger
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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 2:08pm |
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I'm a big fan of the lad , he knows his own game so well.
Wonderful temperament too and won't get carried away by all the guff in
the tabloids.
I'd like to see him develop a wider range of shots - straight and through a conventional midon/midoff , bu then he'd be the next Lara! In the meantime I'll settle for much of the same as we're seeing , he could break the record runs scored and number of hundreds for an Englishman in test cricket. I'd play him in the one dayers too! |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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dips_december
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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 2:24pm |
Yes I agree with you. he has been quite decent in the two ODI's he has played for England so far. Looks a eciting new porspect. Hope he does not fade away. All the good luck and wishes to you Alastair. |
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Sledger
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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 2:42pm |
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His slowness across the ground is holding him back , but England need someone who can bat for 40 overs.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 5:01pm |
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Yeah, i've always wondered why he wasn't in the one dayers i'm guessing its because he plays too slowly,
but all the same if dravid can get it why not he? True its too early to compare him with dravid but at the rate he's playing i'm sure he should be given a try. I too am a big fan of this lad and i hope he can continue with his good work. Yeah Clobber by saying truly great i actually mean 'pretty good' but has the potential to be a truly great batsmen. |
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samhache
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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 10:40pm |
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In Englands case steady is good and I agree he should play one dayers. Would he open for England though? Or play down lower in the order...
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The Tyke
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Posted: 14 June 2007 at 11:06pm |
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The thing I like about Cook is his relaxed nature at the crease. I've seen very few younger players who have this quality. He also gives confidence to whoever he's batting with at the time because of this. He's the anchor and his partner has the freedom to attack and play more risky shots.
I think he'd make a good one day player.
ODI's aren't just about scoring runs quickly. They're also about scoring them efficiently, which is what Cook does. He picks the gaps for the 1's and 2's and puts bad balls away to the boundary. He doesn't play loads of stupid shots which can get you out.
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Minn hugur er minn sverð (My mind is my sword)
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Sledger
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 7:03am |
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Cook can do what Gary Kirsten did for SA - solidity at the top of the
order and the rest bat around him. Gary did it in both forms of the
game too and I see no reason why Alistair can't do the same.
His scoring rate isn't bad either , I'd say he's on a par with both Bell and Strauss and they've played plenty of one day cricket. Don't be surprised if he gets another ton at the Riverside..... |
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shan
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 8:58am |
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I've always admired Cook's technique, but it's not only his technique that makes him a birhgt prospect to become a great of future, it's his rock solid and unbeaten temprament that you won't find in many youngsters, at the early stage of their career. Another yougster Stuart Broad, whom I admire, isn't in news for a while now. Or it may be I who's not in touch with cricket regularly these day.
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"Excellence is something we can reach for; perfection is God's business."
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Clobber
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 9:30am |
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Broad is just making his way back from an injury
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 9:31am |
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Broad's been injured Shan , but is on his way back.
Cook's calmness is a definite plus - he looks totally unflustered at the crease , even when he's been beaten all ends up by a snorter! |
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bondy
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 10:11am |
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I wouldn't risk him in the one-dayers, incase he gets injured
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Good one Graham!
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shan
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 11:35am |
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Thank you Clobs and Sledge for the info. |
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 1:09pm |
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another calm youngster that comes to my mind is ravi bopara ad i remember how calm he was when he played
that almost match winning innings for england during the world cup. Must've been drunk i suppose! |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 4:02pm |
Anyways, Cook has a very fine temparament indeed. Doesn't get too carried away and that's what needed in a test player. He's pretty tall too so the new ball on a steepling pitch shouldn't trouble him as much as others.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 4:09pm |
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Whats his height by the way?
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spin wizard
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 7:12pm |
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I don't know but he looks pretty tall on TV.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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tonks007
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Posted: 16 June 2007 at 5:55am |
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He is six foot 2 inches tall.
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bondy
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Posted: 16 June 2007 at 6:25am |
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My height, 6.2. Good height too. Front or back foot no problem.
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Good one Graham!
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venom2011
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Posted: 16 June 2007 at 12:29pm |
Yeah good comparison. Similar types of players early in their careers. Gary went on to adapt and be more aggressive in certain situations when he hit his late 20s though... which made him a shoe-in for the ODI format. I think Cook should just focus on test cricket for now...and gradually start working on increasing his shot selection, fielding and run rate etc. |
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Posted: 23 June 2007 at 10:11pm |
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i am not a big fan off his but i think he is a great player lucky at times though !!
he is great off his legs and a great fielder |
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Posted: 26 June 2007 at 6:42am |
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He's a decent catcher lad , across the ground he's
pedestrian! I hope he works on that , someone so young and lithe
just shouldn't be that slow!
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Posted: 05 August 2007 at 2:51pm |
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Alister Cook will be the best opener world in a few years time. However I notice he is a bit of an LBW candidate which is strange because he plays very late and i really good of his pads. Hopefully he can sought this out.
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Posted: 05 August 2007 at 3:06pm |
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i am not wat you would call a fan off his but i have to admit he is a good batsman but i dont tihnk he should play in ODI's they need batsman who can score more quick yes i no he is slow and can stay there for a while but so can some other players
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TCA123
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Posted: 06 August 2007 at 7:29pm |
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I think Cook has the potential to be the best opener in the world, very soon. I do believe he will achieve that acolade eventually. He has so much talent, watching him play shots off his pads is a great sight, he seems to do it almost in boredem, it's that easy to him.
In ODIs, I'm undecided. I'm sure he could do it, but I see abit of Michael Vaughan situation here, would he ever replicate Test form in ODI cricket?
I do think he should be left alone for now to develop with Essex as an ODI player, let him gain some experience with Essex, who are a good One day team, then see if he merits selection later down the line.
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Posted: 07 August 2007 at 10:12am |
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Two areas I where Cook can improve . Firstly his favourite
scoring areas are through the onside and on occasion he battles to
clear his front pad - hence the lbw plaguing him at the moment.
Secondly , for a youngster , he looks so laboured in the outfield ! A boxing trainer or some such animal could surely help him to be less donkeylike when hunting down the ball! Having said that though , there's something about the lad and if he stays fit and healthy he'll break a few English records , if not world records . |
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TCA123
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Posted: 07 August 2007 at 12:55pm |
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I'm sure he'll break records. Sledger about his fielding though, he's definately a good short leg. Ian Bell and Alastair Cook for me fill me with some hope under the lid that they may actually catch something. I think he needs to play more domestic one day games first before England.
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Posted: 07 August 2007 at 2:40pm |
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Fine reflexes TCA , no doubt about that , but he's the legs of a
geriatric! I bet he didn't break any sprinting records at school!
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