Asia Cup and Bangladesh Tri Series

Originally posted by kirankri So do you believe it is non-sportive to lose a match if you know that you get a weaker opposition in the finals. Image if a similar situation arises in the WC? Would there be any teams which would mind doing it?   I remember Aus and SA manipulating in some of the tournaments in early 2000's or late 90's (I don't remember the tournaments or the exact matches). Infact SA was famous for such (mis)calculations. Isn't it?   Not that other teams were having captains who were saints. But those were the only two teams in that era who use to land in such a situation.

I reckon India would rather another game against Pakistan in preparation for the Asia Cup than play, and thrash, Bangladesh twice.

Bear in mind how nuts their fans went when Bangladesh beat them in the World Cup. They won't want a repeat of that, and beside, even if India play badly, Bangladesh are so poor at the moment, that they simply won't win.

I remember Fleming specifically manipulated the outcome of a RR within a match only to yield benefits for the black-caps. It was brought up post-match in terms of questioning and raised eye-brows, but never a big issue. Why was this? Because NZ are seen as a sportive nation and thus this behaviour went unnoticed? Or because of lack of severity? Was it really a big deal?

Most cricket teams would engage in this type of behaviour if it meant it benefited their team. I.e. taking advantage of a tournament structure. It's part of the game in my opinion, strategic and should not been seen as 'wrong' unless a team us purposely throwing a match - but that's a different argument altogether.

interesting comments, as i said there are different ways to look at it. i think last year, shoaib malik in a domestic competition delibrately lost a game to make sure the other team makes it to the semis or something like that, and he was actually fined and warned for such an act (as far as i know, please correct me if i'm wrong PAK members), that certainly means different nations look at it differently, perhaps.

Edited by sam_ahmed - 11 June 2008 at 6:27pm

well this is interesting, the fact that PAK lost by 140 runs means that even if BAN wins today by 1 run they actually go through to the finals, well this can get really humiliating for PAK if it happens, however if PAK do go through, then one good performance and they can trun out to be the winners.

Ha ha ha ....I now know the correct meaning of the word "optimist". Also BD have to win by around 218 runs to eliminate India from the tournament.

Edited by kirankri - 12 June 2008 at 9:07am

They won't win. End of.

Asif missed the oppurtunity !!!

they will rise when time will pas and india has played very well in there first game. i cant understand what lawson is doing about feilding and bowling 

yes off course pakistan doesn't need any more drug addict.now i am happy with their performance if they play with such confidence and team work they can do better in asia cup

Though we would have liked to see a different result in the final, not a sort of performance which should cause us worries. Chasing a score of 310+ in the final and falling short by 25 runs with 10 balls to spare doesn't worry me too much. It is an young team which would learn from such experiences and it is still in the process of getting the right combination. I don't think Praveen Kumar and Yousuf Pathan would be in the team for long and I would like to see them trying out Ghoni and Abhishek Nayar soon.

Kumar wont make in the team when Zaheer and Sreesnath are back. Irfan Pathan aint performing either. Chawla has yet to go a long way before replacing Harbhajan I think.

Chawla is a massive talent, but it is going to be a good 2 years before he really begins to shine i believe.

How can you select Gony or however it is spelled. 2020 form does not mean you have any sort of form in any other version of the game, Y Pathan is an example of this.

I guess he spells it without an 'h'. But I dont find a place for Goni in the presence of Zahher. even Balaji is fit and he is far better than Goni.