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Mikey
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Topic: Australia in Sri LankaPosted: 26 July 2011 at 9:43am |
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Australia will be touring Sri Lanka shortly for the first time since 2004.
The tour will include 2 T20I's, 5 ODIs and 3 tests. The following squad was selected for Australia: Shane Watson, Phillip Hughes, Ricky Ponting, Michael Clarke (capt), Michael Hussey, Usman Khawaja, Shaun Marsh, Brad Haddin (wk), Mitchell Johnson, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle, Trent Copeland, James Pattinson, Nathan Lyon, Michael Beer The notable exclusion is Steven Smith. The selectors have finally realised that picking a player as a specialist fielder will not work - his bowling nor his batting are adequate for test selection. His next test will probably be as a specialist batsman at some stage in the future if he is ever to play tests for Australia. Copeland and Pattinson are the rookie fast bowlers that have been selected, Copeland has been particularly good in first class cricket, with Australia having a lot of fast bowling options to pick from, he was the one that was given the nod. Pattinson is a young bolter and there are some big expectations on him too. His brother played for England a couple of years ago, but James is born in Australia and has played all his cricket here. Nathan Lyon, the South Australia off break bowler has been strangely selected, just as Michael Beer and this series will probably ruin both of them... no surprises there. Hauritz is still injured and Krejza is still rubbish. Harris is back and Bollinger has not been picked! But it looks a good decision, Dougie really struggles to maintain his intensity, while Harris is probably one of the fastest bowlers in the world at the moment. Tim Paine has not been picked at all, but we do see Marsh and Khawaja included, one of the will play. While Hughes will open, he has been in fantastic form and hopefully he can translate his talent into runs. I won't write the kid off just yet! Warner is also backing off from a double ton in a first class game vs Zim A and is proving his credentials in the longer form - Hughes will have competition that's for sure. All in all, both teams are struggling for form in the longer format. SL will have home advantage and even though they do have better spin talent, none of the options really match Murali. Should be a decent series. |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 26 July 2011 at 7:17pm |
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I must say I'm looking forward to this series, will be interesting to watch the new Aussie bowlers, pacers as well as spinners and I hope they do well.
I'd fancy Australia to win both the test and ODI series simply because SLN are heavily dependent of Sanga and Mahela while Australia have much better batsmen, and Srilanka's bowling is no better either even in home conditions. |
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Posted: 27 July 2011 at 6:47am |
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I still make the Lankans favourites at home Sam , I think Australia will battle to bowl them out. The Aussie selectors had to make changes after the stick they took after the Ashes annihilation , but the new guys don't look world beaters do they? It could be a long haul before we see Australia winning consistently again.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 27 July 2011 at 8:18am |
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And the player they tipped to be the next big thing has been dropped - Steven Smith. I am not a fan of his and for a change they have made a good decision. Who will take the number six spot? Will it be Khwaja or Marsh? I have not seen much of Khwaja. I think it will be a close series and much will depend on Punter and Clarke
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Posted: 27 July 2011 at 9:17am |
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Conditions will be pretty uncomfortable won't they ? I'd have thought July/August in Sri Lanka would be murderously hot and humid ! If so , it'll be a gruelling tour for the Aussies.
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Mikey
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Posted: 27 July 2011 at 2:58pm |
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Australia is a bloody hot country Sledger, you don't see the Aussie players complain too much about the heat - no more than the SL players will. I expect Watson to bat well, he did very well in India last time and has always done well in IPL, so he doesn't mind the subcontinental conditions. Watson, Ponting, Clarke, Haddin (good player of spin) and Hussey looks decent and experienced... hoping they can all click. While Hughes has been in good form. I think Marsh will play ahead of Khawaja, despite the latter having made his debut already. Marsh is definitely a better player of spin and when he's fit he's a treat to watch. Having Harris fit and back in the side is a huge bonus and I think him and Siddle could be formidable on their day. From what I understand, Copeland is in the McGrath model, but has a more organised technique than Peter George. Again, the selectors have to stick to one player and give them a decent shot. They keep trialling players for half a series and expect results and that's unfair. Best example is James Anderson, showed talent at the start of his career as a young guy, they gave him a decent run, he failed a bit... then he got dropped... came back in the side and now he's a world class bowler.
They need to nurture the players a bit better - Nielsen , the coach, has to go. Clearly he's been more of a hinderance than an asset and the change of captaincy will hopefully bring about a better transition to a new looking side. |
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Posted: 27 July 2011 at 5:55pm |
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Home conditions are an advantage but honestly Sri lanka don't have too many people whom Australia will worry about Sledge, there is no Murali, there in no Malinga in tests, the batting is all about Mahela and Sanga and to an extent Dilshan, there is nothing in the lankan team that would worry the Aussies too much.
As pointed out by Mikey, the Aussie batting and pace bowling still appear to be pretty good and I'd fancy Australia to beat the Lankans. It's the monsoon season so expect some rains and some time lost and cloudy conditions in Sri lanka, but then they play every year during this season! |
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Posted: 28 July 2011 at 7:10am |
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Both teams going through the transition phase. Must say the outset of
the Sri Lankan bowling attack looks totally toothless without Malinga or
Murali. They yet to win their 1st test since Murali's retirement. But
having said that in Randhiv, Herath and Mendis their spin repository
good enough to give the Oz's a few problems in home conditions.
The Aussies too still in transition but nevertheless looks very capable of nicking the series. Not sure of their bowling potency either ,on such conditions, where a blow hot blow cold M Johnson in charge of leading the attack. The spin attack is relatively new and inexperienced which , though not ideal, could give them an element of surprise ie. if they any good. |
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Posted: 06 August 2011 at 5:19pm |
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very ordinary performance by Australia in the first T20 game, they have had no answers to the srilankan spin and were blown away by Dilshan in the first innings.
Hopefully we will see much better performances in the ODI's and tests with the likes of Clarke, Ponting and Hussey featuring. There is still another t20 game though. |
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Posted: 08 August 2011 at 6:42am |
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Not such a great start for the Aussies was it ? It was only a T20 , but Dilshan sent a message - the Aussie attack didn't worry him at all.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 August 2011 at 7:13am |
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Saw the match - Cameron White had no idea what to do with the field. It could be a long hard tour for the Ausseis
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Posted: 08 August 2011 at 1:23pm |
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Cameron White just hasn't fulfilled his early promise - a useful legspinner who now can't hit the cut bit and a big hitting batsman who misses more than he hits. The Aussies need to watch out , Zimbabwe have them in their sights !
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Posted: 08 August 2011 at 5:20pm |
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Aussies do not have an answer to Lanka's spinners here, I'm watching the match and after such a great start given by Watson the Aussies are all over the place 123/6 after 17 overs, can they pull this off???? 35 needed off 18.
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Posted: 08 August 2011 at 5:42pm |
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... and Australia lose again, what a turn around in this game! can Australia turn it around in the ODI's? they remain the No.1 ODI team in the world... but for how long?
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Posted: 09 August 2011 at 12:49am |
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Sledger, Milky is right, the heat won't worry the Aussies but the rest of your post is correct. As much as I think Sri Lanka relies heavily on Dilshan, Jayawardena, Sangakkara and now no real world beating bowler that Murali is out, I still think they will pose problems to the Australians due to the fact that they are unsettled. If they get Watson early, it could be a very easy tour because for sometime now, he seems their only batsman likely to get runs, along with Hussey.
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Posted: 09 August 2011 at 10:41am |
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My word fellas That David Warner relay catch! Unbelievably Breathtaking!! Matthews must have thrown it at least 20 metres against inertia to get it to Mahela. That for me was the turning point of the match. It was a Big moment in the game and the simple inconceivability of that bit seemed to knock the wind out of them Aussies.
The Aussies continue their acclimatization of the conditions, need to hurry up with that as we already into the ODI's. Like any other team should take them some time but I do expect the Aussies to get more at ease as the tour prolongs. Essentially by the time the Tests begins. |
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Mikey
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Posted: 09 August 2011 at 12:36pm |
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Mendis tends to do that when he's new to a set of batsmen. After the same batsman has played him a couple of time he gets found out. I've seen him bamboozle Dravid the first time Dravid played him, but I doubt the same would happen again.
Nonetheless, Australia were cruising until that catch - big breakthrough for SL. The ODIs will be closer and I expect the Australians to win with Ponting , Clarke and Hussey back. I suspect Smith will not play for Australia for a while (nor should White, who isn't selected anyway) and I don't think Johnson should be playing any T20 at all. Nannes should have been picked. |
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Posted: 09 August 2011 at 1:06pm |
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I'm in favor of most of Mikey's suggestions over there. Steve Smith has no business coming ahead of Haddin. Surprising that White was selected captain ahead of ODI Vice-Captain Shane Watson. The likes of Bollinger, Nannes, Tait could be there ahead of Johnson. Notably cos this Aussies side bats till No.11 . Lee got to be the best No.11 I've seen in a long long time.
Yes in Ponting , Clarke and Hussey they've got much better reinforcements in the middle order compared to the present brittle order. |
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Posted: 09 August 2011 at 2:25pm |
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Bollinger and Nannes have to be 2 of the best T20 bowlers in the world. Australia actually have a fantastic T20 side, yet they keep playing the wrong team. Mike Hussey must play, although it's fair enough he was rested. When you think about the real talent Australia produces in T20, then you must wonder why they lost this series and what went wrong. In limited overs cricket, Australia is still a very good side. It's much easier to hide confidence and consistency issues in that form of the game.
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Posted: 10 August 2011 at 4:27pm |
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I didn't think Johnson should be playing any T20, but his performance in this ODI has been phenomenal. Johnson has blowed apart the SL line up with a 6 for, the 4th best figures by an Australian! Great , easy win for the Aussies. Watson again looked sublime, while Ponting and Clarke in the middle order is A LOT better than Marsh and White as we saw in the T20 matches. Both are very decent players of spin, particularly Clarke, and their good form should hopefully put Australia in good stead for the tests. Watson, Hussey, Clarke and Ponting, if they all keep up their form will make it a tough series for SL. Johnson is excellent in subcontinental conditions and I think if the ball grips, then even the mediocre Aussie spinners will fair well in this series. Doherty didn't look too bad in this match, but certainly would have preferred Krejza for the tests with his big revs on the ball - even though I don't rate the guy.
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But the main thing is Australia always seems to struggle against any decent spinner. |
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Posted: 10 August 2011 at 6:02pm |
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Very good performance by Australia and as expected the return of Clarke, Ponting and Hussey has made a big difference to the side. Very happy for the Aussies, top performance by Johnson, he is such an unpredictable cricketer. The series has certainly come alive now.
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 5:57am |
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That was rather one sided and again confirms what I've always thought - one dayers just can't compete with test cricket.
The return of Ponting and Clarke has solidified what was a very flakey batting line up in those T20's , but let's be brutally honest , the bowling was dross ! |
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 6:42am |
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You're right Sledger - Australia is number 1 in ODIs and 5 in tests. Big difference there...
... Lacking the confidence and without a settled side it's hard to win tests. They need to stick to a combination of 12 or 13 players. How many fast bowlers and spinners have they now trialled? They are looking for a quick fix solution, but that's not the best way to do things... Australia has the talent there, perhaps no Shane Warne, but then again South Africa have been winning tests and they use Harris. |
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 6:46am |
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The sooner Australia find some new selectors who have a plan , the better off they'll be.
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Tahir could well have finished Harris's test career - we'll see soon enough when Australia get here. |
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 6:49am |
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Tahir is a journeyman cricketer, I doubt he'll show the commitment to play long-term. That's my gut feeling anyway.
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He's played for a lot of sides , that's true , but he has married a South African girl and seems settled in Durban. Gary Kirsten's keeping his cards close to his chest and we've still heard little about his favoured starting XI. Interestingly there's a lot of support for Jacques Rudolph getting a recall - he hasn't played a test for SA for 4 years. He topped the batting in the local season here last season and has done really well for Yorkshire for 4 years now.
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 7:00am |
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Perhaps you're right, but playing for SAF is not a very settled life either! It will be interesting to see how committed he is. Rudolph was a victim of the quota system, now that the SAF team has integrated quite a few Asian and Coloured players you'd think that the quota system can be discarded...
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SL depends a lot on Dilshan Sanga and Mahela. Get them off their gears early and SL would be against the wall. Well done to Johnson but was bit lucky too , got more than a couple of wickets of rank bad balls. The deliveries to Sanga and Jeevan Mendis were beauties. That sums up Johnson for you. Can never take him too light, but the minute the onus is on him he could easily lose the plot too.
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