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    Posted: 07 March 2008 at 7:05am

I Most of us just wanted to see that series happening. We would have taken a 3-0 beating even, but no cricket is absolutely disappointing. And it is more disapointing when you look at the attititude of the Australians..both the players and the officials

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2008 at 8:49am

it's very disapointing that there will be no cricket (by the look of it) and the PCB are spot on in saying that no other teams have any problems coming to PAK, had it been a 9 on 1 or 8 on 2, in terms of teams against touring PAK, it would have been understandable.

moreover, the ICC are not even sending their own team to analyse the situation and security in PAK, i they find it safe then they can surely ask AUS to go ahead with the tour, it' s really sad that AUS are turning out to be very infamous team in the subcontinent, be it IND, PAK or SLN, and by the look of it, the crowds are going to love it should they lose in the champions trophy this year and in the WC three years later.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2008 at 9:19am
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Yasir has now scored a century!!! A blistering one!! I have always felt he should be in  the test squad
 
Yeah I have always admired Hameed. His shots always had a quality atached to it. He fell away just when he was on the verge of becoming a permanent member and since then his comebacks havent been great enough. Age s catching up as well but I always believed that Imran farhat and yasir Hameed were Pakistans best choice as openers. Taufeeq Umar, Mohammed Hafeez were crap. The selectors are not patient at all otherwise a player of Abdul Razzaq's classs would not have left the national team to play in a rebel league!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2008 at 9:36am
farhat was very harshly treated right throught his career, no doubts about that, hameed is a good player but unfortunately he has failed to deliver in whatever little chances he has got since his comeback.
 
salman meanwhile has scored another century, this time a 160 to take his tally to 629 runs in 4 innings and 3 matches.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2008 at 11:34pm
out of 723 for 4 in 114 overs this time
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2008 at 11:57pm
what kind of wickets are they playing these game on and how good are bowlers otherwise these scores, quite frankly, are meaningless. I quite liked some of the games that were played in Ranji this season. Good batsman were getting scores while bowlers were also getting wickets. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 March 2008 at 5:25pm
the match actually ended in a result clobs!!!
 
but i agree the pitches must be quite flat, i think salman plays for punjab and the team consists of plenty of international players like malik, misbah, kamran, nasir, hafeez, etc... hence they are getting some huge scores, but this is not necessarily true for other teams.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 March 2008 at 5:27am
Pitches are damn flat. And Balochistan side is perhaps the weakest among the regional sides. I dont reallly rate this knock of Butt very highly given the opposition bowling attack. But no doubt that he is in some kind of form no matter how easy the conditions maybe.
 
As for Yaisr Hameed, he never failed to deliver untill the last India-Pak series. Prior to that he always scored whenever given th chance. He has 4 half centuries in 5 games he played i the span of 17 months. This tells the biasness of selectors. Imran Farhat is crap in my book. Taufeeq and Yaisr for me are the best possible options forPakistan. But now, Taufeeq's career seems over.  Selectors will have a go with Butt and Nasir Jamshed for 3-4 test matches i guess.
 
Pity that Pakistan have no test assignemet now for a long long time after Aussies refusal
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 1:40am
Hameed will struggle Zuhair. The lost I saw of him, his technique is suspect and on a good pace tracked against fast bowlers, the short stuff will have him. He commits forward too much!
 
Salman Butt as I've said before, is crap in my books. I know he's a million times better than me but......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 6:16am
does it mean there is no hope of australia coming zuhair???
 
it's a pity really, pakistan's next test will then be once again against india in december, thats an awful lot of time!!! and after that they play srilanka in july next year!!!! PCB should do something about this, the only thing they are doing is making pakistan play more and more ODI's, i read that they have added another 38 ODI's to the existing that PAK were scheduled to play in the next two years.
 
thats an awful lot of ODI cricket and literally no test cricket.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 6:18am

Pentangular cup in pakistan now seems like a useless exercise as Aussies have refused to tour offcially now!!

Paksitan will now test matches in December!!!!!! How baout this ICC FTP? Pathtic to say the least. No test cricket for such a long period is absolutely disgusting.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 6:29am
the tour is "postponed" as they say, and i can tell you looking at australia's and pakistan's cricketing calender, there is no way that they can schedule the tour anytime this year.
 
pak will eventually play just 1 or 2 test matches in 2008, thats pathetic to say the least.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 6:36am
It has ben canceelled officially today after another blast here in LAhore.
 
I cant recall when was the last time a test team (excluding BD or ZIm) played just a couple of test matches for the entire year. 2009 doesnt look very good eithr, with first test in July next year!!
 
I am not a hug fan of ICC rankings, but it will definately send abd signals to the plyers. What about the form and fitness of the players? Somebody got to look in
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 6:52am
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

It has ben canceelled officially today after another blast here in LAhore.
 
I cant recall when was the last time a test team (excluding BD or ZIm) played just a couple of test matches for the entire year. 2009 doesnt look very good eithr, with first test in July next year!!
 
I am not a hug fan of ICC rankings, but it will definately send abd signals to the plyers. What about the form and fitness of the players? Somebody got to look in
 
fitness levels may still be maintained zuhair as they will be playing plenty of ODI cricket starting june this year, but it's really sad that a test playing nation ends up playing just 2 tests in a year, even if you include the australia series (had it happened) they still play just 5 tests in 2008 and 5 in 2009 (assuming PAK don't ban AUS tour next year).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 7:21am
They should but they wont. I have always opposed the ICC plan. There should be equal number of test and ODI matches for all the teams every year. Common sense must prevail now
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 8:02am
That won't happen zuhair simply because the subcontinental sides want more one day cricket.  It's more popular with the fans over there and generates much more money.   It's not a new phenomenon either -historically tours to that region have led to wrangles over the itinary.  England always wanted more tests , India and Pakistan in particular , wanted a plethora of one dayers and were happy to sacrifice a test or two.
     Tis a pity about the cancellation of the Aussie series , but it didn't come as any surprise to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 8:30am
i think the best thing is to arrange this tour on a newtral venue. In Pakistan it will remain this situation forever. I think champions trophy must be shift to another country too. its bombing without any ends. its too dangouras in Pakistan.
I hope they can change it to a neutral place
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 8:42am
Originally posted by Sledger

That won't happen zuhair simply because the subcontinental sides want more one day cricket. 
I was going through the percentage of test matches each nation played in this decade Sledge. Only England seem to have got the right percentage... Bondy should be a worried man looking at Nz's percentage
 
Team                  Tests          ODIs             Percentage of Tests
England              104            186                   35.86%
West Indies         89             196                   31.22%
South Africa         91             225                   28.79%
Australia              91             236                   27.82%
Srilanka               79             230                   25.56%
India                    85             257                  24.85%
Pakistan              74              231                  24.2%
New Zealand       61             204                  23%
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 8:55am
Neither was I Sledge. I knew it will be cancelled. Kahmed's comments look quite silly to me, though its his opinion.
 
Its not that Sub-continent sides want more ODIs..the boards do. But doesnt there exist a need that all tams should be made to play equal number of matches..atleast test matches.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 9:03am
Zuhair i am also a pakistani love to watch cricket in Pakistan, but this as a foreigner. How can any team tour Pakistan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 9:28am
Originally posted by kirankri

Bondy should be a worried man looking at Nz's percentage
 
Team                  Tests          ODIs             Percentage of Tests
England              104            186                   35.86%
West Indies         89             196                   31.22%
South Africa         91             225                   28.79%
Australia              91             236                   27.82%
Srilanka               79             230                   25.56%
India                    85             257                  24.85%
Pakistan              74              231                  24.2%
New Zealand       61             204                  23%
 
That's a frightening statistic Kiran! In the past NZ have always played a 2 tests and 5 ODI's (in one series) largely due to the fact that crowds for test cricket are never really that big here - a shame too, as test cricket is cricket, for me.
 
I thought Australia would be higher on that list given the crowds they generate and the Ashes producing 5 tests every couple of years.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 9:49am
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

 
Its not that Sub-continent sides want more ODIs..the boards do. But doesnt there exist a need that all tams should be made to play equal number of matches..atleast test matches.


as you know zuhair, sadly the boards aren't really all that interested in what the players want (or need), it's all about chasing the pot of gold
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 10:18am
Very true Clobs!!! Very sadly this is true. And this is also true that unfortunately a very high percentage of sub continent fans prefer one day cricket over test cricket.
 
Kahmed mark my words, aussies will be touring pakistan for the champions trophy. this cancellation doe not have to do with the ongoing trouble only. Who is the next team touring SRL? They are having bomb blasts on a daily basis these days. But they understand that the target of these attacks are the law enforcing authorities there. But for some reason, better known to them only, they fail to undrstand the same in case of Pakistan.
 
May sound like i am exaggerating a bit, but i cant hide my disappointment
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 10:36am
It dosen't matter who the targets are, civilians get are getting hurt and you can't guarentee the players safety, no matter how you try and make the bombings a no issue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 10:43am
Originally posted by bondy

Originally posted by kirankri

Bondy should be a worried man looking at Nz's percentage
 
Team                  Tests          ODIs             Percentage of Tests
England              104            186                   35.86%
West Indies         89             196                   31.22%
South Africa         91             225                   28.79%
Australia              91             236                   27.82%
Srilanka               79             230                   25.56%
India                    85             257                  24.85%
Pakistan              74              231                  24.2%
New Zealand       61             204                  23%
 
That's a frightening statistic Kiran! In the past NZ have always played a 2 tests and 5 ODI's (in one series) largely due to the fact that crowds for test cricket are never really that big here - a shame too, as test cricket is cricket, for me.


Agreed. If you want to see wickets and boundaries, watch an ODI or 20/20. But if you want to see proper cricket, watch a test match.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 10:54am
That was expected from you 143!! Rather i was expecting a rather bitter comment from your side. Well, you are far away from here and you know no nothing about the situation here. I would love to read your comments when the same Austalian team will tour Pakistan in the IPL off season

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 11:07am
Yes if it is only a postponment!!! Which i fear is not the case!!! A fear of sending even the security team is beyond me. International squash championship is starting tomorow in pakistan. With 42 players from westrn countries touring. GOD save them 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 11:19am
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That won't happen zuhair simply because the subcontinental sides want more one day cricket. 
I was going through the percentage of test matches each nation played in this decade Sledge. Only England seem to have got the right percentage... Bondy should be a worried man looking at Nz's percentage
 
Team                  Tests          ODIs             Percentage of Tests
England              104            186                   35.86%
West Indies         89             196                   31.22%
South Africa         91             225                   28.79%
Australia              91             236                   27.82%
Srilanka               79             230                   25.56%
India                    85             257                  24.85%
Pakistan              74              231                  24.2%
New Zealand       61             204                  23%
 
excellent work kiran!!! just goes to show how much importance india and pakistan give to ODI cricket!!! IND though are maintaining a good balance these days which is good to see.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2008 at 11:27am
the idea of a neutral venue simply won't work kahmed, i'd still love to see the tour go on at a neutral venue, but logically PAK should never agree to it, it can eventually mean "no cricket" in PAK and a bankrupt PCB, in a few years time the national team can be in danger running out of sponsors, youngsters and everything else.
 
i can only hope the situation gets better in PAK, and with the asia cup and the champions trophy lined up to be held in PAK later this year, it'll be a perfect oppourtunity for the PCB to prove that PAK is as safe as any other country for cricket.
 
i'm sorry for asking this, but i think the elections are already over in PAK so when will the new govt. be formed???, at least one can hope for the situation to get better then.
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