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143no
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Topic: Australia Tour to Pakistan Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:09am |
"He probably is the most unfit player in the team but one certainly cant doubt his commitment"
Quite a contradiction.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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143no
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:10am |
Originally posted by kirankri
Originally posted by ahmadbilal
Now a Days he is also seeing the dreams of captaincy.
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Is he eyeing on captaincy?
Some good points ...Integrity, being a team man. Without these two qualities, a captain always finds it very difficult to handle an individual. |
Exactly Kiran, he dosen't seem to have the respect of his team mates either.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:14am |
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Mate, being unfit is one thing and being committed is another. I wonder if somebody ever doubted Bond's commitment to NZ cricket. Get it straight mate.
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143no
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:18am |
Bond has suffered injuries, not poor fitness, if ahktar didn't carry excess weight he would not be injured as much and might be able to bowl more than a handful of overs.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:22am |
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Bond was by far the fittest on the team, he just had poor technique for his bowling action.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:24am |
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Akhtar has had more injuries lad!! Well..ofcorse i dont have to make you beleive a certain thing that is preconcieved in your mind. I wonder how easily do people ignore his cricketing aspect and focus on every other thing. Strange
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143no
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:28am |
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Strange is defending a guy with his record, you are certainly not getting much support. Why is it that everyone else is wrong, but you alone are correct?
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:32am |
Never did i say i am correct. Did i? I stand by my opinion though. You stand by your own.
Stranger is not talking about the guy's cricketing abilitites with such a record that he has.
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kirankri
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:32am |
When Bond is playing, you won't see him bowl just 2 overs, then getting treatment from the physio in the boundary line, bowl another 3 balls and go off the field. Return after 2 days...
I can't have such a player in my side.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:35am |
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How easily do exceptions make rules in certain cases...
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143no
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:38am |
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That has been pakistans problem, rules for some, not for others. Hopefully now the board is heading in the right direction, Lawson will not play favorites.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:08am |
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Board is heading in a very wrong direction. Asif promotd to catgory 'A' for the same reason whihc led AKhtar's removal from the contract, nver mind a level C
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kahmad
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:25am |
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Waseem Akram had never problems with Akhtar as a captain. It depends very much on the captain and the board how to deal a player. I dont like to see a player going off the field after first day of the match and let other Bowlers alone for 4 days. Akhtar have done it quite a lot of times. I cant remember any other player in the world who have done this 4 or 5 times. There are only 2 ways. PCB have to look for a replacement for Akhtar as i cant see any Bowler who can take this role in Pakistan. Or PCB should try to solve these Problems intern. They have to sit down with the players and talk about the situation.
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mystery
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:57am |
I dont think Akhtar want to play for the team or for Pakistan he just want one thing thats money........
Lee and Akhtar both bowls fast than why only Akhtar gets injured and Lee keeps on playing and taking wickets?
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kahmad
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 12:01pm |
Pakistan have always the worst fittness. Look at the other players. Yousuf is 33 and cant run. Afridi just 27 and so lazy. Its overall problem for Pakistan
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 12:22pm |
You and your posts mystery!!!
Wish you could trace Akhtar's previous record when talking baout money and not playing for the nation. He has been denied the central contract and had he wished he could so easily have opted for ICL!! People just seem to be so obsessed with thier formed opinions to think that everything one does ahs to be wrong
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 12:58pm |
Zuhair, Bond isn't unfit like Akhtar. Breaking down with back injuries aren't really due to poor fitness but as Nz fast said, bad bowling technique. Akhtar on the other hand because of excess weight, he can get ankle injuries, torn hamstrings etc mor easily.
That series with Pakistan vs India, Akhtar hardly bowled 20 odd overs in an innings. It doesn't make sense just having a bowler in test cricket bowling 10 overs although if he gets you two wickets.
Look at the Windies, they won't even pick Lawson again because of his poor bowling action. It's simple really, I don't think Akhtar would be around if he was from other nations.
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 3:33pm |
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Why do Pakistan have such poor backup bowlers. They can't go on relying on just two bowlers. They need to find more decent bowlers. Tanvir, I thought would be a good bowler but didn't impress me much after but I would still give him more time to make a judgement. I wouldn't have Akthar in my squad unless he has proved he is fully fit. He should play domestic cricket for a while to prove that he won't get injured again after playing a series or something.
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mystery
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 8:39pm |
Zuhair you are saying Akhtar is a match winner when he is fit but i think he is a match loser than winner.......
Pakistan have lost more matches in recent times than winning because of him and because of his selfishness the team spirit is alwayz down.......
Edited by mystery - 08 February 2008 at 8:41pm
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MalikBrother
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 9:40pm |
Originally posted by Clobber
Originally posted by kirankri
I won't deny the fact that, I definetly support Australia if this series is played. But when I made a point about Akthar, that was my opinion if Pakistan need to be competitive in the series. He is too indescisplined IMO to consider him in the side when you are thinking of having only 4 regular bowlers. If the opinion is because of the bias against Pakistan, it would be interesting to know what the neutrals (Sledge, Clobs, 143, Bondy, BFM, Spin and others ...) think about Akhtar. Would you like to take him in your side guys when you want to play 4 bowlers? |
as a neutral, and just as importantly someone who actually cares about the integrity of the game of cricket, I wouldn't have him anywhere near any side I was involved in.
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if you are questioning Akhtar's integrity, you shouldn't be here  as if you have forgotten about Pointing
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 9:42pm |
Brillant Malikbrother, i already used that Ponting statment on a few lads back here.
Just hoping that Yousuf and younis doesn't wait until aussie arrives in town to stop making runs because they always does.
Edited by BackFoot Master - 08 February 2008 at 9:43pm
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MalikBrother
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 9:42pm |
Originally posted by mystery
Zuhair you are saying Akhtar is a match winner when he is fit but i think he is a match loser than winner.......
Pakistan have lost more matches in recent times than winning because of him and because of his selfishness the team spirit is alwayz down.......
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same can be said about Afridi except that he is tulle baaz player ( tulle baaz means hit blindly)
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Clobber
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:23pm |
Originally posted by MalikBrother
Originally posted by Clobber
Originally posted by kirankri
I won't deny the fact that, I definetly support Australia if this series is played. But when I made a point about Akthar, that was my opinion if Pakistan need to be competitive in the series. He is too indescisplined IMO to consider him in the side when you are thinking of having only 4 regular bowlers. If the opinion is because of the bias against Pakistan, it would be interesting to know what the neutrals (Sledge, Clobs, 143, Bondy, BFM, Spin and others ...) think about Akhtar. Would you like to take him in your side guys when you want to play 4 bowlers? |
as a neutral, and just as importantly someone who actually cares about the integrity of the game of cricket, I wouldn't have him anywhere near any side I was involved in.
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if you are questioning Akhtar's integrity, you shouldn't be here as if you have forgotten about Pointing 
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Remind me when Pointing (sic) failed a drug test will you? Or attacked a team mate with a bat? Pillock (as is BFM for labelling your post "brillant")
Edited by Clobber - 08 February 2008 at 10:24pm
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MalikBrother
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 10:57pm |
Originally posted by Clobber
Originally posted by MalikBrother
Originally posted by Clobber
Originally posted by kirankri
I won't deny the fact that, I definetly support Australia if this series is played. But when I made a point about Akthar, that was my opinion if Pakistan need to be competitive in the series. He is too indescisplined IMO to consider him in the side when you are thinking of having only 4 regular bowlers. If the opinion is because of the bias against Pakistan, it would be interesting to know what the neutrals (Sledge, Clobs, 143, Bondy, BFM, Spin and others ...) think about Akhtar. Would you like to take him in your side guys when you want to play 4 bowlers? |
as a neutral, and just as importantly someone who actually cares about the integrity of the game of cricket, I wouldn't have him anywhere near any side I was involved in.
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if you are questioning Akhtar's integrity, you shouldn't be here as if you have forgotten about Pointing 
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Remind me when Pointing (sic) failed a drug test will you? Or attacked a team mate with a bat?
Pillock (as is BFM for labelling your post "brillant")
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Pointing : Akhtar has abused Symond Akhtar : i am not Judge : shut up ..Akhtar ...let Pointing Pointing : Thank You Thank You ...Your Honor ...Punish Him Judge : Okay as you said... Pointing Akhtar : What the hell is happening ? Judge : Shut up ...Akhtar ...Otherwise, i will have your azz send in Jail
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Clobber
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:04pm |
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which of my questions did that nonsensical garbage answer?
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MalikBrother
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:23pm |
Originally posted by Clobber
which of my questions did that nonsensical garbage answer?
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same as you brought the topic of Akhtar out of nowhere
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mystery
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:29pm |
Malik stop talking Rubbish talk some sense.......
Your all posts above are nonsense...
Edited by mystery - 08 February 2008 at 11:31pm
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Clobber
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:31pm |
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going on this thread I don't think he is capable of talking sense....
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MalikBrother
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:34pm |
Originally posted by mystery
Malik stop talking Rubbish talk some sense.......
Your all posts above are nonsense... |
how is that my posts suddenly nonsense? i think you should watch interview between Ricky and Indian Reporte  ...Judge believed Australia players like Clark, Hayden and Ricky without evidence to back and giving them the credits for being honest and overlooked Sachin's statement about Harbajjan who was innocent according to Sachin  ...Suddenly, my post becomes nonsense
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mystery
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Posted: 08 February 2008 at 11:36pm |
Originally posted by MalikBrother
Pointing : Akhtar has abused Symond Akhtar : i am not Judge : shut up ..Akhtar ...let Pointing Pointing : Thank You Thank You ...Your Honor ...Punish Him Judge : Okay as you said... Pointing Akhtar : What the hell is happening ? Judge : Shut up ...Akhtar ...Otherwise, i will have your azz send in Jail
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What you are trying to prove by writing all this Rubbish?
Edited by mystery - 08 February 2008 at 11:37pm
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