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spin wizard
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Topic: Australia vs England - Twenty/20 Posted: 09 January 2007 at 8:20pm |
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This Hillfy! Is he the one who played in the recent world cup or something who bowled very well for the u-19's?
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Roscoe
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Posted: 09 January 2007 at 10:06pm |
Originally posted by Clobber
that thing with having nicknames on the shirts is such a cringe
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As AK says, they make 20/20 look like a joke - which it is. Keep them there I say, as well as those battleship grey uniforms. The less resemblance it bears to serious cricket, the better. We don't want the players thinking they are representing their country rather than slogging sixes into the crowd for their drunken amusement.
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inzamam329
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Posted: 09 January 2007 at 10:10pm |
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Oh yeh those auss strips are way off colour!!! Whats wrong with the normal yellow? the nicknames did make me laugh, they just some up 20/20, i dont really enjoy this format, turns perfectly great cricketers into sloggers and is not a pretty sight unless your one for fast and meaningless cricket.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 12:28am |
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I don't think the Aussies played well. I just think the Englanders played bad. Of coarse I am being sarcastic and even if it was true, it would just show how bad England is.
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gambler
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 1:12am |
Originally posted by Roscoe
Originally posted by Clobber
that thing with having nicknames on the shirts is such a cringe |
As AK says, they make 20/20 look like a joke - which it is. Keep them there I say, as well as those battleship grey uniforms. The less resemblance it bears to serious cricket, the better. We don't want the players thinking they are representing their country rather than slogging sixes into the crowd for their drunken amusement.
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You make it sound like hitting sixes ("for the crowd's drunken amusement") is just easy, mindless slogging which requires little skill.
The Aussies did make it look easy....hitting 14 of them. But if it is so easy, then why were England only able to hit 1???
The fact was that I saw a lot of skillful cricket last nite. Gilchrist (5 sixes) for example wasn't doing anything different from what he did during the Test match in Perth....it was all good clean hitting. The same went for Ponting, Hayden and White. The same went for the clever Aussie bowling...with lots of variety...(eg slow balls) and accurate bowling which prevented the English batsmen from being able to "slog".
As for the crowd...you must've been watching different coverage from me. I didn't see to many drunken yobbos on my TV screen. Half the crowd were actually kids! I'd be willing to bet that your average 50 over ODI has far more drunken morons than there were last nite. For 1 thing, 3 hours aren't enough for most people to get tanked up properly....
But I do agree with Clobber....get rid of those ridiculous nicknames!!!.. 
Edited by gambler - 10 January 2007 at 1:13am
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joelza1990
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 1:18am |
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I agree with Australia's batting, most of the 6's and 4's were conventinal cricket shots. I don't mind the nicknames gives a bit of life to the game and the interaction with gilly punter and vaughan was great.
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 2:11am |
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Because of 20/20 games the run rate in tests usually hovers around 3.5-4 an over. It used to be 2.5-3.2 or somewhere around there.
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Roscoe
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 3:15am |
Originally posted by gambler
You make it sound like hitting sixes ("for the crowd's drunken amusement") is just easy, mindless slogging which requires little skill.
The Aussies did make it look easy....hitting 14 of them. But if it is so easy, then why were England only able to hit 1???
The fact was that I saw a lot of skillful cricket last nite. Gilchrist (5 sixes) for example wasn't doing anything different from what he did during the Test match in Perth....it was all good clean hitting. The same went for Ponting, Hayden and White. The same went for the clever Aussie bowling...with lots of variety...(eg slow balls) and accurate bowling which prevented the English batsmen from being able to "slog". |
Of course hitting sixes requires skill, but that doesn't change the fact that 20/20 is not a test of patience, concentration, defensive batting, attacking bowling and other qualities that define cricket and, for that matter, separate it from baseball, its dumbed-down cousin. From Tests to ODIs to 20/20s, if you follow the trend to its logical conclusion, you end up with baseball. There's plenty of skill in baseball, but it's just not cricket, is it?
Originally posted by gambler
As for the crowd...you must've been watching different coverage from me. I didn't see to many drunken yobbos on my TV screen. Half the crowd were actually kids! I'd be willing to bet that your average 50 over ODI has far more drunken morons than there were last nite. For 1 thing, 3 hours aren't enough for most people to get tanked up properly.... |
I'm talking about 20/20 in general. No one is drunk at the SCG because they only sell light beer, to the eternal disgrace of the SCG Trust.
Edited by Roscoe - 10 January 2007 at 3:31am
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 3:23am |
Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE
Because of 20/20 games the run rate in tests usually hovers around 3.5-4 an over. It used to be 2.5-3.2 or somewhere around there. |
...the runrate in test matches are around 4 and over from 50 over matches.
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"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 11:43am |
Originally posted by Sureshot
Originally posted by Sledger
Fantastic performance by the visitors , batting the whole 20 overs , watch us go in the real pyjama game!!
143no is right too , does every other shot have to be a reverse sweep? When they hit it they get a single - brilliant!
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For Fletch that's proof that it works though.
Did the Aussies sweep? No. So why should we?
Sweeping may work in England (it can at times) but hit straight for goodness sake, especially against the spinners. Hilfenhaus looked quite good.
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Sweeping wasn't the problem, it was the reverse sweep, hard shot to pull off and only worth a single when you get it right. Just not worth the risk.
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 12:13pm |
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I have to say I wasnt impressed with those shots when they could have been punting them straight down the ground for 4/6 instead but whatever, its happened now, hopefully they will learn from this and realise that to play T20 you need to go out with an agressive attitude and hit some boundaries.
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Sureshot
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 12:41pm |
Originally posted by Sledger
Yes Hilfy (sound like a serious illness huh , "he's down
with the dreaded Hilfy!") swung the ball nicely , but they were
bowling at night.
Just how many straws am I allowed to pluck fellas?
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Serious question. Do you pluck straws? or do the the chickens around your area have straws instead of feathers?
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Sledger
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 1:13pm |
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The chickens around my area lad are called ostriches.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Sureshot
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 4:18pm |
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You must have big ovens.
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W.G.
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 7:19pm |
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Following a less than successful outing predicting the twenty20 I will now turn my hand to the weather forecast. 32 C in London tomorrow.
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When you win the toss - bat.
If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat.
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 8:18pm |
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Well thatw ould be nice WG, but I doubt it'll get as high as 32 degrees C, maybe 32 degrees farenheit
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 8:36pm |
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That has got to be real cold!
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 10 January 2007 at 8:52pm |
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Thats in the minus figures in centigrade, hopefully won't be that cold though, more like 15 C probably
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Sledger
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Posted: 11 January 2007 at 6:05am |
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32F is actually 0C Slogger.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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