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    Posted: 09 January 2007 at 8:20pm
This Hillfy! Is he the one who played in the recent world cup or something who bowled very well for the u-19's?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2007 at 10:06pm
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that thing with having nicknames on the shirts is such a cringe


As AK says, they make 20/20 look like a joke - which it is. Keep them there I say, as well as those battleship grey uniforms. The less resemblance it bears to serious cricket, the better. We don't want the players thinking they are representing their country rather than slogging sixes into the crowd for their drunken amusement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2007 at 10:10pm
Oh yeh those auss strips are way off colour!!! Whats wrong with the normal yellow? the nicknames did make me laugh, they just some up 20/20, i dont really enjoy this format, turns perfectly great cricketers into sloggers and is not a pretty sight unless your one for fast and meaningless cricket.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 12:28am
I don't think the Aussies played well. I just think the Englanders played bad. Of coarse I am being sarcastic and even if it was true, it would just show how bad England is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 1:12am
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Originally posted by Clobber

that thing with having nicknames on the shirts is such a cringe


As AK says, they make 20/20 look like a joke - which it is. Keep them there I say, as well as those battleship grey uniforms. The less resemblance it bears to serious cricket, the better. We don't want the players thinking they are representing their country rather than slogging sixes into the crowd for their drunken amusement.
 
 
You make it sound like hitting sixes ("for the crowd's drunken amusement") is just easy, mindless slogging which requires little skill.
 
The Aussies did make it look easy....hitting 14 of them. But if it is so easy, then why were England only able to hit 1???
 
The fact was that I saw a lot of skillful cricket last nite. Gilchrist (5 sixes) for example wasn't doing anything different from what he did during the Test match in Perth....it was all good clean hitting. The same went for Ponting, Hayden and White. The same went for the clever Aussie bowling...with lots of variety...(eg slow balls) and accurate bowling which prevented the English batsmen from being able to "slog".
 
As for the crowd...you must've been watching different coverage from me. I didn't see to many drunken yobbos on my TV screen. Half the crowd were actually kids! I'd be willing to bet that your average 50 over ODI has far more drunken morons than there were last nite. For 1 thing, 3 hours aren't enough for most people to get tanked up properly....LOL 
 
But I do agree with Clobber....get rid of those ridiculous nicknames!!!..Confused


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 1:18am
I agree with Australia's batting, most of the 6's and 4's were conventinal cricket shots. I don't mind the nicknames gives a bit of life to the game and the interaction with gilly punter and vaughan was great. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 2:11am
Because of 20/20 games the run rate in tests usually hovers around 3.5-4 an over. It used to be 2.5-3.2 or somewhere around there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 3:15am
Originally posted by gambler

You make it sound like hitting sixes ("for the crowd's drunken amusement") is just easy, mindless slogging which requires little skill.
 
The Aussies did make it look easy....hitting 14 of them. But if it is so easy, then why were England only able to hit 1???
 
The fact was that I saw a lot of skillful cricket last nite. Gilchrist (5 sixes) for example wasn't doing anything different from what he did during the Test match in Perth....it was all good clean hitting. The same went for Ponting, Hayden and White. The same went for the clever Aussie bowling...with lots of variety...(eg slow balls) and accurate bowling which prevented the English batsmen from being able to "slog".


Of course hitting sixes requires skill, but that doesn't change the fact that 20/20 is not a test of patience,  concentration, defensive batting, attacking bowling and other qualities that define cricket and, for that matter, separate it from baseball, its dumbed-down cousin.

From Tests to ODIs to 20/20s, if you follow the trend to its logical conclusion, you end up with baseball. There's plenty of skill in baseball, but it's just not cricket, is it?
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As for the crowd...you must've been watching different coverage from me. I didn't see to many drunken yobbos on my TV screen. Half the crowd were actually kids! I'd be willing to bet that your average 50 over ODI has far more drunken morons than there were last nite. For 1 thing, 3 hours aren't enough for most people to get tanked up properly....

I'm talking about 20/20 in general. No one is drunk at the SCG because they only sell light beer, to the eternal disgrace of the SCG Trust.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 3:23am
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Because of 20/20 games the run rate in tests usually hovers around 3.5-4 an over. It used to be 2.5-3.2 or somewhere around there.


...the runrate in test matches are around 4 and over from 50 over matches.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 11:43am
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 Fantastic performance by the visitors , batting the whole 20 overs , watch us go in the real pyjama game!!

    143no is right too , does every other shot have to be a reverse sweep?  When they hit it they get a single - brilliant!


For Fletch that's proof that it works though.

Did the Aussies sweep? No. So why should we?

Sweeping may work in England (it can at times) but hit straight for goodness sake, especially against the spinners. Hilfenhaus looked quite good.
 
 
Sweeping wasn't the problem, it was the reverse sweep, hard shot to pull off and only worth a single when you get it right. Just not worth the risk.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 12:13pm
I have to say I wasnt impressed with those shots when they could have been punting them straight down the ground for 4/6 instead but whatever, its happened now, hopefully they will learn from this and realise that to play T20 you need to go out with an agressive attitude and hit some boundaries.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by Sledger

   Yes Hilfy (sound like a serious illness huh , "he's down with the dreaded Hilfy!")  swung the ball nicely , but they were bowling at night.

      Just how many straws am I allowed to pluck fellas?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 4:18pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 7:19pm
Following a less than successful outing predicting the twenty20 I will now turn my hand to the weather forecast.  32 C in London tomorrow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 8:18pm
Well thatw ould be nice WG, but I doubt it'll get as high as 32 degrees C, maybe 32 degrees farenheit
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 8:36pm
That has got to be real cold!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 8:52pm
Thats in the minus figures in centigrade, hopefully won't be that cold though, more like 15 C probably
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32F is actually 0C Slogger.
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