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BackwardPoint
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Topic: Australia vs. India (in Australia) Posted: 27 February 2012 at 1:04pm |
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I don't even think India care anymore. Mikey's assessment of Dhoni as apathetic to losing seems to be correct, the entire team just hardly seem to care. Hopeless run-outs, no determination in converting ones into twos, sloppy fielding. It's just embarrassing. At least look at ENG when they got smashed 3-0 recently. You could tell they were hurting. You could tell they cared and you could tell they were working hard to improve their game. It's the least you expect from any cricket team, let alone one that is the current world champions and represents a nation of over 1 billion people. One of the most disgraceful performances from any team in a long, long while. I can never see IND challenging AUS, ENG and RSA for an extremely long time. The mentality and passion is not there anymore. It's actually rather sad.
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Mikey
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Posted: 27 February 2012 at 1:45pm |
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It is indeed the precise problem, a complete apathy to losing. I think it's okay to not fear defeat, but to actually be apathetic towards is plain unprofessional and no one in that Indian side deserves a penny for their efforts.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 27 February 2012 at 3:12pm |
I think I would agree, after winning the WC the Indian team instead of taking their game to a higher level have rather took it to a new low level. It is like winning the WC was the only thing they wanted, winning the WC can be the most important thing, but it shouldn't be the only important thing.
The Indian crowd is not happy but for them the WC win still matters more than these defeats, I think the only real eye opener for the Indian people would have been a series loss to Pakistan, no one would have taken that, but that series ain't happening, BCCI is too smart to let that happen at this stage.
India can still qualify for the finals if they beat SLN by a bonus point tomorrow and if SLN go on to lose against AUS... and would you believe it, Dhoni and the entire Indian team weren't even aware of this, they just don't care, they want to go home.
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Posted: 28 February 2012 at 12:24pm |
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a really good performance by India today. They showed why they are the World Champions. Only India can chase such target in this style. If they reach the finals then they will definetly win the finals.
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Posted: 28 February 2012 at 1:44pm |
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Thats going too far Kahmad even if they reach the finals still they will struggle to win it and the way SL bowled even C.Martin would hit a six their bowling was just horrible they were never trying to win the match all they wanted to do was to not let India win inside 40 overs.
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Posted: 28 February 2012 at 3:10pm |
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Sam's statement is true, they didn't even realise they were still it and just wanted to go home. This last ditch effort by Kohli was purely a masterclass, and it was really a situation of 'let's throw everything we've got at it, and hopefully it comes off'. Indeed it did, and Kohli played his 2nd awesome innings of the summer - shame he doesn't play them more consistently, he's quite a gem to watch.
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Posted: 28 February 2012 at 5:34pm |
He is a gem is Kohli, quite some hitting that! but I don't agree that India can win the finals should they make it, AUS will be overwhelming favorites no matter who they play in the finals.
Quite a disappointment for SLN, time and again india have got the better of them in crucial matches, be it the Asia cup 2010, WC 2011 or this game today.
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Posted: 29 February 2012 at 11:47pm |
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What do you mean he doesn't play them consistently, Mikey? He averages around 48 after 80 odd ODI matches with 9 ODI hundreds. The one at Hobart was easily his best but he is a very consistent and talented ODI batsman.
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 7:08am |
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That last match I found somewhat troubling. Why did the Lankans persist with seam when it was exactly what Kohli wanted ? No doubt a brilliant innings , but the sceptic in me questions the application of the Lankan bowlers. Has anyone seen Malinga sent down such rubbish throughout an entire spell ? That over that went for 24 - every ball was full and on leg stump - Boycott's Mam would've put them away with that famous stick of rhubarb ! So to get the final which the sponsors and TV need , Australia will belt the Lankans in the final match and then probably take the final to the decider before beating the Indians.
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BackwardPoint
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 7:16am |
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It's the worst I have ever seen Malinga bowl. It was really poor captaincy from Jayawardene to keep persisting with him when guys like Herath were proving to be economical. I'll be surprised if SLN can recover from this and defeat AUS.
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Posted: 01 March 2012 at 5:19pm |
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SLN will not be able to beat AUS again, and as sledge said, we might see a 3 match final too.
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Posted: 02 March 2012 at 5:40pm |
 SLN actually go through, they beat Australia for the third time in 4 games... the finals should be interesting because in the last 7 matches between the teams in AUS, SLN have beaten Australia 6 times!
Good come back for Pattinson, a hatrick and 5 wicket haul for Christian,who do you drop once Clarke comes in? Warner? ... and finally Malinga shows up!!!
India will be disappointed but if you ask me honestly, I think the final is being played between two deserving teams.
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Posted: 02 March 2012 at 6:48pm |
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Yeah, the right finalists in my opinion. It wouldn't have been fair for IND to go through when they have been miserable all tour and finally produce in their final game thanks to their star young batsmen who has been the only one who has showed any fight. SLN, in contrast, have looked all along like they wanted it more. I look forward to a tight final.
No way will they drop Warner for Clarke. Forrest will be the obvious choice to miss out.
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Posted: 04 March 2012 at 2:46pm |
WOW! what an innings that was from David Warner, 163... on his maiden ODI ton, that was one of the best knocks I've ever seen! terrific batting! AUS go 1-0 despite a late SLN surge lead by Kulasekara and Tharanga.
Also Brett Lee was brilliant with the new ball.
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Posted: 07 March 2012 at 6:19pm |
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1-1 with one to go! All set for the big final tomorrow!!!!
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Posted: 07 March 2012 at 7:14pm |
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Win or lose should not matter for SL they already gone too far they are the real winners. This just shows how much difference captain makes.
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Posted: 09 March 2012 at 2:14am |
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Sri Lanka is a good team, not world beaters neither definitely the worse. You can count on them to put on a good show, although not necessarily winning constantly. They've come a long way definitely from say early in the last decade.
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Posted: 10 March 2012 at 3:21am |
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Australians are starting to look weary, but a fantastic effort from Warner in the finals series, with 2 tons and 48, including 163 in which he batted to the last ball of the match. I thought McKay proved himself to be a good ODI alternative to some of the other options, and it's not a bad thing to have a guy like him around for ODIs, to keep the likes of Pattinson, Harris, Hilfenhaus, Siddle and Cummins fresh for test cricket. Dan Christian was very useful in this series for Australia with the ball and the occasional batting knock, while Michael Clarke's absence will be missed in the ODI leg of the WI series.
In other news, Ponting and Cowan have both come off hundreds for Tasmanian, this is Punter's second ton in a row - he's still in awesome nick, sometimes things don't go your way in limited overs cricket and it's probably a blessing in disguise that he's no longer in the reckoning for ODI cricket. I think Cowan and Ponting will both tour WI, with Cowan opening with Warner, Watson at 3, Ponting at 4, Clarke at 5, Hussey at 6 and Wade at 7. Haddin will possibly be dropped, while Forrest, Bailey (I really don't know why...) and David Hussey will be in the reckoning as well.
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Posted: 10 March 2012 at 2:39pm |
Damn. Now I hate my TV connection blowing up back November. :/ I would've liked to see some of those innings...
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Posted: 18 March 2012 at 7:39am |
Originally posted by BackwardPoint
I don't even think India care anymore. Mikey's assessment of Dhoni as apathetic to losing seems to be correct, the entire team just hardly seem to care. Hopeless run-outs, no determination in converting ones into twos, sloppy fielding. It's just embarrassing. At least look at ENG when they got smashed 3-0 recently. You could tell they were hurting. You could tell they cared and you could tell they were working hard to improve their game. It's the least you expect from any cricket team, let alone one that is the current world champions and represents a nation of over 1 billion people. One of the most disgraceful performances from any team in a long, long while. I can never see IND challenging AUS, ENG and RSA for an extremely long time. The mentality and passion is not there anymore. It's actually rather sad.
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BP , Eng vs Pak Tests was a closely contested games. Look at the last two test match scoreboards, England fell short of 70 runs in the two tests.They never got thrashed except 1st test mate.So it was natural that England fought tooth and nails , coz they knew that they were just 1 good partnership away from victory. Personally I would say they got one selection wrong in the middle order, which now they have rectified. BP, In mid 90's to mid 2000's ( till Flitoff's magic 2005 Ashes) all the Ashes looked the same to me , it always looked like England never wanted to win and looked as if they never tried to win. To be frank when a team is loosing they look like bunch of losers. It is easy to blame them. India losing to BD is another sign of rut they have got into recently , In CB series they played well in patches, but again they could not make it to finals. India have been On-Off in all formats since the WC glory.It will take time to settle down. On Test match front , I am happy that RD got retired. Congratulations to RD for fantastic career, he has been a great player and his contribution can never be measured coz he meant more than what he scored.Stats say 13288 but to me the actual numbers are way past what stats suggest. Now I just want Lax to follow suit before next test match begins.It's time for the new guys to take over , infact it been long overdue.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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