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    Posted: 15 December 2007 at 5:33pm

bangladesh tour newzealand and on the face of it, it looks to be an easy series for the kiwis, but under-estimating this fearless bangladeshi side will be the last thing the kiwis would want to do.

although i don't follow bangladesh cricket closely, i'm was very much impressed by some of their players, notably tamim iqbal, mohammed ashraful and aftab ahmed. in mashrafe mortaza they have a very fine new ball bowler, and the trio of abdur razzak, mahammed rafique and sakib al hasan has come in very handy for them esp in the shorter version of the game.
 
for the kiwis it'll be an oppourtunity to try out some of their youngsters,(by the way i guess ross taylor is one man for the future),  they should be able to win the test series 2-0, and i'd expect a 3-0 result in the ODI's, but if bangladesh can win all their tour matches it'll be a good achievement, although i'd love to see them winning atleast one ODI.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 December 2007 at 5:41pm
here is the list of fixtures:
 
1st ODI: 26th dec at auckland
 
2nd ODI: 28th dec at napier
 
3rd ODI:  31st dec at queenstown
 
1st TEST: Jan 4-8  at dunedin
 
2nd TEST: Jan 12-16 at wellington


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 December 2007 at 6:17pm
Bangladesh will take a severe thrashing in the kiwis backyard on their greeners.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 12:10am
Bangladesh are playing a warm up game today against Northern Districts. Bangladesh are currently 71/2 after 19 overs. Ashraful is the only one looking to have any sort of class at the moment.

I must add though, just because our pitches actually have some grass on them they are not necessarily green at all, infact i haven't seen a green pitch since that disappointing India tour in 2002 i think it was.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 2:27am
Yeah these days they try to make batting paradises. Its just that it can be overcast and the rain that makes it bowler friendly at times.
 
I don't think India are ever going to come here again after what happened the last time they came.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 3:41am
Yea, those pitches that tour were a total disgrace.

Bangla made 223/7 off their 50 overs. I dont really care about the result of this game, i was just listening to see how young mr Southee went, a young pace bowler with a real chance of playing for NZ in the next few years... i believe he took 1-41 off his 10.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 6:43am
thats a pretty good score, any idea of who got the maximum runs for bangladesh?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 7:02am
I'd say Bangladesh will struggle to win any matches against NZ's domestic outfits. But, it is a good chance to witness up and coming talent...which at the moment is exactly what NZ needs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 7:28am
well an easy win for northern districts by 7 wickets, thats not good news for bangladesh but i guess any victories on this tour will do some good to their confidence level. i guess this is their first ever tour to newzealand.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 7:30am
Originally posted by samz

 
I don't think India are ever going to come here again after what happened the last time they came.
 
well IND will be coming there in march 2009 (still quite some time actually), and i guess the wickets will be much better this time.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 9:08pm
I might sound a bit dumb in saying this, but what exactly happened on that 2002 tour? I cant recall it....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2007 at 10:26pm
India didn't make over 200 runs in any of their innings in the 2 test matches if I recall correctly. And in a wisden cricket book, they say the bowlers were greener than the pitch.     Anyhow, the pitches were green and you know what's the result of green pitches in NZ.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 December 2007 at 10:04pm
Ohok, thanks SW. Just hope our pitches are up to scratch this time around!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 12:22am
Bangledesh have come to nz 1 other time for a two test series sorry i can not remember the year.
nz won 2-0 and i think it was bond and cairns who ran through there batting order to set up the wins both times
they have never been here for a one day series though which i will enjoy i believe bangledesh are a very dangerous one day team on there day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 6:12am
Trouble is our pitches don't really suit spin, which is the main stay of their ODI bowling line up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 6:16am
point taken
maybe if the series was later in the season they would have more chance.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 6:19am
Originally posted by sam_ahmed

Originally posted by samz

 
I don't think India are ever going to come here again after what happened the last time they came.
 
well IND will be coming there in march 2009 (still quite some time actually), and i guess the wickets will be much better this time.
 
I think this is because they saw that the NZ pitches arent really green now. But I did hear ages ago they weren't going to come because their batsman couldn't handle it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 7:00am
I think the ICC decides these tours not the countries themselves although the Indian board does have some say because of the money power. 
I didn't hear any such thing from the Indian batsman not going to NZ. When was this? Were the pitches awful or what? But I still think that our batsman are able to handle this kind of stuff better than they used to.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 7:02am
Shouldnt batsmen be able to handle all types of pitches?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 7:05am
They pulled out before a recent world cup from a tour to nz because they didn't want to prepare for the world cup in nz conditions
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 7:05am
not the kind which was on view in Pak/india 3rd test on last day. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 7:49am
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I think the ICC decides these tours not the countries themselves although the Indian board does have some say because of the money power. 


  The roster is drawn up by the ICC and the BCCI have no influence whatsoever. All 10 countries have to play one another over either a 4 or 5 year cycle , I can't remember which because it's recently been changed !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 7:53am
in fact im sure it was before the latest world cup because sri lanka came instead for the 3rd season in a row
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 11:04am
oh... thanks for correcting me "loving cricket", i didn't knew if bangladesh have been to newzealand before. i agree bangladesh can be a dangerous side in ODI's but i don't feel if they'll win any matches at least this time round.
 
i don't think if the indian batsmen have said anything as such, but i can agree that IND might not have wanted to come before the WC. however IND actually made the WC finals when they decided to tour NZL in 2003, but knocked out in the very first round when they didn't. so i guess touring NZL is actually good for us!!!Smile
 
2009 means IND will actually be coming after 6 years, so surely they must have delayed the tour.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 5:30pm
You beat me to making the match thread Sam. NZ are not in the best of form atm and their confidence will not be very high after the Australia and SA tour so I think we may have chance. My heart says BD will win a test against NZ but mind says BD will win only one ODI (I am being biased).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 5:31pm
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NZ are not in the best of form atm and their confidence will not be very high after the Australia and SA tour so I think we may have chance.
 
Which will give NZ one more good reason to thrash them badly!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 5:35pm
Could be, I feel a lot will depend on the BD players. If they keep their heads right and fire then it will be a cracker otherwise another lopsided match. You never know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 5:43pm
Ashraful and Aftab will be the key fellas along with Mortaza. The former 2 are very good stroke players but their mentality lets them down.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by BackFoot Master

Bangladesh will take a severe thrashing in the kiwis backyard on their greeners.


after reading through this thread this can only be considered as a sensible prediction. Watch Bangladesh get creamed in the ODI series. The test series is likely to be closer if the wickets are conducive to run scoring, but they're not. The pitch the first test is proposed to play on yielded only 500 runs in 4 innings and will favour NZ seam bowlers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2007 at 9:45pm
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Originally posted by canadiancricket

I think the ICC decides these tours not the countries themselves although the Indian board does have some say because of the money power. 


  The roster is drawn up by the ICC and the BCCI have no influence whatsoever. All 10 countries have to play one another over either a 4 or 5 year cycle , I can't remember which because it's recently been changed !


but i read somewhere that BCCI is influencing ICC to cut down the indian series with Zimbabwe and Bangladesh and get more series against Australia and others.
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