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    Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:14am
I thought this thread might be as successful as the spin thread by MiNiWaRnEy, where people can get help with their batting, ask for tips etc. All of the other batting threads like this kind of died, so I'm hoping this one doesn't aswell. Get posting!
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I can give some tips of how to play spin as well as the reverse sweep

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:22am
Well, get going then!

I can also give some tips on how to play spin bowling aswell.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote akki18 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:32am
Originally posted by RightHandBat

Well, get going then!


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         &nbs p;   I have had no trouble playing offspin to date.Most of the non-subcontinent teams indulge in sweeping against the spinners.While this might be a good ploy if the ball is keeping low but if the pitch has a bit of bounce sweep shot should be avoided as much as possible.The only time the ball must be sweeped if it is on or outside the legstump.Never use your pad against spinners.Always use the bat.
The key to playing spin is to get to the pitch of the ball.If you are looking to accelerate against them then the best thing is to charge and not try and stand in the crease and try to slog.Point the face of  your bat towards mid on and slightly towards the sky.Connect to the pitch of the ball and see it soaring to the stands.

All in all always use your bat and not pad and get to the pitch of the ball.Playing of spin will always be a piece of cake then.

Meanwhile this must be my longest post ever.


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I play Off Spin by taking guard on off stump if the spinner is ripping it a mile and because if he pitches it wide of off stump and I miss the ball, my pad will be outside the line of the stumps, and I'm unable to be given out lbw. If he's turning it just a fraction, I play him like a slow seam bowler.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote akki18 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2006 at 8:07am
Agreed.Thats the best way to play an off spin bowler according to me.
For the leg spinner.Take guard on leg stump and you should be facing midwicket in your stance according to me,so that you can free your arms.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2006 at 3:18pm

Originally posted by akkie18

The only time the ball must be sweeped if it is on or outside the legstump....

Well said mate , Thats the only time I do it or if it is like very full on middle or off I will do it. Maybe we should fedex this thread to some of the english top order batter .

My technique is excellent against spin though and I don't plan to change it at all.

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yeah, if someone sweeps from outside off, or on off etc that is usually a premeditated shot, bad shot selection
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No, not necesarily. If its turning, hitting it with the spin is fantastic like that. Ive hit many a boundry off off spinners doing that
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yeah that can be effective, but do you decide, if its in that spot im gonna sweep, before he bowls?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2006 at 6:45am
Originally posted by crick

yeah, if someone sweeps from outside off, or on off etc that is usually a premeditated shot, bad shot selection



The slog sweep can be peformed with ease to a ball outside off stump. A very effective shot to play against a high quality offspinner and even if you miss it, you won't be out if it hits you outside the line.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote akki18 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2006 at 8:35am

Originally posted by Warne in making

No, not necesarily. If its turning, hitting it with the spin is fantastic like that. Ive hit many a boundry off off spinners doing that

Thats what I said .It is not bad to hit it from outside the off stump but if the ball bounces unexpectedly you are doomed

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yeah, if someone sweeps from outside off, or on off etc that is usually a premeditated shot, or bad shot selection



The slog sweep can be peformed with ease to a ball outside off stump. A very effective shot to play against a high quality offspinner and even if you miss it, you won't be out if it hits you outside the line.

yeah but im sure that shot would be a bit premeditated!

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Originally posted by crick

yeah, if someone sweeps from outside off, or on off etc that is usually a premeditated shot, or bad shot selection
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Anyone here have trouble facing those 60 somethings who bowl right arm lob at 15 mph? I hate it when they bowl, usually on Sunday friendlies. In my desire to take them out of the attack I have more than once been embarassed!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2006 at 2:35pm
I've not succumbed to one myself but I know the sort of thing you mean. I remember playing at Wembley a few years ago and their captain was this really really irritating old guy who just lobbed it up, and the combination of his personality and the filth he was bowling encouraged batsmen to have a go every time. The guy would inevitably end up with figures around 3 for 40 off 5 overs each time (all caught on the boundary naturally).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote crick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2006 at 3:33pm
ive found that with those guys, whilst you want to hit them out the park, best is to use your feet and try to play shots properly, work the singles! if you safely get 5-6 runs an over, then he shouldnt keep bowling as he aint getting wickets but still going for runs, and then he is bound to give the bad ball, so even more than 5-6 runs is expected
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my sweep is not premeditated, i make sure it aint too full
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 6:36am
Originally posted by Warne in making

my sweep is not premeditated, i make sure it aint too full



Same with mine. I like to sweep anything just a little wide of the off stump or anything down leg if the shots there for it.

Just outside off stump - Slog Sweep (when its there for a forward defense)
Really Wide - Reverse Sweep
Straying down middle and leg - Sweep Shot
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Originally posted by righthandbat

Same with mine. I like to sweep anything just a little wide of the off stump or anything down leg if the shots there for it.

Just outside off stump - Slog Sweep (when its there for a forward defense)
Really Wide - Reverse Sweep
Straying down middle and leg - Sweep Shot
Down leg side - Paddle Sweep

Good tips here mate , I really never played the slog sweep but had a go once at a reverse sweep in which wasn't that good but my sweep shot and paddle sweep are excellent.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Warne in making Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 4:45pm
Ive played one reverse sweep in a game. Last over. In fact, it wasnt a reverse sweep, it was more of a premeditated left handed slog! One bounce four!!!!
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I only play the reverse sweep when I'm mucking around as I always screw it up. My normal sweep is much better however, I even sweep medium pacers and have only been out once sweeping

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what is the best trigger movement for facing fast in-swingers? and what is the best for facing out-swingers?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2006 at 6:51am
I'd say for you, you should take a low backlift and wait for the ball to do it's thing in the air then play the selected stroke.

When I face fast bigswinning inswingers, I like to bat with a highish backlift on leg stump, wait for the ball to do its thing and play the selected shot. I love to punch them with the bat down the ground for four, even when playing that late on the ball. It's brilliant.

Same thing with an outswinging delivery, just wait for it to do its thing and then play your selected stroke.

My initial movement is a slight shift of weight onto the front foot before playing a stroke. The best thing for you to do is to watch a batsman and sometimes before a bowler bowls, you will see these little movement, try and copy it in the nets and you might get real used to it.


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You should have the same trigger movement to any bowler, just play a different shot!!
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The sweep is just like any other shot but it should only be played when the ball is in the right area just like a cover drive should be played when it full and on the offside
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Originally posted by -JP-

This one was meant to do the same job:

http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1583&a mp;a mp;PN=1

 

I thought there was another thread I just couldn't find it. Back on topic, I have lots of trouble with short pitched bowling. I don't want to hook it, as I'm paranoid about being caught at square leg. Any suggestions.

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Hit it along the ground if you have to. Hit down on the ball and make sure you get ontop of the ball.
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