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slogger72N/O
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Topic: Batting DiscussionPosted: 02 July 2006 at 5:18pm |
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So in other words you did a Upul Tharanga
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Ck_spin
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Posted: 02 July 2006 at 9:20pm |
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Upul Tharanga??
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TCA123
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Posted: 03 July 2006 at 12:31pm |
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but whether he meant that is debatable !
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:54am |
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Let's discuss each others initial movements now. What type of movement do each of you have just before the bowler releases the ball?
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TCA123
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 3:06pm |
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raising the back lift and getting ready to move foreward, being on your toes to stay back. |
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Paul Alcock
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 4:37pm |
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I seem to take a step forward onto the front foot as it's easy to come onto the back foot for a shot if necessary.
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 10 July 2006 at 11:29am |
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Mine is a slight shift of weight onto my front foot then I shift onto the backfoot if I have to play a shot on the backfoot, if not I stay on my front foot and play the selected stroke.
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TCA123
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Posted: 10 July 2006 at 10:02pm |
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I tend to have a high backlift to a fast bowler because it makes it easier to 'punch' the ball without too much effort. Obviously situations dictate little changes to my trigger movement depending on what kind of bowler is bowling.
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ozzie001
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 12:06am |
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I try to stay as still as possible then transfer my weight to my to the front foot as the bowler delivers the ball. As mentioned in other posts I also find it easy from this position to play from either front or back foot whilst still watching the ball closely. |
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 12:44am |
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I also have a high backlift and an unorthodox grip, so I get lots of power from punching/driving the ball, whether it hits the top of the bat, or the bottom of the bat. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 1:15am |
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You seem more of a Indian than an aussie. Strange it is. My is to carry my backfoot across then my front foot a little forward before the bowler release then when he releases the ball , I then either continue to go forward , or ease backwards for the shorter balls or even stay dead on the spot for backward of a lenght deliveries. I don't go forward for balls on my leg stump though no matter if it is a drive cause I flick um. |
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 1:27am |
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How so? It's just how I bat. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 2:22am |
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thats the trigger movement the indians use. Thats what I meant. I know its unorthodox of an aussie so thats why I said that.
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 2:27am |
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Ah, right. That's the movement I grew up using so I guess it is kind of weird to some people for an Aussie to be using an indian movement.
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 2:33am |
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thats what I meant mate , spot on.
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 2:44pm |
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I do a flick on the legside. It gets me runs and frequently gets me out. For example take a match not too long ago. First ball i leaned and flicked it for 4 off my leg stump. Two balls later i do the exact same movement, miss the ball and legstump is gone. I think it's because my head falls over. |
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 3:04am |
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Your leg stump is gone because your not well balanced when executing the shot. Balance is the key to scoring lots of runs and your head probably isn't straight.
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dips_december
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 5:00am |
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I have a slight backlift and shuffle across a bit .
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 7:36am |
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You know the Sri Lankan batsman, Harmi, hit him on the head (well, the helmet) and it went for 4 |
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Posted: 13 July 2006 at 9:08pm |
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Iam a right hand batsman I have a tendency to play a lot in the sqaure, third-man and gully areas.. and am restricted when it comes to drives or on-side People who watched me bat mentioned that the moment ball is released by the bowler, my left foot is going back (subconsciously - i seem to be making space for the cut shot on the off) Is this my trigger movement - how do i correct this |
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crick
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Posted: 13 July 2006 at 11:11pm |
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if it is your trigger movement without knowing it then the only way to change it would be to conciously not move it, or move it in the correct direction and repeating it till you are used to the new one by use of throw downs, which way is your foot moving? i.e. toward leg, towards the stumps, toward off? or a combination of 2?
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boo ha ha!
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Posted: 23 July 2006 at 7:31am |
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I also forgot to mention that you're eyes aren't level, if they aren't, it takes longer for your brain to process incoming information. That's why balance is very important. |
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Posted: 24 July 2006 at 11:33am |
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I would say much more behind square. Are you getting caught a lot behind the wicket? Are you opening the blade when you play to gully. I'd suggest trying to play as straight as possible. |
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nishy
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Posted: 24 July 2006 at 3:54pm |
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ozzie001 I rarely get caught behind - I play very late - and yes open the bat to gully.. What i have noticed is when the ball pitches a little full on the middle and cuts in - I get bowled - basically like a sitting duck |
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 6:33am |
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Cover your gate in between bat and pad up.
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Posted: 25 July 2006 at 2:06pm |
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Yeah keep the gap between bat and pad tight. Could anybody give me some advice on whereabouts i should use the sweep shot against off spinners. When bowling over the wicket the ball rarely pitches on leg so should i not be sweeping? |
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mikeeboy
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Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:23am |
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You should be sweeping on length, not line. If you pick the right length each time, you should always make contact thus avoiding any potential lbw.
If you're only sweeping when the ball is on leg stump, if the ball isn't quite full enough you risk getting top edges. Edited by mikeeboy |
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mikeeboy
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Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:30am |
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I used to have a trigger movement of moving my back foot back. I was awesome on the back foot, especially pull shots, anything just short of a length could be whipped over square leg. Couldn't hit a cover drive though. Then I had a season full of lbws with the ball keeping low, so I consciously changed my initial movment to a small forward press. My defense became rock solid, and the cover drive my best shot, but my pull shot is now terrible. With no confidence of the bounce, and my weight on the front foot, I've often been caught at mid wicket, high on the bat. Cut shots aren't bad but occasionally get caught at gully. My head also started falling to the off side, which meant missing out on the legside freebies. Overall, I'm a better player because of it, but can't find anything comfortable enough to play all shots with the same efficiency. |
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Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:36am |
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That also happened to me mikeeboy. I had a season of lbw's which ticked me off, after looking back and fixing the problems, I became a better and more technical player. The only thing is, I didn't use that movement.
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