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    Posted: 26 February 2007 at 6:18am

A beamer ball was delivered and Batsman got undreneath it,unfortunately it hit the stumps.it was bowled by a slow bowler.whts the opinion abt tht,batsman
can be given out or notout.

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If the ball passed the batsman above his shoulders in his normal stance, then it's a no ball, if it was below then it's a fair ball.
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Takes some doing to 'get under' a ball hitting your stumps - I think you'll find it's a full tossnot a beamer.
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Above the waist will be considered as a Beamer,hence it will be called as a no ball.
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Originally posted by wrong un

Above the waist will be considered as a Beamer,hence it will be called as a no ball.
 
Incorrect!
 
If the bowler was judged by the umpire to be a fast bowler then it would be a no ball, but for a slow bowler a no ball is call above the shoulder. 
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its like on cricket 07 when you bowl a loopy one, and you can actually bowl the batsmen over his head
 
im pretty sure thats a no ball
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I think he is talking about a slower ball yorker that Chris Read ducked that hit his stumps, should be able to find it on you tube.
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Originally posted by Kerm

I think he is talking about a slower ball yorker that Chris Read ducked that hit his stumps, should be able to find it on you tube.
 

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I think he is talking about a slower ball yorker that Chris Read ducked that hit his stumps, should be able to find it on you tube.
Surely by definition it is impossible to duck under a yorker?
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Depends how small you are.

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Originally posted by fishcake14

Originally posted by Kerm

I think he is talking about a slower ball yorker that Chris Read ducked that hit his stumps, should be able to find it on you tube.
 
Ah, he ducked into a yorker and was bowled around/through his legs.
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Read the thing properly. Honestly lad.... Tongue

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Originally posted by fishcake14

Read the thing properly. Honestly lad.... Tongue
What 'thing' - could you be slightly more specific, or is it beyond you?
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This 'thing'? ...........
Originally posted by wrong un

A beamer ball was delivered and Batsman got undreneath it,unfortunately it hit the stumps.it was bowled by a slow bowler.whts the opinion abt tht,batsman
can be given out or notout.

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Got it in one WG. Well done.

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You misread it ehh?  Never mind, one day you'll learn not to open your mouth for fear of sticking your feet in it.
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LOL.. Don't mess with W.G.
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I assumed that was discussing a foreign cricketer called Undre Neath =p
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**groans**
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If a ball hits the stumps directly its not a no ball, so no matter how the batsmen evaded it, under, over, besides, along, behind, beneath, around ,towards, bacwards, etc etc etc, he is out by cricket law.
so far so good!
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I have to disagree there wiseguy, I know it's unlikley scenario but if a ball is lobbed high by a slow bowler and it's passes above a batsmens shoulders in his normal stance and lands on the top of the stumps, it is a no ball. The old donkey drops we used to call them, not seen very often these days.
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But initial question was regarding a beamer, and obviously if a ball hits the top of stumps straight, its not a beamer, not a no ball and the batsmen has to go back. IF I remmeber exactly the ball is declared a no ball once it has passed the stumps without hitting them offcourse!
so far so good!
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Originally posted by W.G.

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Someone lacks a real sense of humour, or perhaps your just thrown off by the fact I made a joke about a spelling mistake rather then trying to make that person feel insignifigant and stupid.
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Interestingly I wondered how the ruling would be if a batsmen charges down the wicket three or four steps to a bowler, and he scoops the ball very high but it lands before the stumps and hits them.
so far so good!
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Well I imagine it would be the batsmens shoulder height from the crease so as long as it loops down before then it might be acceptable, I wouldnt want to try accuracy with a ball like that however.
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Originally posted by Kerm

Originally posted by W.G.

**groans**


Someone lacks a real sense of humour, or perhaps your just thrown off by the fact I made a joke about a spelling mistake rather then trying to make that person feel insignifigant and stupid.
Or perhaps I was sharing that joke with someone I find quite funny but whom I didn't realise would be too thick to spot it %20...%20Shift+R%20improves%20the%20quality%20of%20this%20image.%20CTRL+F5%20reloads%20the%20whole%20page.
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Originally posted by Kerm

Originally posted by W.G.

**groans**


Someone lacks a real sense of humour, or perhaps your just thrown off by the fact I made a joke about a spelling mistake rather then trying to make that person feel insignifigant and stupid.
In all seriousness, if you are suggesting I have ever done that I would like a link to the appropriate thread, as to my knowledge it is not the kind of thing I do.
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Originally posted by W.GIn all seriousness, if you are suggasting I have ever done that I wood like a link to the appropriete thred, as to my nowledge it is not the kind of thing I do. [/QUOTE

 
 
That enough for you? Tongue


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It's OK Fishy, no-one could make you look any more insignificant and stupid
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Perhaps so, but I'll live longer than you.

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