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    Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:18pm

a thread for all us bowlers really spin & pace

i was wondering how i can become a cleverer bowler bowler
 
eg bowling to "plans"
 
chaning how i bowl, depending on the batsmen
 
changing my bowling to suit different pitchs
 
im a leg spinner, but anybody else whos wondering about anything fell free to post
 
 
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Don't go at the batsman's pace. If a team needs to chase down runs quickly, then go slowly and take your time, and vice versa.

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I'm not sure to be fair its something you can develop, some players can use more ability to get a batsman and others have to use their brains more, however experience to a degree can help. If you have been in a situation before then you can know what to do/ what not to do.

As for bowling plans well I tend to bowl an off cutter as my stock ball with the occasional straight one in for variety, I wouldnt mind expanding on this and developing a decent leg cutter so I could develop bowling plans, particularly to right handers, left handers I already cause problems to.


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A more clever bowler do you mean?
 
For a legspinner it is key to bowl to the conditions. What I mean by this is that if the pitch is turning a bit then utialise this, pitch it around leg stump and spin it across the batsman to try and induce the edge. This plan should work when the pitch is turning as the line will disrupt the batsman and make him play against the spin which should trouble him when you are first introduced to the attack.
 
The second thing is to bowl the right length. Too short and he will smash you over seg leg, too full and the bowl won't spin. In saying this it is better to be in the full side and he won't find it easy to sweep you if your turning it along way, bringing into play the 'bowled around the legs' as Warne did to Pietersen in the Ashes. In your context though try and make the most of a turning pitch by bowling from leg to around middle stump, any wider and the batsman will find it easy to cut you away if your too short and leave the bowl alone if your to full.
 
If the pitch is not turning then you have a good chance of taking wicket if you have another bowl in your armery. A wrong'un or top spinner are essential in getting wickets on a flat deck as the batsman will expect the ball to turn a little bit but will be surprised if you can turn it the other way or make the ball jump up at him. Bowl the wrong'un around off stump so he thinks it will be a standard leg spinner but will actually turn back in and might get him bowled or lbw if it comes out right. Practice your wrong'un a lot, as you will probably bowl less in a match situation so it is harder to employ. The top spinner is important also. Try and really get the bowl to kick up at the batsman as this can be just as effective as spin.
 
Bowling to the conditions as said is important. But bowling to the match situation is very understated. Often bowler go out there and bowl the same as they would given any context of the match. This is crucial when being a spin bowler.
 
Good spin bowlers can tie up one end when the run rate is high. By slowing the run rate down you aplly pressure to the batsman which makes it easier to force a mistake. Make sure you bowl to your field and if you can bowl defensively. Trust me wickets will come, from either end if this is done.
 
One way to employ this is to make sure you have your best fieldsman in the positions you want. By havig them their there is not only the chance for a catch or half chance but often batsman try and froce singles when the run rate has been slowed down and wickets will come. If the batsman is set then try you have to make sure you bowl to your field, bog him down and throw in a big spinning leggie or a wrong-un to surprise him. The ONLY way this will work is bowling several dot bowls first and keeping your wrong-un or big turning leggie for when you need it as bowling them all the time will become predictable.
 
Talk to your captain before each time you bowl and discuss what you want o achieve. If you want to capture a batsman ask your captain where you think he has a weakness or where you think he hasn't played a lot of shots. The Captain of a side should always been analysing a game picking up on this kind of stuff to assist his bowlers.
 
By being a leg spin bowler you must be attacking and take wickets, that is your job. However many leg spinners bowl half overs. What I mean by this is 2 or 3 good delivers then a half tracker. Bowl at least four delivers you know you can pitch in the right areas and then try something once or twice and over depending on the skill or temperament of the batsman. In your first 4 overs keep the run rate down and try very little, once you have your rythem then it is time to try and rip a couple, doing this at the start can upset your rythem and allow batsman to get on top of you and make it hard for you to settle.
 
Good luck with this bit of info, let me know how you get..
Good one Graham!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pietersen Fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 February 2007 at 7:11pm
thanks alot bond some great advice there

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If you don't have a great brain, you won't be a clever bowler. Ever wonder why Warnie out smart so many.

In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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He's got a great cricket brain but he's as thick as two short planks when it comes to writing a sentence, so I'm told.
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It depends how many games you've played as well.  The more games you've played, the more experience you'll gather and so you'll have experienced different situations.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pietersen Fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 February 2007 at 10:19pm
icouldn't agree more, but im still not joining your "club"
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dhoom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 February 2007 at 10:25pm
i think you will obviously know who is good at playing you ( i mean playing spin and who is not once they come to bat). if some one is slogging you take him off strike, set your field far give a single and hope you bowl a good one to give only a single not a six, and trouble the others, thats what clever people do, you need to realise your opponnents strengths and not get frustrated, get him of strike it always works they will surely get frustrated after few overs and surely will do something silly and remember some day you will play him again on a good spinning pitch and try and make his life difficult then.
well the above one is just an example, and if your captain is old imean around 30, listen to him he might have played and seen more than you not to worry you will reach that age some day, if you have not already crossed  it. by the way iam not a captainWink
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as a bowler u always need to have an alternative delivery except to ur top delivery so the cleverer u r the cleverly u make the batsman search for ur deliveries and thus making his work harder as well as gaining respect for urself
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