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matthewthorn
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Topic: becoming a faster bowlerPosted: 04 August 2006 at 12:34am |
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hi at the moment i am a standard medium pace bowler.. i am 16 years of age, but i feel if i want to become good enough to represent my first team (i play for a first division welsh team) i need to become quicker.. could anybody help me by telling me what areas of the body to strengthen , and what excersies to strengthen those areas, also if there are any other ways( eg, practices, techniques) to get me bowling quicker..
thanks very much ..
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 04 August 2006 at 6:34am |
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I think you'd need lots of Iron and milk. You could also trying finding the suitable action to help you bowl a bit quicker.
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Posted: 04 August 2006 at 5:39pm |
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As a fast bowler , You need to strenghten the arms and chest. Try doing push ups to start off with and then you can go to the gym. Jogging builds the muscles as well and swimming , it strenghtens all over the body. Go to the thread strenghtening the body with excersise for more tips. Also , try bowling with a quick action to give more pace. Remember , speed is measured at the point of release so the quicker you release the ball the quicker it is. |
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Middle It!
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Posted: 04 August 2006 at 9:01pm |
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If you get height by keeping your back leg straight and almost standing up completely when you bowl you will find that you will get a lot more pace. I know I did. by the way this info came from a coach at the Oval.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 05 August 2006 at 12:37am |
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Thats good. I am a fast bowler and this thread has helped me quite a bit. Keep going guys.
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crick
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Posted: 05 August 2006 at 1:16am |
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whilst strength is important, i think rhythm and flexibility are more improtant, if you look at most the fast bowlers today, only simon jones and brett lee and shoiab have alot of strength behind them, but harmi, ntini, steyn, mgrath, flintoff etc all use rhythm, basically without the rhythm, the strength isnot goin to help much!
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Ashley
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 5:29pm |
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Hiya, im mainly a batsman but do bowl right arm medium and have had some success bowling like this but, i am very keen to become a genuine fast bowler. I have an 11 pace run-up but it doesn't really generate alot of pace for me, but i do not sprit it, and i don't really follow through alot, but i don't feel the need to with the pace at which im bowling and my pace doesn't make me follow through. Can i get some help on bowling faster, including everything from my run up to my action, and i will not hesitate to change my action for that extra pace. when i say i bowl medium pace, i am 15 and bowl at around 60 mph. thanks alot, Ashley |
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UKKiwi
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 5:34pm |
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Posted: 20 August 2006 at 11:45am |
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Ashley - Make sure you get access to a good coach this is very important in developing an efficient bowling technique and avoiding injury. You will need to develop your strength and fitness to maximise your pace. Remember though you should above all strive for accuracy and consistency. Control and accuracy are much more important than an extra few mph.
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MP12
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 3:28am |
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You need to have upper body strength but it's no good being fast if you can't bowl accuratly
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Alfie103
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Posted: 02 October 2006 at 9:14pm |
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heya everyone, just starting experimenting with fast bowling after becoming frustrated with off-spin (not being able to turn it Very funny). Just can't seem to be very accurate. Any tips would be appreicated as i am very inexperienced.
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barfbag
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 7:16am |
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Chin Music
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:26am |
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MATTHEW: youre only 16, youll probably get quite a bit faster naturally over the next 3-4 years anyway. Apart from that, id say the key is in your action much more than in strenghthening muscle groups - if you can, talk to a qualified coach about the mechanics of your particular action.
You could always try studying the actions of fast bowlers and comparing it to yours (if you can get someone to video you bowling from different angles this will be very useful), for example if you watch Shoaib Akhtar youll see how much he bends his back just as he comes in to his delivery stride. In fact, Shaoib doesnt just bend his back he seems to bend everything back as far as it will go (back, shoulder, elbow, wrist) and then snap it all forward at once ASHLEY: 11 paces doesnt sound like enough to generate genuine pace, you should try encreasing it HOWEVER its important to keep your rhythm. You must have a settled runup and action which is the same every time or youll never get the pace you want, or any accuracy. Every bowlers different, but i personally think the best way to achieve speed is to star fairly slow and accelerate into my runup, so i hit full speed as i go into my delivary stride, slam my front foot down hard (this is key) and put everything ive got into pushing my arm through. I also like to "drive up" into my delivery stride, ie i start my run up slightly crouched and straighten as i get momentum Edited by Chin Music |
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Alfie103
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:00pm |
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Alfie103
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:00pm |
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What speed do you think you need to bowl to take wickets. at a village cricket standard of course
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Chin Music
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 12:17pm |
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village cricket, top man! I grew up with village cricket, before my di£k Whittington-style move to The Big Smoke (im not mayor yet, but give it time...). Whereabouts in the country are you playing?
As regards your question, i have no idea about relating speed to an MPH measurement - ive never been measured and never seen anyone measured. Anything considered genuinely quick at decent club level will take wickets at village green standard, my mate took shedloads this year because he played below his own standard for his village team. From my experience of village cricket the technical skill of most batsmen is fairly limited and 90% of batsmen will have at least one glaring deficiency. My advice is to bowl straight, think about a batsmans weakness and bowl at it consistently - at that level, especially in short (40-over) games, many more batsmen get themselves out than are beaten by a jaffer. If you think about it, a frustratingly large portion of wickets at that standard on those types of pitches are taken by nothing-bowlers, slow-medium seamers who do a tiny bit off the pitch and bowl on a spot all day, because batsmen try to hit them and cant - maybe you want to be that bowler, if you can deal with the soul-destroying boredom of being that type of bowler...i know i couldn't! Also, if you commit to that then your chances of stepping up a level and being successful are very limited |
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Alfie103
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 4:44pm |
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I am playing in Essex, around the Chelmsford area, playing one of the lowest leagues
. I used to live in London myself but moved out couple of years ago. That is why i haven't had a lot of cricketing experience. I would like to move up to play better standard of cricket and learn to swing the ball and bowl at about 70mph at least. any tips again?
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Chin Music
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 5:19pm |
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Regarding speed, ive written what i think earlier in this post so i cant be fagged to write it again! What ive described is how i bowl, and im pretty fast.
The key to swing is in two areas, the action and the wrist position. Basically, most people who swing the ball have a natural action that helps swing one way, not many people can swing equally both ways. In general a more side-on action swings away and a more front-on one swings in, however this is not always the case as it depends on the peculiarities of a given bowler. I think more important to swing is the wrist position. First of all, for either type of swing, the wrist should be cocked and FIRM, and its absolutely crucial that the seam is straight (try bowling in nets with one of those balls thats half red and half white to check your seam position...) When it comes to bowling in- or out-swingers, the slightest change in your wrist position makes all the difference. It is really hard to describe how without showing you but ill do my best! The basic principle, if this makes any sense, is for your fingers to FOLLOW THE DIRECTION YOURE HOPING THE BALL TO SWING as you release it, whilst keeping the seam straight (this doesnt mean the seam has to be vertical just that it doesnt wobble) So, hold up your wrist, cocked, it would be when you bowl. Assuming youre a right-handed bowler, tilting your hand to the LEFT so the seam is at a slight angle (whilst keeping the wrist firmly locked) gives you the position for an INSWINGER while tilting to the right is the position for an outswinger. You may well find that, as long as you cock your wrist, you bowl one type of delivery naturally without thinknig about this, if so work on that first and make it your stock ball. Once youre comfortable with that, you might want to work on changing the wrist position every now and then as a surprise delivary - ive always bowled outswing, but just at the end of last season i started to develop an inswinger after ten years of not being able to, simple because i changed my wrist position by probably not more than an inch I hope this made some sense to you, i know i rambled a bit! If you like ill try and get some photos up to show what i mean, but really the best thing you can do is to have a couple of sessions with a good coach if youre lucky enough to know one and he will be able to show you |
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SYEDADNAN
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Posted: 19 November 2006 at 3:49pm |
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I want to bowl faster, Iam 5ft 5" at the age of 36, Iam left handed stylish batsman who can play any kind of bowling specially fast bowling and always score good runs mush faster than any of my team mate and regtarded as good batsman , but I like to be fast bowler too.I can bowl anywhere on the pitch but not fast the bowl gets slower when it drops out of my hands. Please advise what to do?
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fishcake14
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Posted: 20 November 2006 at 8:01pm |
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What do spinners need? Just strong wrists and shoulders? Sorry if this is a bit off the beat and track, I didn't exactly want to make a new thread! Edited by fishcake14 - 20 November 2006 at 8:01pm |
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Posted: 23 November 2006 at 7:43pm |
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hi. im 14 years and i am a gentle medium pace bowler andi want to be an allrounder. any tips for genarating more pace? do you run in faster or you do something esle when you are trying to bowl that little bit faster?
any tips would be a great help.
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I see kids with a 20 m run up where they sprint all the way. I have a measured 17 step run up and have had since I was 14. For 14 years i have nown it and sometimes to worry the batsman, run in with my eyes shut I know it so well. Summation of forces is the key to bowling fast. Building to a point so when you release the ball your body explodes. pitter patter, jog, momentum, stride, last two steps flat out to delivery stride and always bend your back. I was taught to try and bury the ball into the pitch. For a while my swing left me because I was trying to hit the pitch so hard. Half a season and I was back bowling my best but quicker.
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 11:11am |
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I want to get good at pace bowling. This is mainly because I cant spin the ball :p not alot anyway. I was just wondering whats the best tactic to use when bowling as a pace bowler. Should I make the ball bounce up, go for yorkers or what?
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 1:48pm |
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Don't go for yorkers and bouncers when you start, focus on line and length, only use variations like yorkers when you have got your line and length sorted.
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 7:52pm |
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thats what i do just try to bowl line and length and wen u get more into it you can vary it like bowling bouncers but i never bowl bouncers anyway
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 11:48pm |
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If you can keep the line tight then sooner or later the batsmen will
make a mistake. slight variations in pace, length and ect is a good way
to start to add a bit of variety and after that if your confident you
can get the ball to cut about a bit which assuming you hit the spot
will cause hell for thats batsmen, its hugely underated.
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cricket_mstr
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Posted: 27 January 2007 at 10:28am |
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Yes but this begs the question, how can u tell how fast your actually bowling??? I'm no maths genius so does anyone know how you can calculate your speed using a stop watch and tape measure??
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Get someone to stop watch you bowling and you get 45 and divide the time it took so
45 / 0.8 = 56mph To break the 100mph mark you have to get the ball from crease to crease in 0.45 seconds. Edited by Kerm - 27 January 2007 at 6:14pm |
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Chin Music
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That won't be comparable to the speeds you see on TV though, since that is measured out the hand, measured over 22 yards it will slow down considerably, especially off the pitch.
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Thats true but you can time it on TV as well to compare it, wont be as accurate on TV but as they are bowling faster so its harder to time but you can work it out close enough.
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