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MP12
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Topic: Beep/Shuttle Run TestPosted: 03 October 2007 at 12:51pm |
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For those who are unfamiliar, the beep/shuttle run test involves running between two points, 20 metres apart whilst keeping in time with a beep. As you progress through each level the beep intervals get shorter. Eventually, you will tire out or will not be able to keep up with the pace. It's a stamina test.
As you know a cricket pitch is also 20 metres. My question is this an appropriate test for cricket players to run between wickets? Is it already a program being put into action by cricket players? Does it represent someones stamina to a full extend or does it come down to sheer determination? As a minimal requirement for Navy officers is 9.2. What would be an appropriate level for cricketers? |
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 03 October 2007 at 6:14pm |
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I know cricketers do this and I think most can get to 15 or 16, which is incredibly hard to get to, I manage about 13 but theres a big difference in those levels
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inswinger
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Posted: 03 October 2007 at 7:00pm |
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i dont know the level apropriate for cricket but doing the bleep test is extreemly good for testing or improving your fitness.
im sure it will help running between the wickets a huge amount if you are good at it. you need stamina for batting. especially if your looking for all those quick singles. plus having to concentrate on every shot you play. |
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bondy
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 2:40am |
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Anything above 14 and you're doing very well. For cricketers, though, I don't think the fitness levels need to be as high as others sports.
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Good one Graham!
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:52am |
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i think fitness is coming into cricket more and more, quite a lot of cricketers are good athletes now. Not as good as in most other sports though.
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:21am |
Fitness improves concentration, and as cricketer's are expected to concentrate for prolonged periods of time, then it is vital. |
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bondy
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:42am |
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the correlation between fitness and concentration isn't as strong as one's mental capabilities. Take Mark Richardson for example, he wasn't fit but had exceptional concentration.
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Good one Graham!
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:52am |
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Exception rather than the rule?
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 8:23am |
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The Beep test is used to work how 'fit' you are through calculating your Max VO2 or something very similar. It should not be used as a training method, just as a tool to see how far you have improved from your training.
" I know cricketers do this and I think most can get to 15 or 16, which is incredibly hard to get to" Just to know how tough this is to get to, this is the level the likes of Richie McCaw do. |
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 8:37am |
Obviously, it helps you run between wickets but is it necessary? Would you not benefit more from training in the nets whilst running in match conditions. The beep test involves running continuously, in match you won't be running singles every ball, you have time to rest between each delivery there-fore not that helpful at all. |
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 10:25am |
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Training is all about specificity, replicating match conditions as much as possible. Rotating the strike every ball/second ball in the nets would be better training than the beep test. Out of the nets, mark out the 20 meters, sprint to one end, then the other then back again, rest for 30-45 seconds and do it again. Vary the way you turn so your practising turning to face the side the ball went to.
As you improve, increase the times you go from end to end to 4-5-6, increasing the rest period as you go though. |
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:11pm |
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well im not saying train on the bleep test. thats just dumb. but if you are good at it will help your cricket
a god one for fitness is get somewhere the length of say a junior rugby feild. then jog half way. jog back. run half way. jog back. sprint halfway. walk back. do that for a bit then just keep running the length of the field but in intervals of jog sprint and some walking. then have a lone sprint to finish. i did that in PE and i feel so much fitter. felt terrible whilst doing it tho.... |
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 1:19am |
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Thats more or less Fartlek training, and is more specific to you running around the field for fielding but would cross train to running between the wickets quite a bit i guess.
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 1:06pm |
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"Suicides" a killer, no pun intended. I can't remember the deatils of how it works, no recollection the last time I did it.
Speed is more important in running between wickets. As long as you can run 100 metres average an over, then you should be fine. Plus the fact that boundaries are always an option. Turning whilst running is essential in cricket as in the beep test. I suppose you could run the test with a bat in your hand. |
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 8:26pm |
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good idea
and oh god "suicides" my god do they kill (no wonder they are called suicides) ![]() take rugby pitch you would jog to the 20 metre. jog back. jog to half way. jog back. jog full length. jog back. then do that running. then sprinting. it can be changed and modified depending on how intense you need it to be but its damn hard. also yeah turning quickly is really important. suicides are good for that acctually. |
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Ali Malik
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Posted: 06 October 2007 at 8:12pm |
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it won't help much, sprinting is much better. as you don't have to keep up with a beep whilst running its just flat out.
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Posted: 06 October 2007 at 10:32pm |
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please tell me how just running flat out is any help to cricket or any other sport??
in sport you need to have the skill of being able to turn, change pace, jog walk and run all in a short space of time ect. running flat out is not good if you are trying to train or get fitter for sports such as cricket, rugby hockey, football. |
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Posted: 07 October 2007 at 12:49am |
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Exactly to be able to change speeds is vital. Take hockey for example, no point sprinting when your opponent is at a jogging speed.
Take into account that you would burn up a lot more energy if you constantly ran at the same speed rather than changing speeds. |
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Posted: 07 October 2007 at 2:24am |
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Don't ever just sprint if your training for taking runs, its not specific at all to what you do in cricket. Interval training though, were you do sprint, but the distance of a pitch is very specific and will improve your performance. It also increases your aerobic ability a bit so you can jog for longer around the field (getting back into position or whatever) without getting as tired.
Just refer to my 2nd post in this thread for a better idea. |
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Posted: 17 October 2007 at 6:47pm |
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I found that when I did the test, I found it much easier with a bottle of water in my hand. I don't know if this is got to do with my asthma, which isn't so bad because I don't require an inhaler. Try it out, it might help you
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Posted: 17 October 2007 at 7:40pm |
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ur not meant to be allowed a water bottle because water replaces fluids and keeps you going for longer.
the test is all about stamina and if you have water with you it isn't a test of your real stamina and fittness. |
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 10:02am |
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Plus the fact that water is a source of oxygen.
I would have thought carrying a drink bottle whilst running would slow you down a fraction. It would be a distraction. |
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