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    Posted: 02 July 2007 at 8:17am
Originally posted by The Tyke

If he's a better keeper than Sangakarra then he'll have the world at his feet. Kumar's a great keeper and a devastating batsman once he gets going.
Batting was the part that let Jayawardane down. There was never a doubt about his keeping abilities. At least that's what experts have said.
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Hard to get better than sangakarra. The recent 200 n.o. shows that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TheJaffa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2007 at 6:20am
As a batsman a can't agree with you more. As a keeper possible and there are one or two youngsters who are sublime with their gloves. Kaushal Silva is one of them, aged 20, and thought as the successor of Kumar. Better keeper than Kumar and reasonably good swashbuckling batsman.
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Sri Lanka have got it just right. Kumar in side for batting and back-up for Prassana as a keeper. BUT I still think that Kumar is the best keeper-batsman in the world, and Boucher is the best glovesman.
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Kumar gloveswork is better than Boucher.
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I would have them on par, kumar is a better batsman though.
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 Boucher has never stood to a class slow bowler and never to a talented leg spinner . Healy and Gilchrist both performed brilliantly when standing up to Warne. Sangakarra has done a good job with Murali , but in my opinion the Australians were/are tidier behind the pegs.
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Originally posted by Sledger

 Boucher has never stood to a class slow bowler and never to a talented leg spinner . Healy and Gilchrist both performed brilliantly when standing up to Warne. Sangakarra has done a good job with Murali , but in my opinion the Australians were/are tidier behind the pegs.
Quite true Sledge, that's why down here little Kalu is regarded as a better glove man than Sanga. Kalu is one of the better stumpers in cricket history, 26 stumpings off 49 test matches, which is a quite high number.

Local expertise agrees that in recent past Kalu was the best SL gloveman, and in entire SL cricket history that place goes to Mahesh Goonathilaka. He was compared with Alan Knott those days because of the  similarities in their speed to the ball that both of them were seldom seen diving for catches.

Sanga comes in the modern breed of Wicket Keeper batsman category, a trend started by ones like Parore, Brendon Kuruppu, Hashan Tillakaratne, Moin Khan, Ian Healy, Rod Marsh, Dujon etc and perfected by the trio of Gilly, Sanga and Andy Flower.
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Healy was a cat behind those stumps!!
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I would say the best wicketkeeper batsman is -Adam Gilchrist!Without any doubt he is the best!

This is how I would rank wicket-keeper batsmen 1-8 descending order.
  1. Adam Gilchrist [AUS]
  2. Mark Boucher [SA]
  3. Kumar Sangarkara [SL]
  4. MS Dhoni [IND]
  5. Brendon McCullum [NZL]
  6. Kamran Akmal [PAK]
  7. Dinesh Karthik [IND]
  8. M Prior [ENG]

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You got to be kidding, Karthik is much better than a few mentioned above him.
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Yes I think I made a mistake.He would been at the 5th spot and McCullum and Akmal move 1 spot below.   

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Still another mistake, he is better than Dhoni! Dhoni will just shine on the tracks that allows slogging. He has been to the caribbean twice and hasn't done well. I think it will be the same story when he goes to Aussie and NZ!

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Well I don't think so.Oh of coarse you have your own way of thinking.I think of him differently.He has got a great temperament and he has room for improvement!
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... and he has room for improvement!


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Yes I think I made a mistake.He would been at the 5th spot and McCullum and Akmal move 1 spot below.   

 
McCullum would go third on that list- putting him 6th is shameful and naive.
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I would have boucher just ahead of McCullum, no4 looks about right.
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In terms of batting yes, your right. If this were purely a keeping thread I'd have McCullum in 2nd spot just behind Gilchrist at this point in his career.
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 Read is streets ahead of both as a keeper , but the batting..........
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Originally posted by bondy

If this were purely a keeping thread I'd have McCullum in 2nd spot just behind Gilchrist at this point in his career.
 
I see you have forgotten someone by the name of Sangakkara then.
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My rankings would be:
1. Adam Gilchrist [AUS]
2. Kumar Sangarkara [SL]
3. Brendon McCullum [NZL]
4. Mark Boucher [SA]
5. Dinesh Karthik [IND]
6. MS Dhoni [IND]
7. Kamran Akmal [PAK]
 
M Prior [ENG]
 
I've got Karthik ahead of Dhoni because from what I've seen of them I think Karthik is better behind the stumps.
Kamran Akmal is so far down because I've not seen as much of him as the others but from what I've seen he can be a little shaky behind (and in front) of the pegs.
I'm going to wait a little while longer before I place Prior. From what I've seen so far though I expect good things but I said the same about a few others.


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Ok right, McCullum is literally like a cat behind the stumps! His ability to catch the ball at all flights is amazing, plus he has the ability to smash the ball when needed. I dont think Gilly should be no.1 at the moment, that spot should go to Sangakkara. But, thank god tyke has given justice to McCullum!
 
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 Nixon's not really in the mix any longer Sam.  I've a feeling that if Prior was injured one of Foster , Davies or Read would get a go. Nixon did really well when called upon , but time is against him and it would be a retrograde step to bring him back.
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my rankings would be: 
 
ODI                     Test
 
Gilchrist             Sangakkara
Boucher             McCullum
Dhoni                 Gilchrist
Sangakkara       Karkhtik
McCullum           Prior
Akmal                 Dhoni
N o Brien           Boucher
 
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McCullum in front of Gilly in tests......?
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Gilly hasnt really been performing in tests recently tho
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 Nixon's not really in the mix any longer Sam.  I've a feeling that if Prior was injured one of Foster , Davies or Read would get a go. Nixon did really well when called upon , but time is against him and it would be a retrograde step to bring him back.
 
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Originally posted by Monty

Gilly hasnt really been performing in tests recently tho
 
Avereged well over 40 in his last series against poms, including a dashing century.
 
Compare his numbers, Sangakarra is the only one even close out of the modern keepers.
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Sangakkara and Gilchrist are the two top keepers currently playing. No doubt about that.

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