Best ever ODI player?

Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE He couldn't play the bouncer and in ODI's they where given no-balls or wides what ever it was.

He played in the era of no-bouncers. He was a good batsman, good fielder and a nice person. But never a good leader, or an icon with an aura around, like Imran, Kapil, Viv, or Sanath. SO he's lacking in tat two departments to call him the greatest.

I have gone for Bevan, purely for the fact that he was a destructive batsman for the Aussies and averaged over 50 in ODIs, an unbelievable average for one-day international cricket, so that's why I've picked him, he never performed in the test match arena for some reason however.

Originally posted by Wal Bada We talk about best batsman, bowler and fielder in ODI s. Who's the greatest ever ODI player in cricket history. What I want is to assess batting, bowling, fielding, captaincy and personality and to vote

If we take the above criteria, obviously we are looking at someone who has batted, bowled captained a sied and also immpressed his side with his personality. Judging by that tendolkar lacks on two accounts he has a poor run as a captain, and I dont know if he had a massive influence over indian team. The person that comes to my mind is definately Imran Khan, excellent allrounder of his time, best captain for pakistan and had influenced pakistani cricket team to eventually won a world cup!

The best ever player is easy in Test cricket as Sir Garfield Sobers had the ability to change a match using the broadest range of skills we have ever seen. Not as good a bat as Bradman, not as good a bowler as lillee or O'Rielly, but the first man you would choose in any team. Who is the first player you would choose for your ODI. I could not rightly choose anyone other than Tendulker since 1990 because the standard of international bowling has dropped badly. Viv Richards was the most devastating batsman in his time against Lille and co but never had to face his team-mates. How would Ponting fair against McGrath, Lee etc. Tendulker has proven himself against the best from three decades. He is the greatest.

Originally posted by Sledger   but tell me a top side that doesn't have several great bowlers?

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There's as much chance of Hell freezing over mate!

Exactly, its impossible to find the best player, infact it would be difficult to find the best bowler, batsman or fielder unless we have clearly defined criteria!

Just looking at the long list of batsmen, if we do not have clear parameters on which to decide whos the best we will always be inclined towards personal favourites, my guide for the best would be the batting average as this has been taken as criteria for most ranking systems.

Highest runs could be other, but than the number of matches should be taken into account, most valuable player as to the number of match winning innings would need to see the oppositions also. quality of batting, technique, prownwss against fast bowlers, not outs, manner in which got out, fastest or most centuries, I dont know what will decide the best in the end.

 I believe its not easy to find the best player in ODI atleast!

Thats an unfair comparison, look at Andrew Symonds, his game wasnt suited to test cricket but that doesnt stop him from being on eof the best ODI players today.

yea,Tendulkar wouyld be the better choice.

Bevan was a good finisher of an innings , but nowhere close to being the best ever one day player!!

Clobs , maybe we should start a cricketing clinic thread that explains the skills of the game , there's an awful lot of members who are in the dark!!

Just for you a head to head comparison of Bevan with Sachin tendolkar in ODI, the upper black are of bevan and red are of tendolkar, infact I still cant find anyone with better stats in batting, and mind you these stats do not tell us the number of matches won by both players. Let me add a few more greats in gilli, richards and jones and see the comparison!

 

                 Mat   Runs   HS    BatAv  100   50    W     BB   BowlAv   5w   Ct     St

M. Bevan      232   6912   108*  53.58   6    46    36    3/36  45.97   0     69      0
Tendolkar     367  14370   186* 44.48  40   73   142   5/32  43.61   2     108    0
   Gilchrist     242  8233     172   36.42   14   45    -    ---  --------------     348   45
 Viv Richards 187  6721     189*  47.00  11   45    118  6/41   35.83  2      100   0
Dean Jones   164  6068     145   44.61   7    46      3    2/34   27.00  0      54    0
  

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Micheal bevan has been the best ODi batsman in the history of cricket, wasim has been the best bowler and jonty has been the best fielder! As far as allrounders are concerned we may have a tie between, pollock, kallis and freddie as to who is the best!

spinners we will again have a tie between murali, vetorri, saqlain and harbhajan to who is the best!

Sachin arguably the best batsman in the cricket history but head to head he falls behind Beavan in ODI!

Wasims Ststs are amazing.Simply ELECTRIFYINg,more then 1000 wikks in first class.wow he's really a class bowler.

I'd have wasim on my team anyday