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crapbag
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Topic: Best ever ODI player?Posted: 04 September 2008 at 3:58pm |
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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 5:38am |
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Adam Gilchrist is best ODI player. He is aggressive Batsman along with batting and also wicket keeping. He was considered as a best wicket keeper and batsman in the historty of the game. He holds many records both ODI and test matches.
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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 4:04pm |
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Gilchrist being retired might have somthing to do with that.
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Posted: 05 September 2008 at 4:53pm |
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There was once a time when Sangakkara keeping looked brilliant, sadly, for the last few years, it was no where near Gilly! Sangakkara definitely comes no where as a better ODI player than Gilchrist, even when his keeping form was good! Sangakkara might pop ahead of Gilly in some test teams though, certainly can't argue with that.
As for Dhoni, he's playing very good at the moment. Surely can be a better ODI player than Gilly but have a long way to go to be able to match Gilly in test. Edited by spin wizard - 05 September 2008 at 4:54pm |
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 5:23pm |
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Ok here we go for the bowlers. The logic is simple. In ODIs average, strike rate and economay rate all has a say. I gave equal importnce to them.
Then as for the bastmen, I've calculated relative averages, strike rates and economay rates for each bowler. The ratios between averages, SR. and ERs of a partucular bowler and rest of the bowlers in the worls that were playing during his career calculated. Then the Longetivity Index (LI) was calculated using number of balls bowled. The equation I used is 1 + ((B - 5000) / 50000. The average of ratios were multiplied by LI to get the final points. The top 25 ODI bowlers are as following |
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Posted: 10 September 2008 at 5:26pm |
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 12:19am |
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I would have thought Warne was higher than that!
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 5:30am |
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That's a near perfect list with a very few notable absentees. Fanie De villiers is one.
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Posted: 11 September 2008 at 3:57pm |
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Next, the test bowlers. Similar theory was used to compare them. That is comparing bowlers Average, Sr and ER to the rest of the bowlers who were playing in the same period as him. But unlike in ODIs where I gave equal importance to Average, ER and SR, the weight is different. Strike rate is the most important in Tests. I would take a bowler who's going to deliver 10-0-40-3 over a bowler who will do 20-5-40-3. Hence, SR carries a weight of 2.0. Average carries a weight of 1.5. Economy rate 0.5
Example: Player: Muttiah Muralitharan 1992-2008 Wickets: 756, Avg: 21.96, SR: 54.2, ER: 2.42. From 1992-2008, bowlers have bowled 1405324 deliveries, giving away 687481 runs and taking 20997 test wickets. This gives a Global Average(GA) of 32.74, Global SR (GSR) of 66.93 and Global Economay Rate (GER) of 2.94 during Murali's career. The Avrage of all bowlers in test cricket is 31.49, SR - 70.90 and ER - 2.66. Based on that Murali has an Adjusted Avg, SR and ER of 21.12, 57.42 and 2.19. These are 1.550, 1.388 and 1.166 times better than the global values. The combined value calculated as (1.55 * 1.5 + 1.388 * 2 + 1.166 * 0.5)/4. Longetivity index was calculated using number of deliveries bowled. (Balls - 20000) / 100000 was used. For pre 1935 playes 25% added to the points because of the difficult situations they were faced with. Inclusion criteria was at least 3000 deliveries. |
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 6:50am |
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Fred at number 4 - there might be something to these tables afterall !
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 6:57am |
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For some reason I cant view this list on my screen. Can anybody do me the favor and paste the same?
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 5:48pm |
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 5:50pm |
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Anyhow, not a bad list at all. Some top class bowlers there!
Wait, on second thoughts, no - just where is Micheal Holding???
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 6:55pm |
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Posted: 16 September 2008 at 4:19am |
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Thanx SW..did not help though.
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Posted: 16 September 2008 at 2:00pm |
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Try this Zuhair
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3236/top30testbowlersut0.jpg Edited by crapbag - 16 September 2008 at 2:01pm |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 16 September 2008 at 9:11pm |
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Ok zuhair - check your web browser settings and what add ons have been disabled and enable them, that might do the trcik.
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Posted: 17 September 2008 at 4:25am |
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Thanx SW...that did it :D
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