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    Posted: 24 November 2007 at 8:52am
My question is about the pace bowlers runup. I hear that it gets you most of your pace. A coach has advised me to change my runup because I'm running in flat footed and it's not getting me any momentum into the crease.

My bowling action is perfect, nothing wrong with it, but it's my runup that's making me lose momentum. How can I fix this?
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Originally posted by RightHandBat

My question is about the pace bowlers runup. I hear that it gets you most of your pace. A coach has advised me to change my runup because I'm running in flat footed and it's not getting me any momentum into the crease.

My bowling action is perfect, nothing wrong with it, but it's my runup that's making me lose momentum. How can I fix this?
 
You'll just have to experiment with differents lengths of run-up until you find something that you feel comfortable with and at the same time gives you maximum momentum when you hit the crease. It might need shortened - sometimes having it shorter can help you gain momentum, but it might not be that, so just experiment. Big%20smile

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Hi, RightHandBatSmile since you've helped me with my sons soon to be MRF hopefully, heres some advice that Dennis Lillee gave to some well known pace bowlers such as Brett Lee, for instance:

'If you are struggling to find a regular rhythm, try this exercise: 
to into an empty field with no obstacles nearby and from a marked point, 
do a full run-up with your eyes closed. Imagine you are an old steam 
engine looking to build momentum. Walk two or thre paces, 
start to jog and gradually build up to about three quarter speed, 
thinking of the sound and action of a steam train as you are running. 
I have used this method many many times, 
and it still works wonders in bringing out smoothness.' (1955)

And heres some other advice, but I don't think you'll need it:

'Before you bowl your first ball, you must be mentally as well as physically set up. 

Making batsmen play is all important. 
If you bowl it at or just o
utside off stump, there is a genuine chance that he'll nick it, 
given that he's so keen to feel bat on ball.'

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2007 at 2:51am
Cheers for that legspinner and fishcake. My current runup length feels comfortable, but its just the flat footedness because this man said I'm not leaning forward as I'm running in and it's causing me to lose momentum.



Edited by RightHandBat - 25 November 2007 at 2:53am
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NZ_Fast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2007 at 9:27am
I certainly don't lean forward in my run up (unless im bowling into a strong headwind) and it doesnt effect my pace. As long as your action is fine, that means as much momentum as possible is being transfered to the ball anyway.

You could always just try leaning forward in your run up...........
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well. think of your run up as normal running. you need to be balanced and steady, comfortable and to be going faster you need to be on your toes, not nessicerily leaning forward but on your toes.
 
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if your action is biomechanicly perfect (which it is extreemly unlikley to be) your run-up will account for only 10% of your pace.
 
so all you need is momentum to carry your through the crease/apply enough power to get you through your action.
 
also, not nessicerily for u but someone has a side-on action the run-up should be slower than for a front on bowler.
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Are you always flat footed when you run or is it only in your bowling run up? Your coach is right leaning forward is quite important, if you watch Brett Lee from side on you will see he leans forward in his run up.
 
Originally posted by inswinger

if your action is biomechanicly perfect (which it is extreemly unlikley to be) your run-up will account for only 10% of your pace.
How did you work that one out? Not to say that isn't correct, just never heard that before.
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2007 at 7:21am
I'm only flat footed in my runup (was), but I reckon it's down to the fact where I was thinking about my runup and not running in like I usually do. I'm just running in like I normally run now with a slight forward lean now.

Basically, I'm running in naturally, I've just stopped thinking about it now.
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Originally posted by inswinger

if your action is biomechanicly perfect (which it is extreemly unlikley to be) your run-up will account for only 10% of your pace.
How did you work that one out? Not to say that isn't correct, just never heard that before. 
 
oh i didn't work it out...haha
i read it in a book z. a book that teaches bowling biomechanics...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NZ_Fast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2007 at 11:49pm
That would be fairly heavy reading wouldn't it? Learning about leavers and which muscles are contracting etc
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you would think that but no. he writes it in a very easy to read way...and its helped me soooooooooo much, im bowling alot faster im back in form and swinging it both ways more accuratley.
 
its a very useful and light hearted book which is invaluable.
 
but its not actually learning about what muscles contract and how they contract it just shows you what any fast bowler needs in his action to bowl faster, such as a full chest drive, hip snap, long and full rotation, straight lines and many more. tis good. and it talks all about every aspect of bowling, including mind set and everything...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2008 at 5:54am
Well, the runup surely feels great. I'm bowling a lot quicker then what I was a few weeks ago.

The runup is springy and I am gaining height as I'm coming into bowl, running in a straight line towards the pitch, getting the knee to brace and having the elbow lock into the torso.

It's also making me abit more deadly to face, getting more bounce then before at pace with seam movement both ways. It's great. I bowl a good length and it rises upto chest/shoulder height to a batsman. Picked up three wickets at training too.

Favourite was the one where one batsman was on strike and I kept bowling on a good length outside off and he was letting them go, so I moved to the off stump, he blocked it, then I moved my line just a fraction away and he went to block and he edged it. 1st or 2nd slip probably would've caught it. After that I decided to slip a shortish one in, he pulled it and it went right down mid wickets throat hehe.

Later on I got another wicket to another batsman bit of away swing, just a fraction to straighten down the line of offstump and he edged it behind.

Most important thing though is that everything felt good, the runup, the action, the knee bracing, elbow locking into the torso and the follow through is brilliant. Although the runup can be abit better I was told.
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youve coverd your elbow locking into your torso. if that means your chest you are blocking off alot of potential pace that your not already using. i think uve sed your 6 foot 1. so thats where your getting all your bounce and from your front knee bracing but...your front arm should be pulled down out in front of you and end up with the forearm inline with your front foot at release.
and if posible you should be acheiving a good chest drive, that will really get your bowling arm powering through like a boomerang...but that wont be able to be done unless your front arm is down by your front leg. the chest drive is not essential if your getting lots of pace already. but you are blocking pff lots of pace is your front arm is up by your chest.
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Nah, it's not my chest, it's my waist area just above the hip.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote inswinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2008 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by fishcake14

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink


fun fun fun
that would be strange...

Originally posted by RightHandBat

Nah, it's not my chest, it's my waist area just above the hip.


is that abit uncomfortable to have it just over the hip....well aslong as ur not blocking off any off ur hip drive or pace its all good!
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Originally posted by fishcake14

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink
 
my team played against a man in a wheelchair once, apparently he was quite good
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Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

Originally posted by fishcake14

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink

 

my team played against a man in a wheelchair once, apparently he was quite good



I didn't even think it was possible. Was he a batsman or bowler?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fishcake14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:46pm
Originally posted by MP12

Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

Originally posted by fishcake14

These problems would never arise if we all played wheelchair cricket... Wink

 

my team played against a man in a wheelchair once, apparently he was quite good



I didn't even think it was possible. Was he a batsman or bowler?
 
Specialist fielder all the way mate!! Wink

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