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MalhotraRaj84
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Topic: Champions League 2009 Posted: 21 October 2009 at 4:56pm |
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Gayle,Sarwan,Chanderpaul,Bravo (plus few more)..this is a good lineup for test.Aussies are not too great either in batting lineup.They have watson at top.Hussey's spot is under threat...Except for Ricky and Clarke,I don't see a dangerous Test batting lineup at the moment.Regarding bowling it is good with Hilfy,Siddle,Jhonson and Hauritz ( or Lee/Stuart infact their bowling is more powerful than batting)... you never know Jhonson radar though.
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 8:50am |
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Ponting, Clarke, North and Haddin is a strong middle order Raj, that kills the WI batting line up in comparison. Watson is in red hot form. Bat him at 6 and he'll make a lot of runs. We have a lot of top batsmen in Australia: Hughes, Jaques, Klinger, Hodge, D Hussey, Cameron White, Voges and a few others who are international quality, who don't get a regular run in the side. Australia's fast bowling stocks are brilliant, besides the 5 you mentioned Raj there's also the likes of Bollinger, Nannes, Geeves, McKay, MacGoffin, Noffke, Dorey, Tait and a couple of decent youngsters emerging. I'm quitely confident at the depth of fast bowling , batsmen and keepers in Australia, while all the youth players coming up are strong fielders (look out for Warner, he's the next Jonty or Ricky in the field). Spin bowling is going OK. Krejza from all reports has improved a hell of a lot since his debut and has been working hard during the off season. Just took a 4 for in the first first class game of the season for Tas which is a good sign. Holland might be one to look out for and there's a young man from NSW named Stephen Smith who's a leg spinning all rounder not unlike Adil Rashid of England.
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 1:28pm |
As I said Milks, if West Indies are to stand any chance of causing any sort of upset to Aussie, Edwards, Taylor and Roach have to be on fire. Edwards is bowling very well lately, Taylor has potential to get wickets (not sure why he is so up and down though) and Roach at that pace can easily run through teams.
While the batting of the Windies is talented, they don't have the stand long at the crease strength like those Aussies. Gayle, Barath, Sarwan, Chanderpaul, Bravo, Ramdin can all bat but it's pretty frustrating watching them all bar Chanderpaul fail so much when they can do so much better. Sarwan needs a bat in his head, he's so gifted and barely averages 40 in Tests.
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milkman
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 1:31pm |
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I still agree with Lara. WI have lost 8 tests in a row against Australia in Australia, they don't have the fire power to change that. Australian batsmen LOVE pace, the quicker the better. Swing is what kills them, Steyn, Jones, Wasim, etc. None of those WI boys swing the ball prodiguously on reputation. I expect Australia to win all the tests.
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 1:35pm |
Say what you want Milks, Edwards will be up after many of those Australians, if he's not injured ofcourse haha. He gave them a roughing up here last year and average well with the ball on those flat decks.
I'll say though, I fear for them in that Adelaide test, that pitch is so excellent for batting that it will take swing or some very hostile stuff to get wickets.
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 1:38pm |
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Australians have seen Edwards before and he's not unlike Tait which the Australian batsmen would have contended with in the nets and State cricket. WI need swing to win. If they swing it, they got a chance.
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 1:49pm |
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West Indians are hardly ever gonna be swing bowlers, they really on hostility and it can work, whether the team is Australia or not. Edwards for the last year or so has been quite successful because he's been very hostile, no matter who the opposition was. He average about 25 when Aussie was here in 2008. Average 54 against England on dead pitches when that average could have been cut nearly in half, due to some extremely poor fielding from his fielders, including the keeper.
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 6:32pm |
Trinidad are into the finals to meet NSW and that should be a very good game. T&T is full of flamboyant player, Ganga is the only one who can't really bash it around at a rate but he plays a perfect role in the side.
T&T will have to get out Warner or Hughes early, if both stays for some overs, they surely would have to chase something over 170. Barath will face the test of his life against Brett Lee and I'm looking forward to it.
Cobras lost today all because of poor fielding!!
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 2:11am |
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T&T look really , really spirited. Bit like the Windies, of old, the passion is there. Bravo needs to bat at 5 as he did in the semi, 3 is a bit too much pressure on him and 5 is perfect for the bloke. T&T look great chasing, bit like the Lankans of the 90s. Should be a close final, T&T have already beaten NSW once, but NSW are still an awesome side.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 5:27am |
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How well has Ganga led the side. I am really impressed by the way he has led his squad. Also - how often does a SAF team field as bad as they did?
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 1:32pm |
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It was the semi final Zuhair so a choke was always expected, it's nothing new.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 1:46pm |
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Oops I never realized that - chokers at club level as well. One reason I feel T&T are playing with such flair because these guys representing a nation unlike other teams.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 1:57pm |
Not really Zuhair, even the current Windies team if selected the correct squad, will play this good in T20's. There's hardly any West Indian batsman who has grown up not trying to beat ball all over the park. When they get to school Cricket is when they really start to play more circumspect. You remember Simmons in the T20 WC? Whoever saw him before in Test and ODI's would have thought he wasn't capable of that.
T&T is blessed with stroke makers, they are very talented players so that makes it more better for them for this format. Not to mention 2.5 million dollars on offer, just like that 20 million dollar stanford game where the players, like a West Indies team, hardly did anything wrong that night.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 2:46pm |
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T&T is football mad too, good to see they still produce some quality cricketers. Kieron Powell is a gem with the long handle, Sherwin Ganga looks a tidy 2020 sort off spinner and then you have the Bravo bros.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 2:53pm |
Barath is the man milky, he already looks a genius. Being very short exposes you to short and quick stuff, Lee will test him today.
Pollard is suspect to fast short bowling, if they're smart, they'll leave back Lee until he comes in.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 3:02pm |
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Do you reckon Spinny that in the tests Australia will go for a 4 pronged pace attack (Hilfenhaus, Siddle, Johnson, Lee)? That's what they're saying out here. I reckon if Watson plays then Hauritz should get a shot and Watson can be the 4th seamer. That means , most likely that Lee won't play. It will be interesting to see who gets picked.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 3:21pm |
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I've been very impressed with Hauritz mate, he's vastly improved. He no longer rolls over his arm, he actually has a good season position to get turn.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 3:28pm |
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He has a new found self belief. You can actually sense from him that he knows think he deserves to be playing top line cricket. He's now played against NZ and SA in tests at home, the Ashes, the CT and the CL in the last 12 months. In that time his numbers have been good and he has improved a great deal. His bowling has come along really well and he's a threat in ODI cricket. I'm impressed. I like Krejza too, he's aggressive and spins it a hell of a lot. They say he has improved a great deal so it should be good to have a couple of options. Hauritz could still be left out however.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 3:30pm |
Krejza gets dip, if he gets accuracy, I'll take that over Hauritz!
On the Gabba, if Watson plays, they should play Hauritz because they'll already have the other 3 pacers. He must be a must at adelaide though, 4 prong will be a waste there, well, maybe not against West Indies but anyteam batting good will enjoy 4 pacers there.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 3:52pm |
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WINDIES has some depth in their batting matey, they just don't have the same temperament as players from other sides. Sarwan is a bit of a Graeme Hick. He could have been the next Lara, bit of a waste. Chanders is a giant in a team of dwarfs and Gayle is too big headed. Bravo has genuine talent, but it's been a really long time since he played test cricket on a regular basis due to injuries and contract disputes.
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Posted: 23 October 2009 at 7:01pm |
Bowling win you matches and that's what happened to make NSW the champions. T&T bowling for the tournament bar Ganga and Mohammed hasn't been up to scratch. Rampaul bowled well today which wasn't the case for the whole tournament.
Brett Lee was the star today, awesome batting and bowling and catching too. Henriques took an excellent catch to remove Stewart, with him there, that runs could have been knocked off, he can beat a ball.
Pollard has vastly improved as a Cricketer in this tournament, I've never seen him bat so sensible as he's done here, that knock against NSW earlier has changed him! He's a big hitter, well, that was known already even with his brief failures on the Windies team but he's shown a bit of maturity here.
I'll say Milkman, Lee has showed very good fire in the ODI's in England, CT and now here, with his speed and form, Hilfenhaus might have to make way for him, although knowing the team is West Indies, Hilfenhaus should enjoy a very good series, Windians are clueless against swing bowling.
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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 1:49am |
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Lee is a brilliant. They were always saying he'll become an all rounder, but it never really eventuated. I thought at the start Johnson would be a bit like Lee and Warne, but he's a bit more than that. However, Lee is showing how good he really is in limited overs cricket. 5 sixes and a four in his 48 is awesome. 2/10 off 2 overs with 2 left to bowl at the end presumably is astonishing. His economy has been under 4 this CL and his form is awesome. His pace is up there as well. If he continues like this in the 7 ODI series v India he has a really good shot. I dare say that Siddle would be the man to make way for him because they are both hit the deck and pacy sort of bowlers. Albeit, I'm a fan of Siddle and I think he deserves to be in the side. It's a really tough call.
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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 7:19am |
I didn't follow this that much, but Congratulations to New South Wales Blues on becoming the champion of champions!!!  Brett Lee is back and back big time!!!
Edited by sam_ahmed - 24 October 2009 at 7:19am
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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 7:31am |
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I saw Lee's batting - it was clean and fierce hitting by him.
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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 7:37am |
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He was bowling 150kph plus yesterday too. Got 2 wickets in his 2 overs. The first was a bowled, where the batsman gave himself too much room and was cleaned up by a 150kph straight ball. The second wicket was a very good caught and bowled off a slower ball.
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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 9:38am |
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Well done to NSW - interesting that the semi-finalists were made up of teams that had no overseas players in them, although from next year T & T will likely be the only side to have not used overseas players at some point or other.
Now, how about a challenge match between NSW and the Sialkot Stallions for the 'Champion of Champions' clash?!
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Posted: 24 October 2009 at 7:09pm |
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NSW are anyhow champions of champions officially JP. I hope PAK's domestic side get a chance next year.
I forgot to congratulate T&T on a terrific tournament. The westindian side has been very impressive and I must say it goes to show that WI certainly has enough depth in international cricket, Spinny did tell us about a few of them and they sure were very impressive, that's really good because I was under the impression that in WI, cricket was no longer being taken up by the youngsters. I thought Rampaul has also developed a lot as a bowler.
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Posted: 25 October 2009 at 1:53am |
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L$$ .. I mean Lee was instrumental, Infact there was so much at stake.
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Posted: 25 October 2009 at 2:00am |
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It's a lot of money at stake. T&T won USD20mil last year with Stanford, that money has obviously gone to good use and another few million wouldn't have done them harm either! This was Lee's first time to play for NSW in 2020s. If you throw in Haddin, Bracken and Clarke this NSW side is probably better than the sides Australia has been picking internationally!
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Posted: 25 October 2009 at 2:50am |
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T&T won US$1 million milk, the Stanford Superstars (West Indies) won US$20. Someone like Mohammed is one of the richest Cricketer in the Windies, being part of all these big money winnings.
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