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zuhair_abbasi 
Number 3 Batsman 
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
 Topic: Champions Trophy 2009Posted: 28 August 2008 at 6:13am |
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DO MORE!!! That is what the Australians are going to say next april
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 28 August 2008 at 6:17am |
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That's right zuhair. There appears to be greater efforts in winning
control of the country by the two major political parties than
addressing the terrible problem that is terrorism. Surely even
two sides with such differences should be able to put them aside and
bring their power to bear on the cancer that's destroying the country.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 28 August 2008 at 6:27am |
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I respect your opinion Sledge, but Iwish it was a politics discussion forum, I would have answered you in a bit of detail. But let me have the oppurtunity to hit the bottom line. Terrorism is an imported problem in our country and it will stop once we stop acting as US slaves. (The so called)Terrorism is ranked 10th among the problems of the people here. htye know how specific it is and who is the target and what is the reason. Cricket certainly is far away from that
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 28 August 2008 at 6:30am |
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You're right mate , let's stick to cricket and just hope everything comes right in your country.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 28 August 2008 at 6:34am |
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Ameen!! But a CT next year is next to impossible, given we have T20 world championship and other teams busy playing each other. I would not want it either, but instead I would prefer Australia making the tour to pakistan as scheduled
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 28 August 2008 at 12:07pm |
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i'm not talking about the political problems sledge, what i mean is that all the countries should try their best to keep cricket in PAK alive. that could be like touring there whenever the situation is good, helping them financially if tours and tournaments there get cancelled and playing significant 4-5 match test series' against them. most often PAK end up playing a 2 match test series which is ridiculous
aslo the ICC and PCB themselves should plan a better FTP for the country, not one where they don't play a single test in the entire year!
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 28 August 2008 at 7:51pm |
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according to the ESS (espn star) website a tri series in south africa has been confirmed with pakistan and srilanka as the two teams participating along with south africa, both SLN and PAK, otherwise, don't have any significant ckt assignments untill DEC-JAN. although i'll welcome it if it happens as it'll hopefully give me some good entertainment after my office hours, on the whole i think such tournaments are absolutely unnecessary.IND have declined to participate as the fourth nation as they want to concentrate on the home test series against AUS in oct. however, NZL can be roped in as the fourth nation as they were keen to fill the gap in their int'l calender.
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 6:08am |
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The reason that Pakistan play 2 match series is because that's what
they want Sam. India are the same , in December England play just the 2
tests against India and a shedload of one dayers - England wanted
another test.
One day cricket is god in the subcontinent and the lack of test cricket is their own doing. |
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 6:11am |
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Very true. But the players do want test cricket.
Australia is ready to tour India and they have raised no security issues on playing in Bangalore where there were a dozens of bomb blasts just last month.
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green plane
3rd Man
Joined: 17 August 2007 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 173 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 11:11am |
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Why I quoted them because they visited Pakistan in recent times (Infact one is in Pakistan right now) and they know the situation very well. If they have no problems thats mean the situation is good for cricket.
The other best example is the squash tournament that held in wah cantt recently. There was bomb blasts in wah cantt but importantly terrorist didn't target the sports thats why we have been saying that Pakistan is safe for sports.
The other thing I want to clear that we are not against any team or player. We respect ur players achievements and contributions in cricket. we are only complainig about the behavior of officials and players on security issue. Yesterday I read that Aus confirmed India tour. Aus know the situation in India which is also not good infact they agree to play in Hyderabad and Banglore. The question is here why they agreed? the international tennis tournament in banglore recently has been cancelled because of security than Why Aus agreed to play there when there is a security problem.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 12:29pm |
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143no
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Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 12:54pm |
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I am missing your point, do you want me to put all the articles up for the other side of the argument?
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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widdleman
Short Leg
Joined: 20 July 2008 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 73 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 2:37pm |
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Such a stupid decision by the ICC to hold the tournament in Pakistan, nothing against Pakistan players and public but surely when they decided to play the tournament there that other countries wouldn't go because of the Global landscape at the moment. I for one would tour Pakistan without a doubt but i can understand why some players arnt willing to risk it even if the possibility is very remote there still is a possibility that something dangerous may happen. After Australia refused to tour there earlier this year surely they knew then that the tournament was in trouble and should of been moved. Anyway thats just my opinion Pakistan people arn't to blame it's the ICC's short sightedness that needs to be questioned.
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bladescape
Wicket-Keeper
Excellence in the making Joined: 14 June 2008 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1809 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 3:23pm |
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Let's just blame the ICC in general and get on to the next thing?
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You know, I'm trying to decide whether to change my siggy or not...
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widdleman
Short Leg
Joined: 20 July 2008 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 73 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 3:37pm |
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you right mate!!! ICC are a bunch of W***ERS led by an Australian A**HOLE
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People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
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bladescape
Wicket-Keeper
Excellence in the making Joined: 14 June 2008 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1809 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 3:39pm |
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I'm right,but you should watch your language!
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You know, I'm trying to decide whether to change my siggy or not...
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Clobber
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Joined: 03 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8838 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 4:00pm |
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indeed he should
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widdleman
Short Leg
Joined: 20 July 2008 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 73 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 4:26pm |
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Yeah sorry guys ill do better from now on sorry
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People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 29 August 2008 at 6:42pm |
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Widdleman, I would blame the ICC too, no two ways about it. Tournament should have gone to Sri Lanka instead of being postponed!
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 11 September 2008 at 4:26pm |
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forget about october next year, the champions trophy is already in jeopardy and IND have rejected the dates as they clash with their ODI series against AUS.
problems for the ICC once again, and more problems for the PCB as nothing seems to be working right for them. shoaib malik has already expressed his fears about the future of ckt in PAK, and one has to wonder, when will the country see normal cricket being played again.
as of now a PAK ckt fan can do nothing but wait with lots and lots of patience and hope.
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 11 September 2008 at 4:44pm |
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As I said many times before, tournament should have been pushed to it's back up venue.
I do feel it for the Pakistan fans, really, I do because I know I would have feel down if the caribbean didn't have any international cricket for some years but you got to look at it from both angles. Safety comes first so Pakistan country ought to be blame mostly, not any cricketing bodies.
The least Pakistan can do is try and play overseas as much as they can. As a cricketer, I'd be glad to still play overseas plenty than no game at all!
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 11 September 2008 at 6:21pm |
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absolutely spin, there is no point in saying "we won't tour coz you've not toured", as this way PAK will only be missing int'l cricket while the other countires will anyhow be playing against all other nations.
PAK do have teams like IND, SLN, BAN, ZIM and may be even WI who will be touring, as for the rest they should be patient and hope for the best.
although initially i thought postponement was the only possible solution now i feel it was perhaps the wrong thing to do. it's better for the tourney to happen than not to happen at all, and at the moment it looks there is no way that the tournament can go ahead. PAK would have got something had the tournament happened and then they could have tried to win it and make a name for themselves also they could have demanded the hosting rights of the next champions trophy, right noe they've got themselves in a no win situation.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 11 September 2008 at 7:19pm |
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They couldn't have got the next one - I'm sure that one is already scheduled for the West Indies.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 12 September 2008 at 5:04am |
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Things will be cleared much before CT when Australia will refuse to tour pak in 2009 March. This would imlpy an end to the CT Edited by zuhair_abbasi - 12 September 2008 at 5:04am |
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 14 September 2008 at 8:00am |
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australia have expressed their concerns about touring IND, after four blasts rocked delhi yesterday which killed and injured several people. earlier this year IND have witnessed blasts in ahmedabad, jaipur and bangalore, while during the last few years cities like hyderabad and mumbai have also been under terrorist attacks.
as i said earlier, there should be some consistency and if safety of the players is the main issue, then i don't understand how is it that AUS consider it safe in IND and not in PAK.
although, i personally believe that they are safe in both the countries, going by the way the entire champions trophy issue went, logically AUS should be taking the same decision which they took for the CT and the tour of PAK. if they don't then thats certainly showing double standards. Edited by sam_ahmed - 14 September 2008 at 8:01am |
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 15 September 2008 at 5:02am |
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My pint too sam. I would love to see others comments on this though. Previous pages of this thread are full of those 'reasons' of even a SLIGHTEST fear or security risk should be good enough. So here we go, after ahmedabad and bangalore, it is the capital city Dehli rocked with blasts. True that the situation is different to Pakistan's but these are bombs good enough to claim people's lives nevertheless. Rather, here in Pakistan bombs mostly go off in remote tribal areas whereas major cities have been the target in India.
I ofcorse know australia are not going to pull out NO MATTER WHAT. But I just now want to know what the fellow members of the forum think of team australia decision to go on with the tour. Where is that famous tagline of 'its a sport after all, why risk your life'. Agreed. But why does that only hold true for Pakistan and not India.
Not a single player so far has shown any sort of concern over touring, for some reason thier families are less concerned over the Indian bombs. Cricketers' Association is a joke and I dont want to talk much about thier role. Wonder just how the recent situation in Pakistan even raises debates and concerns over the 2011 World cup, but here in India nobody can even dare talk about the Champions league or the IPL.
I remember I read a thumbrule once in my school days. They say, CASH IS KING.
P.S. I myself want this tour to take place as I badly want quality cricket.
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143no
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Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 15 September 2008 at 6:59am |
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It will depend on what sort of risk is percieved after they do a security assessment. As you stated above, the situation is different to Pakistans. |
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 15 September 2008 at 7:06am |
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The precieved reward is always going to be much much more than the precieved risk, when its is an indain tour of Australia, specially in this new IPL world
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spin wizard
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 5:44pm |
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Zuhair, incase it calms your nerve, the winless Windies might tour your parts. Heard the WICB and WIPA - Windies Players Association - are in talks!
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 16 September 2008 at 6:28am |
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Also heard that the WI board hhas said that the decision to tour or not to tour rests with the players' association. This is ridiculous. Although, I do beleive, WIndies players would not mind travelling to Pakistan. Loved them when they were here the last time. Want to see some test cricket invloving Pakistan. Been ages now
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