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    Posted: 18 July 2006 at 9:06am
Being Freddie is okay but nothing more than that. I haven't read the Waugh book yet.
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Quite right Clobs - I'm glad I didn't pay full whack for it as I'd
have been a little disappointed.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dips_december Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2006 at 6:22am

John Wright's book was released  and he has written much about Ganguly ,saying that Ganguly was responsible for getting the captaincy and was also responsoible for getting sacked .He said that their relationship got restrained in the last few days of Wright's tenure as coach and that Ganguly wanted a new coach .Wright has also said that he was happy that Ganguly's not in the team anymore .

I got to say when he was doing well he was GREAT now that he has benn axed a hole lot of new and old controversies are coming up against him .Just like what has happened to G. Jones .

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Thought I'd resurrect this thread with a review of Kevin Pietersen's book, Crossing The Boundary.

Whether or not you take the view that an autobiography by Pietersen published in 2006 is indicative of publishers cashing in on England's Ashes success, Pietersen is certainly a man with a story to tell, arguably more so than many of his England colleagues. And it is a story of life-changing decisions, hard work and brutal honesty about himself and those characters he has met along the way.

Pietersen recounts his time as an active sportsman in his youth, through to his frustration with the South African quota system which eventually made up his mind to leave for England, his desire to eventually play for his adopted country, his fall-out with Nottinghamshire, his incredible return to South Africa as an England player and of course the summer of 2005, where his confidence in his own ability paid off and he showed everybody just what Kevin Pietersen is made of.

There are also chapters dealing with the winter tours of Pakistan and India as well as the summer series against Sri Lanka where he established himself yet further with two more centuries. At no point in the book does he portray himself as someone afraid to speak his mind, and he certainly has some harsh words to dish out on some pretty big names in cricket.

But then, what did we expect from a book to which KP has put his name? His confidence jumps out at you from the pages, and when you discover just what he has had to go through, it suddenly begins to make a little more sense. Here is someone who is like he is because of what he's been through, and it is England's gain that he is.

At the end of most chapters, KP allows the likes of Clive Rice, Nasser Hussain and Ian Botham, amongst others, their chance to write about him. It's an interesting idea, and adds a different dimension – KP giving his critics the chance to bite back.

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Pietersen concludes the book by noting that he hopes the best is yet to come. If that is the case, then he still has some story to write, but what he's already written here is certainly captivating and a good read. His refreshing honesty towards himself, and others is striking, and the detail into which he analyses his performances give us an insight to what makes such a top sportsman tick, and how he thinks in the heat of battle.

This is far from the worst of the post-Ashes cricket book boom, and for someone with quite a story to tell, it definitely crosses the boundary leaving those books that are made for the sake of it behind, and approaching the territory of those books which genuinely should be written.


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There's a good book called The Rainmen- very funny.

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An eye for the less obvious player Clob? He must have married into the family !!

Blimey , if Chris Tavare was 21 today , they'd be no need for tranquillisers - just go watch him bat for a session - pure purgatory!!
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 December 2006 at 10:50pm
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Michael Vaughan - Calling The Shots

Another one I am fairly indifferent about. At times Vaughan speaks his mind quite freely - on Graeme Smith for example - yet as with other books written by guys still playing you are constantly left with the feeling there is more to be said. An interesting, intelligent guy with a lot to say, he can do better I am sure.


I am reading this book at present Clobber. You are right Vaughan really speaks his mind. LOL It's a good thing. It's really interesting as a supporter to know exactly what cricketers are thinking. They have to really decorate their statements to the press but in the books they seem to relax more when making statements and we get a better idea or what they are like. I do remember him speaking freely on Graeme SmithLOLLOL but he does respect him though.
Smith should write a book that would be great to hear what Smith thinks!Big%20smile
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 December 2006 at 6:22am
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Smith should write a book that would be great to hear what Smith thinks!Big%20smile


  Please spare us that !!!  Graeme Smith isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer Daisy - like most sportsmen/women , it'll have to be a ghosted effort - unless it's going to target the under 7's !!
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Well he may not be the most intelligent person alive but whatever he writes would be straight from the heart!LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 6:41am
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I enjoyed reading Nasser Hussain's biography - 'Playing With Fire'. He certainly didn't pull any punches regarding the ICC/ECB; a weighty volume but worth the read, in my opinion.


   I concur JP !    I received this book for Christmas (it must've been on special!) and I've only just managed to finish it.   Hussein gives a real incite inot the modern game of cricket , both nationally and internationally.  Refreshingly honest and lacking in the usual cliches and platitudes , it confirms what most assessments of the man were - straightforward and someone who doesn't suffer fools gladly.
     No holds barred either , ex-players and administrators are laid bare and I particularly liked his sometimes brutal self-assessment - he admits to being a rather nasty piece of work at times!

    Highly recommended , on a par with Atheron's  "Opening Up".

   

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 9:35am
yup, those are definitely the 2 best cricket books I have read. I've got a few new ones recently so can add to this thread when I actually get some time to read them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2007 at 9:38am
 Work and young lads Clobs - you'll have time to read in about 15 years !
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I don't know if anyone else has read Brearley's The Art of Captaincy, but that's a very interesting read. If a little over the head of the average club cricketer a lot of the time!
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No CM , but I want to!  Nasser refers to that tome on numerous occasions.
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It's a good book. I've only read it once though, and I don't think that's really enough, especially for a non-professional level cricketer. A lot of the specifics are irelevant to a club captain since it is far too complicated and you won't have the players good enough to make it work at your disposal, but more importantly the general advice and the approach to the game are very enlightening at any level
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 I'll mention to the missus and my daughter , birthday in May!
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Recently there was book by Greg Chappell on how to become a legend, which I thought was totally whack. Does anyone know anything about it.
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I have only read about 2 or 3 cricket books. One is the wisden 141 edition and a book all about Sir Gary Sobers and I can't remember what its name is.
 
It's a great book! It tells all about Gary when he was young growing up in school playing cricket on your knees and whoever owned the ball or bat was in control either (one of them was the hardest to get; I can't remember and that's why they were in control). It then tell about how he got into cricket at a recognizeable level and when he first came into the West Indies side and then about most of the tours of his career. A great book it is!
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If you read only one book about cricket this year read Penguins Stopped Play by Harry Thompson.  The Rainmen, previously referenced, spurred Thompson to write this book setting out, as it did, a rather less that accurate account of the team founded by Thompson 'Captain Scott's Invitation XI'. 

The Rainmen tells of the disgruntled and less than fully committed element within Captain Scott's XI, and suggests that those who dropped out to establish The Rainmen were the spiritual successors to the Scotties.  Penguins Stopped Play sets the record straight and does so with an eclectic mix of brutal honesty, fantastic humour and, ultimately, great sadness and tragedy.

I'll admit this book often had tears streaming from my eyes – in the earlier chapters these were tears of laughter, towards the end I’ll unashamedly admit they were genuine tears of grief.  Having got to know a mixed bag of ‘village cricketers’ who inadvertently ‘take on the world’ (including a country) on a mini world tour I could not but read the last chapter through damp eyes as Thompson discovers he has inoperable cancer and dies, to all intents and purposes, ‘at the crease’.

Yes the Rainmen (and The Zimmermen) is funny, but Penguins tells the story of Captain Scott’s XI from the horse’s mouth.  For those of you, like me, who have spent many years opening the batting for a bits n bobs bunch of stay together cricketers, through rain, sun, hail, snow and varying degrees of opposition, you will connect with Harry Thompson and realise the genius behind Have I Got News For You was a giant of a man.

RIP Harry Thompson; play on the Scotties!!



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 I'll be in Exclusive Books this weekend and get it ordered if it's not in stock WG. The international players get the greatest acclaim , but the spirit and soul of cricket is carried by the rag tag groups who play for the sheer love of the game.

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Time to add a little to this...

Crossing the Boundary - Kevin Pietersen

JP's review up the page is pretty much on the money here. If you've read the thread you'll know I am pretty sceptical about books written by guys still in the midst of their careers and this is another case in point. Whilst KP is happy to dish on Ali Bacher et all he keeps his cards to his chest on matters closer to (his current) home - for example he alludes to certain players who blew their chances with the England Academy without actually naming names. One thing I would say is his love for the sport shines through and is to be commended.

The idea of having others add comments at the end of chapters only half works, partially due to the occasionally tortuous manner in which his ghost writer tries to make it look seamlessly integrated, but it is to the credit of all concerned that even semi-critical comments such of those from Stuart MacGill are included.

Many a Slip - Gideon Haigh

Again if you've read the thread you'll know I am a fan of this writer, and here he offers something distinctly different from previous efforts, being a diary of one season with his own club, the Yarras. Anyone who has played club cricket will recognise and rejoice in huge chunks of this book - notably the commitee selections boiling down to those who failed to rule themselves out by being on holiday etc, and close team selections dependant on whose wife makes the better teas!

In an all too brief read Haigh brings the characters to life as it turns into a successful year for the Yarras. An enjoyably warm look at a season that has resonance for anyone who has ever mucked in a lower level cricket.




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Michael Vaughan - Calling The Shots

Another one I am fairly indifferent about. At times Vaughan speaks his mind quite freely - on Graeme Smith for example - yet as with other books written by guys still playing you are constantly left with the feeling there is more to be said. An interesting, intelligent guy with a lot to say, he can do better I am sure.


 My daughter bought this book for me for Father's Day Clobs (cheapskate got it for a song!) . I have to say it's rather tame. Except for the Smith dig and a little nip at Nasser Hussain , there's little of interest.
     Vaughan practically reproduces accounts of his tests as captain in much the same manner as a newspaper article. We get the best bowling performances , batting highlights and the result , no real substance at all.
     It lacks meat , no controversy and little insight into the characters within the dressing room.
     A pretty dull affair that'll gather dust along with many other sporting autobiographies in the Sledger household.
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It's Not Cricket - Simon Rae

A book all about skulduggery dealing with sharp practice including match fixing, throwing, ball tampering and sledging among it's various topics. Rae is it at his best when the subject is long in the past; 19th century matchfixing is covered in entertaining detail, the character of WG Grace shines from the pages frequently and the Bodyline chapter is outstanding. More recent events are dealt with but fail to capture the reader in anything like the same way - perhaps as in many instances we are already familiar with the stories and Rae doesn't really add anything new.

Ashes 2006/7 - Downed Under - Gideon Haigh

The inevitable sequel to Haigh's marvellous Ashes 2005 is another collection of his various articles written during the series. Much like the series itself however the book never quite takes off and ends up as a fairly perfunctory set of match reports that lack the magic of the 2005 edition.

I have a couple of books on the shelf awaiting my attention but I need to do some bodybuilding before I can even lift the Steve Waugh book first.


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Fine doorstop , that Waugh tome matey!!
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I've read a couple more recently:

Shane Warne - Spun Out - Paul Barry

Shane had nothing do with this book, and wanted no-one else to, hence it's an unofficial biography. I was most disappointed, as within the first few pages, I'd picked out a number of factual inaccuracies, such as claiming Warne was involved in the 2005 NatWest Challenge which rather left me to doubt much of what else was written.

A lot of the time he seems to try and rubbish what Warne himself has written in his own life stories which makes for sometimes uncomfortable reading. But if he couldn't get the bare facts right, can the rest of the book be trusted?

As time goes by, there will be several books written about the great man, but in my view this isn't one that deserves to stand out.

Andrew Strauss - Coming Into Play

As with most books written by players still in the game, this one won't cause any great shakes, but at least Strauss is intelligent enough to make it a half-decent read. No controversy, as you'd expect, and some salient points about the one-day team and why we're no good was the highlight. Otherwise it's more or less as Vaughan's book described by Sledger above - little more than a potted history of career highlights.

Penguins Stopped Play - Harry Thompson

This is a fantastic book about one of the worst sides ever (no, not England) embarking on a number of foreign tours and detailing their adventures along the way. I would highly recommend this one, being funny, beautifully written and captivating from the farcical beginnings to the tragic end.


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Has anyone read Wally Hammond's Cricket: My World ?
 
 
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Unfortunately, he is not on this forum now, is he?  Although, it might just be a matter of time.  We've already got the Dr. on board.

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