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zuhair_abbasi
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Topic: England v Pakistan Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:07pm |
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Asif gets his man - his bunny I would say. Love this game within the game.
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mystery
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Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:42pm |
125/4 one more wicket now and they might struggle to get 200.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 29 July 2010 at 6:44pm |
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Wow 331/4 , one more double century partnership (or couple of 100 runs partnerships) then England might not need to bat again in this match.
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Sledger
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 5:41am |
Originally posted by mystery
125/4 one more wicket now and they might struggle to get 200. |
Might struggle to get 500 is closer to the mark.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Sledger
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 7:00am |
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331-4 after being in a pickle at 118-4 has England well and truly in the driving seat. Morgan's coolness and total domination of the spinners Kaneria and Malik was great to watch , but they did send down an awful lot of rubbish without any success. Worse though was the horrific wicketkeeping by Kamran Akmal - so bad , it was almost comical. A simple catch which would have sent back Strauss for 15 , a regulation stumping of Collingwood which he barely laid a glove on and a "catch" to dismiss Morgan when he'd only 5 to be thrown out on appeal as not having carried. The latter was simply awful - the wicket was slow and he was stood far too far back. Even so , had he gone at it with hands apart and scooped it rather than with the gloves together , he would have taken it. The Pakistani bowlers must have been deeply depressed by his performance and it spread through the fielding as well - this was Pakistan back to where they've been on many occasions , looking shambolic. England will bat once now and weather permitting will win this in a canter. Rather than be extremely happy , I'm a tad down , I wanted a contest and i'm seeing another Bangladeshi-type match. Disappointing - let's hope Pakistan come back strongly this morning , but I have serious doubts.
Edited by Sledger - 30 July 2010 at 7:01am
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 7:15am |
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Akmal again. Kaneria's records would have been much better had it not been for Akmal. He would have had around 300 wickets by now at a decent average of 30ish. This match is over for Pakistan. No way without Yousuf and Younus are they going to challenge England. Swann will be mighty effective tomorrow.
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mystery
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 8:06am |
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Akmal is terrible even his face is ugly like his keeping why dont they just drop him.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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Sledger
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 8:22am |
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Agreed Zuhair , Swann will do well on this surface. It might be sooner than you think , the weather forecast is decent - just clouds and maybe a little rain tonight , so Swann could be amongst the wickets this afternoon. The pitch isn't as helpful as the one at Headingley , but the swing is there as expected. I thought the two Mohammads did well and caused problems , but Gul was too short and never pressuried the batsmen - scoring was all to easy when he was operating.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 8:33am |
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It had to be these two only. Kaneria was less impressive - it would have been nice to play Ajmal instead. It is not the first time that we have suffered because of the poor keeping and it wont be the last either. It is about time AKmal sorts it out - his batting alone should not guarantee his place in the test squad.
Gul was flat as expected - I just do not think Gul is test match stuff - but there isn't much bench strength either with Akhtar being ruled out of test matches. Another problem that will haunt Pakistan as the series progresses is back to back tests - no way can both Aamer and Asif be as effective as they are now throughout - I wonder if any team has ever played six tests in such short time span.
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mystery
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 8:38am |
I think with Aamer and Asif in the team Ajmal is a must we dont need attacking spinner Ajmal is much better than Kaneria. Kamran is also struggling with the bat so why not just drop him and play Asad Shafiq.
Edited by mystery - 30 July 2010 at 8:39am
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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Amal
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 8:52am |
Kamran Akmal is back in his form I think. I missed the whole innings yesterday because of the bad wheather and electricity failure
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Sledger
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 8:56am |
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The schedule heaped on Pakistan is horrendous , especially for the seamers. I don't recall any side playing 6 tests in such a short space of time , it's madness. If Aamer and Asif don't break down they're sure to lose effectiveness. Butt has a real job on his hands if the spinners and Gul continue to underperform - he has to try and keep his two best bowlers fresh but as the runs flowed he must've been thinking of bringing the two tiring seamers back. First up today , those two need to hit Morgan and Collingwood hard - the first half hour will give a good indication of what kind of day the Pakistanis can expect. No wickets and they'll be chasing leather , but nip them out and it'll give them a lift.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 11:26am |
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Here we go - it is Farhat at first slip who drops a sitter now. memories of the 2006 series - both Farhat and AKmal dropped 15 or so chances - we have had 4 missed chances already.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 12:18pm |
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Bam! What a collapse! 354 all out - they were some 330 odd runs for 4 down yesterday close of play. Asif decided to do it all himself - as the fielders refused to help him. Brilliant stuff from Asif - what a pity those chances went begging or else this match would have been really interesting.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 1:44pm |
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I think people will now know why I rate Asif so highly, even ahead of Aamer who has more pace to cause more trouble. Asif is McGrath-esque but with a lot more clever movement of the ball and all those lbw's he keeps on getting will highlight that. You get a few that come on with the natural angle, one that goes away then bam, the one that nips back on. I can watch Asif bowl all day long.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 2:52pm |
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Pakistan hit a new low - 45 for 6 as I type. Wont be long before Younus and Yousuf are rushed back.
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kahmad
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 3:01pm |
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Umar Akmal and Umar Amin/Malik should be replaced immediatly by Yousuf and Younus.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 3:58pm |
Have some patience , the two UA's are good you guys need to back them.This is bad that one day you make heroes and immediately zeros.
They are good players , so persist with them and they will come good, but please don't make them the "next big thing" once they hit purple patch next time.
Moreover this is English conditions,to be frank batsmans don't dominate, unless they are in a very good form and are ready to graft accroding to the changing conditions.
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kahmad
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 4:13pm |
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Both UA's are very talentend, but Yousuf and Younus can surely do the job much better. Umar Akmal is made a star too early. In T20 or odi he is doing well but i dont think he is a test player yet. Afridi said it too that there are some players in the team who should leave and just concentrate on odi and T20. Umar Akmal is definetly one of them.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 4:23pm |
Come on Finn n Jimmy , get the rest soon before they cross 150.
EDIT: 45/6 to 105/6 , getting to my nerves  .
EDIT2:  between edits I got one 
Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 30 July 2010 at 4:26pm
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 5:03pm |
Pakistan seem to save follow on , 141-8. I shall try my luck one more time for couple of wickets.
EDIT: I don't understand why Finn is not bowling when he has been more effective and economical at this stage.Broad has been little off the mark then Jimmy and Finn.
Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 30 July 2010 at 5:07pm
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mystery
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 5:14pm |
We should have a series of Pakistan vs India.It will be very interesting to see who gets on top. Pakistan's terrible batting lineup against Indian's horrible bowling lineup what a match it would be.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 5:26pm |
147/9 fantastic bowling that.Jimmy and Finn , what superb bowling .
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 6:54pm |
Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84
Have some patience , the two UA's are good you guys need to back them.This is bad that one day you make heroes and immediately zeros.
They are good players , so persist with them and they will come good, but please don't make them the "next big thing" once they hit purple patch next time.
Moreover this is English conditions,to be frank batsmans don't dominate, unless they are in a very good form and are ready to graft accroding to the changing conditions.
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That is very very true, good post, PAK needs to understand that there is no need to panic, even if they lose they need to persist with players whom they have identified for the future. These are english conditions, even ENG lost 6 wickets for some 20 runs in the first session, no surprises that PAK are struggling although yes, they should have shown better application and should have done better, but this side is still learning. Nothing can be said about Kamran though except for one word "pathetic". PLEASE replace him in test matches PLEASE, this is the 3617392th time that his keeping has cost PAK the game.    
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mystery
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 7:21pm |
Even Imran Farhat is useless he drops as many catches as Akmal does so both need to go out or please someone kill them . Fawad is 100 times better than him still after few bad innings he is out of the team.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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Clobber
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Posted: 30 July 2010 at 8:12pm |
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I was getting a bit sweaty there when the Pakistanis lost their 6th wicket, it looked like I would only be gettig a session to watch tomorrow at most.
At least now there might be a bit more action. I think part of me would like to see them pass the follow on, but what will be will be.
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mystery
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Posted: 31 July 2010 at 12:13am |
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I hope they dont pass the follow-on mark becuz if they do than match is lost the only way Pakistan can win this is if England allow them to bat again and if they make atleast 300.
Edited by mystery - 31 July 2010 at 12:14am
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 31 July 2010 at 7:39am |
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Pakistan win? You talking about the same test match all of us are watching mystery?
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 31 July 2010 at 10:21am |
Day 2 Trent Bridge: Fifteen wickets for 170 is just as bad as concrete highway(like SSC) or Snakepit(square turner, if I am right Kanput pitch) for me.
In pitches like SSC we get 5 days of batting entertainment, if wickets fall at 15 per day then we will have 2.5 day Test match , which would not actually be a TEST actually.
Good pitch should ideally provide result on final day or at max 4th day post tea, rather than 3 day results or 4th morning results.
Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 31 July 2010 at 10:26am
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 31 July 2010 at 10:28am |
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It is not about pitches alone matey - just as the SSC test recently concluded was not about the pitch alone - it is also about the inept Pakistan batting line and some really good swing bowling.
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