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The Tyke 
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 Topic: Group A (South Africa, West Indies, Bangladesh)Posted: 12 September 2007 at 7:09am |
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I'm not doubting the ability of their all rounders and keeper Sledge.
What I mean is that if the 3 specialists fail then all the hopes fall on their shoulders to make the score as well as the pressure of bowling.
I'd have been tempted to have the extra batsman as a Plan B. But then again this is the South African selectors we're talking about. They believe in Plan A only, as is evident by their choice to lack a spinner or 2.
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Minn hugur er minn sverð (My mind is my sword)
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Sledger
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 7:34am |
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That's been the South African approach since readmission in
1991. You're dead right , SA have a single battle plan when in
the field - there are no emergency contingencies.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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green plane
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 7:46am |
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very good opening match. gayle and gibbs played very well. crowd was superb. I have only problem with camera work. I think camera man had a problem to see the ball.
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Sledger
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 8:08am |
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I noticed that too and that's quite unusual for this part of the world - they're normally top class.
The other irritating aspect of the television coverage was the lack of updates on the batsmen's scores. I kept wondering just how many Gibbs had after he'd passed 50. Anyone else have the samegripe ? |
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Clobber
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 9:09am |
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On the plus side, first indications are that they have engaged a far higher quality of commentator than the C-listers that showed up at the World Cup
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Sledger
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 9:11am |
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They've got Bumble Clobs - he's a rare treat !!
Offsetting that though - Supersport have got Tony Greig in the studio ! Edited by Sledger - 12 September 2007 at 9:12am |
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samhache
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 9:20am |
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Mojo
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 9:20am |
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I didn't have to worry about commentary or camera angles while watching the game live. What a match though! The atmosphere in the stadium was mind-blowing.
Pity about the bowling though. Both SA and Windies gave away extras like they didn't care. And the fielding by the Windies was a real tragedy. The tournament looks set to be a real scorcher though. I'll be back at the Wanderers on Monday again. Don't know who'll be playing yet though. |
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Clobber
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 10:14am |
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They had Ian Chappell, Harshe Bogle and David Lloyd who are all pretty good in my opinion |
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daisy77
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 6:41pm |
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. Ok Samhache....maybe I was too harsh in the past about Gayle. But I still strongly believe that he is a hitter.....and not so much a classy batsman. He does NOT have much foot movement at all. He just hits the ball hard and it goes because he is so strong. However, it was an AMAZING innings I will admit. Sadly I did not see it because I was in school. Let's hope he repeats his performance next match for the windies sake!
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daisy77
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 6:43pm |
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Ohhhh...thanks for telling me. That was brave of him to go on to bat after being hit by Powell.
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 8:52pm |
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Chris gayle, what an absolute superb innings. First lad on planet earth to score a ton in a 20/20 match.
Ah mean, Gayle he hit some smally six, some bigger six as well, and some monster sixes as well. He crack one 101M, oh man that really fantastic.
SA may have won but who cares Gayle did something special and is main fact is I saw it LIVE!!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 12 September 2007 at 9:30pm |
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Yes fellas, Gayle played the best knock I have ever seen in a 2020 game! Such clean hitting and he hit some real monster blows on the SA bowlers. That was such a lovely innings and it's a shame he had to end up on the losing side. I hope that's something for some of the no-brainers out there who say some people don't win enough match for their side. Gayle knock was out of the top drawer but because of poor fielding and bowling, the Windies lost so I hope that makes some of them keep their mouth quiet!
Smith is a real gritty player and that was real guts to stay out there and play on. Gibbs played some fantastic strokes too but the Windies bowling of gifting wides like crazy and dropping the 2 man who made all the runs was the main difference between the sides. I liked the hostility Powell bowled with and Edwards bowling was terrific other than the wides he bowled.
I have to slam Sarwan's captaincy for that match too! Why did he bowl Dwayne Smith after a horrendous first over??? Why wasn't Gayle used??? (I don't know if Gayle wasn't fit to bowl) Why did he take Edwards out of the attack when he was on fire to Gibbs who was the danger man at that time??? It was simple, Edwards should have been used to peg back the runs and make them try a shot too many against the other bowlers!!
Overall, Windies was poor other than Gayle and Edwards, none of the sides bowled enough short ball in my view - they were causing problems fellas - and SA batting attack looks well set!! Edited by spin wizard - 12 September 2007 at 9:33pm |
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Mojo
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 8:38am |
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Some may say that SA only have 3 specialist batsmen in the side, but if you look at the domestic Pro20 competition, you will find that the squad is full of names that have dominated that scene. Absolutely murderous sloggers like Van der Wath and Albie Morkel, not to mention the capable all-rounders like Vernon Philander, and Morne Morkel who can slog a few too. I think the only doubt in terms of batting may be Makhaya.
Also, SA's bowling may seem one-dimensional without a world-class spinner, but I doubt it's gonna hurt them much with the batting prowess that they have. |
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Clobber
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 9:35am |
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successful teams in T20 cricket have a mixture of bowling at their disposal - that doesn't necessarily mean spinners, but it does mean a range of options from outright strike bowlers down to dibbly dobbers who wobble it around at 70mph. We saw last night Australia's quick men suffering as the batsmen were glad of the pace on the ball, and a good batting side should be able to do the same against South Africa with it's group of similar bowlers, which doesn't require the batsmen to change or rethink strategies as they would do when a spinner or whatever is brought into the action.
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Clobber
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 11:27am |
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So the West Indies have compiled 164 against Bangledesh - Chris Gayle going from the sublime to the ridiculous by bagging a 3 ball duck here, and the Windies will be grateful for Dwayne Smith's mad assault at the end blitzing 29 from 7 deliveries. Hugely impressive figures from Syed Rasal - 4-1-10-1, again supporting the theory that dribbly seamers are more effective than pace bowlers at this game.
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Mojo
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:06pm |
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Brilliant stuff from Mohammed Ashraful. 28 off 8 so far! That's blindingly quick!
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Max Power
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:27pm |
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Windies are gonna lose this and be out!
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Mojo
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:30pm |
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56 off 21! And Bangladesh are left needing 47 off 49 balls. Wonderful stuff from Ashraful.
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bondy
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:33pm |
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20 ball 50!!! Amazing from Ashraful! Just when you though West Indies cricket couldn't get any worse...
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Good one Graham!
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Mojo
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 1:02pm |
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Well done to Bangladesh! You totally outplayed the Windies today.
West Indies makes the first exit of the tournament. Time to select a new captain. |
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143no
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 1:06pm |
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I don't think they have many other options do they? I also wouldn't like 20-20 form to decide any players future, it's a game designed purely for entertainment.
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Rifat
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 1:11pm |
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*Cough. I love those comments. The winning margin says it all. |
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mhj007
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 1:20pm |
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you are dead i suppose. 
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venom2011
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 1:39pm |
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The same could have been said about the 50 over game a few years back. Most players are still learning to adapt technically as well as mentally. And there's been talk of having teams play more 20/20 matches and less 50 over matches |
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143no
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 1:50pm |
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A few years back?
There will be talk of more while ever it turns over the $$$, after all Macdonalds is all over the world now, people want fast, they hate waiting.
How many players, if given the choice of only being able to play one version of the game, would chose 20-20 over test cricket?
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 2:36pm |
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Yeah, i am glad to be alive mates.
This team called bangladesh is really driving me crazy, they messup the worldcup by defeating india, now it's west indies.
the thing is i got up after 3 am to watch this match, it then got delayed and oh dear windies are a gonna.
Bang has 2 little dangerous youngsters with the bat.
Congrats bang anyway.
Well West indies will have to watch the rest of the tournament from the caribbean.
now i will turn my focus on the Indian team.
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stefan
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 3:42pm |
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West Indies suck really South-Africa beat them with no problem... I mean even Bangladesh wipped their asses... But Bangladesh don't be 2 full of yourself I mean you still have 2 play South-Africa
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Mojo
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 3:47pm |
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I'd me more afraid of SA being too full of themselves... Bangladesh seems to enjoy T20 cricket. |
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BackFoot Master
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But the main thing, bang are through to the next round.
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Group A (South Africa, West Indies, Bangladesh)