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    Posted: 12 February 2011 at 4:16am

Every time I see Bopara bat, I see so much of class in him. He should be a hit.Hope this WC is the starting point of his successful career.

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Spin , Few inputs about this guy Andre Russell. What I gather is he has got good pace and bounce pitches the ball at ackward lenght. Just 22 year old , he has not played much FC matches, but whatever he has played it looks like he is a very good bowler and might be a decent bat too.

He has played so less, still he is in the sqaud. Today he took 4 wickets against kenya.Are we in for a special secret weapon from WI?
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Raj, Russell can bowl good deliveries but he's a Stuart MacGill, even if he do take wickets, he'll leak runs.  If he goes for less than 5 runs per over in this WC, i'll be very shocked.  And don't pay too much attention to those first class stats and readings.  He's not that quick, yes, he got a bit of pace (87 MPH aint that slow) but I don't think he gets in the 90's at all.  He's strong though, very athletic and far better fielder than you'd normally associate with West Indian quicks.  He can bowl good short ones, good yorkers and good length balls but is quite inconsistent.  He can get wickets but he has a tendancy to leak runs.  International batsmen can end your career easy if you're that kind of bowler, especially if your back up bowlers aren't capable of mopping up what you leaked.
 
With his batting though, if he connects on a ball, he'll smoke it, hits it extremely hard.  Will be a vital part in that lower order.  He can blaze 40 runs in 20 balls!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2011 at 5:49pm
Unlike you guys, I've gone down on my ratings on Bopara.  To me, he's just another one of those guys that looks like he can bat but is actually another story.  Not exactly in the Devon Smith mold but something like that.  Devon Smith does hit some of the prettiest cover drives that leaves you in awe and can crack some pull shots yet you wonder how he can fail so miserably.  For England sake, they better hope Ravi is not in that same category.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MalhotraRaj84 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2011 at 6:11am
IRE and BD in same group makes all matches in Group B interesting, least the teams that qualify for knockout stage will be well prepared.IRE and BD, how close they are. BD's strength lies in spin, otherwise it would be an interesting match up.
 
I would not be surprised at all if IRE finish higher than BD in the points table. It will all boil down to how well IRE batsman can handle spin.
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Raj, there we go, Russell goes for 42 off 4 overs today against Sri Lanka and got a wicket!
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All HELL is going to break loose in Group B, Bangladesh and Ireland are no pushovers by any means and going by the terrific runchase of the Netherlands today against KEN even they can't be taken lightly ... they bat as low as No.10 and Ryan Ten Doeschate, what a player!!! If only they still had Nannes playing for them!

The ICC have got it wrong, the qualifiers shouldn't be happening as long as 2 years back, or atleast the grouping should not be done on the basis of two years old data.
 
All in all the associate nations have progressed pretty well and it is disappointing to know that they won't be around in 2015. How will they progress? Apparently they will only be playing in the T20 WC's and possibly the champions trophy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 February 2011 at 5:54am
SA beat Australia without breaking sweat yesterday. Australia collapsed again after a 122 stand between Ponting and Clarke and were all gone for just 216. SA knocked those off for the loss of only one wicket and that was a run out !   Both Smith and Amla made unbeaten 60's before retiring because they were bored silly.  Duminy and de Villiers saw them home will almost 6 overs left.  Steyn and Peterson took three wickets apiece and looked good.
                 That'll boost confidence but Australia can take heart in that Ponting's now made successive half centuries , but that middle order looks flaky - they're missing Mike Hussey and White just doesn't convince me that he's good enough at this level.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 February 2011 at 5:55am
In the big match today England are destroying the little Canadians with some fearsome hitting - currently they're a massive 144-5 off just 33 overs.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 February 2011 at 7:21am
Really can't read much into the practice games sledge, I think teams are taking this as just an opportunity to have batting, bowling and fielding practice, result is not on their minds.
 
AUS shold still do well in the main tournament. I think back in 2007 both PAK and IND won their warm up games and then got a real shocker in the main event, I hope that doesn't happen this time!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 February 2011 at 7:48am
Agreed Sam , but a big win might settle a few nerves (especially mine!)  . England eventually got to 243 all out with Matt Prior making a stylish 78 off 80 balls , batting at 6.  Pietersen opened and apparently that's the plan for the tournament.  I've no problems with that , KP against the seamers 1st up looks a decent option , although there will be some spinners opening the bowling. Prior down the order looks right too , his boundary hitting is good and he'll be useful in the powerplay , taking over the role of Morgan.
                  Incidently Morgan doesn't need surgery and could well get back into the squad if someone breaks down..................Collingwood , I'm talking to you !


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With Bopara not getting a bat, it looks as though they intend to use Wright rather than him in the tournament, which remains a strange choice when you consider their relative abilities.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 February 2011 at 4:34pm
ENG win but only just! 16 runs against CAN who are perhaps the weakest among the minnoe nations. That is bad and I hope they get it right quickly because their 2nd game is against IND, who are knocking opponents out at the moment in these warm ups.
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Yes Sam, Look out for Cheema and Davo once again in this tournament folks.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2011 at 5:07am
Grand effort from the Canadians - they're more multicultural than England ! 
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With Bopara not getting a bat, it looks as though they intend to use Wright rather than him in the tournament, which remains a strange choice when you consider their relative abilities.


 There's still Pakistan on Friday Clobs and I expect that starting XI to be that favoured by Flower and Strauss. 
          When comparing Bopara to Wright I think it's only in the fielding department where Wright might just have the advantage , Bopara's batting and wicket taking ability far exceeds Wright's.   What might swing it in Wright's favour is loyalty - he's been around the group since Flower arrived on the scene and we've seen with the test set up that once you're in it takes injury or something special to have someone replaced.
           The game tomorrow is a biggie , as far as warm ups go. Pakistan are showing signs or being a major player in the tournament and England need a solid match to show that they've got over their Australian nightmare.    I think the bowling isn't a concern , it's the batting that's been so inconsistent of late - they need to buck up!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2011 at 5:39pm
Apparently Barath an Baugh are injured and may be replaced, that could be a huge set back for the Windies. I hope they recover.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 February 2011 at 2:22pm
Barath is definitely a loss, not so sure about Baugh but he's a good powerful cameo player.  Hasn't been any more than that really.  Thomas, his replacement, can play spin quite well so would be handy to have in the sub continent.  Haven't seen too much of his keeping though.
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The England players were given a day off training following the Canada game but were still on duty and went to revisit a hospital that treat victims of acid attacks. They visited the same facility last year.

There were 2,433 attacks registered between 1999 and 2010 by the Acid Survivors Foundation (ASF). Many of the victims will survive and the hospital visited by England is just one of many that help victims deal with the horrendous injuries inflicted upon them when acid is thrown in the faces of, mostly young women, as a form of attack.

The overwhelming majority of the victims are girls below 18 years of age. In some cases it is because a young girl or women has spurned the advances of a male or either she or her parents have rejected a marriage proposal.

 Acid attacks WTF! What goes on in the heads of these people?
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Acid attacks are very common in subcontinent Flipper.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 February 2011 at 3:01am
People's belief can make them utterly foolish and stupid (they probably mean the samething but whatever figure of speech yo call that, it was needed to emphasize the stupidity of such things).  Life goes on, people need to put their insecurities aside!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 February 2011 at 5:47am
So England up against the Nederlands in today's only match.  Revenge in the air after England lost to them in the World T20 and I expect them to win comfortably.  That's not to say that the Dutch can't play , they're probably the best of the minnows with some more than decent players.   
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I think Ireland still are the better side amongst the associates.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 February 2011 at 6:46am
It's a close call , both sides have a few full time professionals and some experienced part-timers.
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Upset on the cards right here. Doeschate is on fire. 110 off 103 with 5 overs to go. C'mon Netherlands. 5 No balls, England are struggling. 
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Also, Jimmy Anderson just bowled two no balls, being over waist high on the full. Why is he not removed from the attack by the umpire. Isn't it one warning, then you are out ???
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 February 2011 at 2:00pm
Oh dear, what am I seeing?  Did Netherland score 292? 
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Well done the Dutch, good work out for England, just what we needed.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 February 2011 at 7:23pm
ENG Survive but only just! They seriously can't do well in the subcontinent.
 
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it wasn't "only just" at all, the result was never in doubt for a second - the batting was a good professional performance, easing their way to a big target with minimal risk.
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