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Form hardly ever matters with Pakistan - this is the way they have always played the game. It will be a tough contest - last time Pakistan met Windies in a world cup game - they were comprehensively beaten by a weak team. Gayle's stay at the wicket could decide the fate of the match.

Pakistan bowlers look out for Gayle, he was in a rampant mood against England I don't think he'll play any different tomorrow. In the shorter format of the game, there is hardly any who is more destructive than Gayle (Sehwag is no match to Gayle in the shorter format when it comes to being destructive). Umar Gul will have to watch those length balls, they could be sailing way into the stands.

In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.

What a game!! Actually it was like a no competition at all! Pak blew the WI clear out of the WC. Very good bowling performance by Afridi and his men. The west Indian batsman could not handle the spin bowling at all. I think the only two batsmen that were able to play the spin were Chanderpaul and Sarwan. everyone else were troubled.

I'm all for the Indian's now Daisy, those Indian batsmen are too attractive not to like!

Pity with Gayle though, stroked 3 good shots but picked out the fielder with one! Would have been different had it been a pitch like Barbados!

In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.

Originally posted by spin wizard

I'm all for the Indian's now Daisy, those Indian batsmen are too attractive not to like!

India has the best batting line up but I'll stick with the English! They'll be my team but I don't have much confidence in them sadly because of their inconsistency.

You always need a batsman like Gayle in your side Daisy. Sledger though summed him up pretty nicely. The only thing that troubles Gayle is swing and seam movement because of his concrete feet. When that is out, bowling doesn't trouble Gayle. I've seen Harmison in his pomp to Gayle and Gayle still battered some pull shots with ferocious power yet got carried away and was going after pitched up ones and got his stumps rooted. Saw him start to carnage Lee in Barbados one time, then he drilled a bullet to mid off, similar like how he was out against Pakistan. Gayle plays spin quite well and the fastest of bowlers isn't much of a bother to him either.

Edited by spin wizard - 24 March 2011 at 7:17pm

In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.

Originally posted by Sledger

I often think that Gayle's temperament is the problem. There's been plenty written about his laid back persona - the archetypal West Indian , but could it be that cricket just isn't that important to him ? Whether he gets a big hundred or a big zero he leaves the field at that snail's pace - maybe he just doesn't value his wicket enough.

I remember very similar comments being made of Sehwag not too long ago. And then Gary came along. Maybe that is what Gayle needs the right mentor to get his mind back, Clear and Free...

I distrust a camel.. and anyone else who can go a week without a drink.

That's my point Sehwag was never so consistent until 3 years ago. Really seemed to be completely at sea under Greg Chappell's( Was never fond of Sehwag) term. Then Gary happened for India & Sehwag totally reformed as a player.
Another thing that probably works for Sehwag is he knows there's enough talent in the batting line-up to make-up in case he fails. Helps free one's mind .

I distrust a camel.. and anyone else who can go a week without a drink.

Sledger, it's the trait of Jamaicans, they are absolutely quite laid back so sometimes, by knowing that, I really don't get on Gayle's case because that. There is usually a saying when you ask a Jamaican to do something and they reply "soon come". That soon come actually takes a very long time. Gayle isn't emotional really so its hard to know whether he cares or not but if you noticed closely when he was out to Gul, he was a quite disappointed with himself, the facial expression changed and he knew he messed up big time.

Don't know if you guys ever paid attention to Marlon Samuels too but he's another that is very "cool". They are very relaxed personality most of the time and can't read much from them, they are poker faces.

Vote4peace, Sehwag has got some nasty natural talent, he mightn't be the best batsman the game has seen but his hand eye co-ordination has got to be up there with the very best and that's what has gotten him all that success. He was already getting back into touch before Gary came around by the way. He was a good player before, got dropped because he was outta nick (in ODI's anyway, he still was good in Tests) but came back a far better player.

Edited by spin wizard - 25 March 2011 at 5:08pm

In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.