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    Posted: 28 February 2007 at 12:51pm
Guys, Its not the wickets but the quality of the players what really matters.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 12:21am
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Dont forget, most of the pitches are brand new and so may not conform to the typical West Indies type pitch, so anything is possible.
Yes you are difinately right about that!!! They really prepared the pitches for the world cup here in the west indies (I think..LOL) so they should be pretty good pitches.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 12:22am
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Guys, Its not the wickets but the quality of the players what really matters.
Well the quality of players does matter much more than the pitches but I still think that the pitches do matter to a certain extent.Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wiseguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 4:37am
Originally posted by spin wizard

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but the soil is west indian only...its the soil that matters!! the pitches will all  be like they usually are in caribean!!

Awwwwwwww, the most sensible post I have ever seen from you!! Well done lad!
 
And Wisey, the WI pitches aren't like those in India! India have too many flat surfaces that suits no one else but the batters unlike the caribbean. If it ain't flat, it's a mine field!!!
 
True mate, but for some time the mine fields have been few and far between otherwise we have seen good batting pitches in west indies, and I believe the criteria for the world cup is to have good hard pitches mainly assisting batsmen, and hardly some assistance to the bowlers.
 
Probably we will have a few underprepared pitches that may well be mine fields. Infact pitches will play true in the earlier matches but new pitches usually crumble after a few matches and that will be the real time to actually see their real character!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dips_december Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 5:01am
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India will NOT play 2 spinners together in ANY match!!!!!!!
Well maybe yes but the experience which both of them can offer is immense .Also they have bowled well in tandem .But yes India have got the options of Sehwag ,Sachin ,YUvraj and Ganguly .I think Ganguly should be bowling more here .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 7:20am
Exactly yes!! there is less to compare btetwwen indian and windies pitches!! The sea breeze plays a vital role specially during the second innings of a day match in the carribean.
 
The pitches are not that flat there in windies unlike india.  they suit the medium pacers and reverse swing more. That is why Pakistan will miss razzaq the most. Agarkar might well be india's most successful bowler and Maharoof for Sri Lanka in these conditions.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote dips_december Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 8:20am
I agree zuhair ,if India have to win  Ajit and Zaheer will have to do the job upfront no matter how many runs Sachi ,Sourav and Dravid score .I wont be surprised if Ajit actually finishes as the highest wicket-taker .he is in good form and hope he continues that way .
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I think India is going to Top The group, without any doubt.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Naren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 9:12am
Hey friend, I am damn sure that India will be atleast in Semi final. I think you got Hurt by India's winning streak against u'r country 'England'.
Lost 7 of last 8 matches played......
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Dont be so  damn sure mate!1 Indian group is the most wide open one in the tournament. Dont underrate BD!! They are growing in confidence. Watch out for Shahriar Nafees And Moshrafe. These two can cost you the match on thier day. I feel this is one grooup where there stil is uncertaininty regarding the two teams going  to super 8!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by zuhair abbasi

The sea breeze plays a vital role specially during the second innings of a day match in the carribean.
 
Not quite sure about that! I know the tide plays a bit and it doesn't get that windy down here either!


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Post Options Post Options   Quote woodrose1983 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Dont be so  damn sure mate!1 Indian group is the most wide open one in the tournament. Dont underrate BD!! They are growing in confidence. Watch out for Shahriar Nafees And Moshrafe. These two can cost you the match on thier day. I feel this is one grooup where there stil is uncertaininty regarding the two teams going  to super 8!!
yes , absolutely you are right.Anything can happen.When BD have beaten Aus once , Kenya beat WI , and Zim beat SA.
 
But the chances that India will go down against BD is very much rare,hardly 1%. Also recently Indians won aginst SL so comprehensively which shows that there is a huge gap still between India and SL.
 
I dont agree that this gropu B is open , rather Group D is the Group of Death.Coz Irish are good enough and Zim have the experience.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rifat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 5:29pm
Originally posted by woodrose1983

Also recently Indians won aginst SL so comprehensively which shows that there is a huge gap still between India and SL.


Huge gap??? Dead Comprehensively??? Dead I am baffled, it was only 2-1.
DeadIndia were playing at home + SL were without Murali and Vaas, I wouldn't look too much at that series.


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I dont agree that this gropu B is open , rather Group D is the Group of Death.Coz Irish are good enough and Zim have the experience.


Zim, experienced??? LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2007 at 7:44pm
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I wont be surprised if Ajit actually finishes as the highest wicket-taker .he is in good form and hope he continues that way .
Yeah that won't surprise me either. I remember in the recent series when India came to the West Indies he was one of the best if the not the best bowler in that series. Many people say that the Indian bowlers will find these pitches here in the west indies difficult of bowl on but Ajit bowled amazing on it once so it means that he could do it again!!!!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dips_december Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 March 2007 at 3:54am
Yes and if Pathan gets his pace and zip back he will be more than a handful as well .I think Bangladesh have it in them to beat both india and sri lanka and they shouldnt be underestimated .Especially Shariar ,Saqibul and mehrab are in good form .Then they have Mortaza and Hosain at the top followed by the warehhorse Rafique and the other rookie spinners .I think they have a good chanve this time .I wouldnt say that India will definately make the semi finals but they are definately strong and balanced and experiecnced enough to do so .But our fielding is a major problem now that we have Kumble ,ganguly ,Dravid and Sachin who are all 33+ and are not as fit as some of the Aussies in the same age group .
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let's hope.
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i still feel BD might do it this time...either aginst SRL or id!! it just takes one good day mates!! and mind you they ar not that bad as they usd to be ever before!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miraz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 March 2007 at 2:27pm
It's gonna difficult to beat Bangladesh this time, that's for sure. Bangladesh is becoming a good ODI team and has definite ability to win against either Sri Lanka or India.

It's true, the possibility of both team defeating Bangladesh is more than Bangladesh defeating them. Admitting that, I must say, both India and Sri Lanka need to play their best to defeat Bangladesh.


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Yes i agree with u Miraz and you just cant trust the Indians they lose just too easily sometimes and we have seen this many a time .I think if Bangladesh can maintain the pressure  then the Indians might just succumb to it .
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As part of the final preparation, Sri Lanka and Bermuda are playing Scotland and England respectively on this monday.

Other group members, Bangladesh and India will take on the field on Tuesday and will play against New Zealand and Netherlands respectively.

It's gonna a tough test for Bangladesh and Bermuda against relatively stronger opponenets. For India and Sri Lanka, the situation is exactly opposite.
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These practice matches should do them good. I think South Africa did some training today as well.

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Sri Lanka will dominate this group, Indians will always struggle if the conditions donn't help the Batters.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote venjen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 March 2007 at 6:16am
Originally posted by woodrose1983

Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Dont be so  damn sure mate!1 Indian group is the most wide open one in the tournament. Dont underrate BD!! They are growing in confidence. Watch out for Shahriar Nafees And Moshrafe. These two can cost you the match on thier day. I feel this is one grooup where there stil is uncertaininty regarding the two teams going  to super 8!!
yes , absolutely you are right.Anything can happen.When BD have beaten Aus once , Kenya beat WI , and Zim beat SA.
 
But the chances that India will go down against BD is very much rare,hardly 1%. Also recently Indians won aginst SL so comprehensively which shows that there is a huge gap still between India and SL.
 
I dont agree that this gropu B is open , rather Group D is the Group of Death.Coz Irish are good enough and Zim have the experience.
you are making things little too exaggerating here. dont be so partial and make a fool of yourself.
Sri Lanka has the best combinations to use in all kinds of situations so that they are a much better side than India. Indians are dangeres only in flat tracks because of their batting and slow bowling options.  
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote venjen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 March 2007 at 6:30am
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Guys, Its not the wickets but the quality of the players what really matters.
Well the quality of players does matter much more than the pitches but I still think that the pitches do matter to a certain extent.Confused
 
Yes, but ultimately the mor adaptable & telented side will win irrespective of the pitch conditions. Smile
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Yeah very funny Naren.  And when was the last time India won anything abroad?
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see i told u !!! DONT under rate BD!!! they have now beaten NZL!! who were one of the favorits!! I told u, watch out for Moshrafe!!! Sharyar did not even play!! they are a nice unit of young and experienced talented players and capable of beating either ind or SRL or both!!
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Slow turning wickets with uneven bounce r the best wickets for SriLanka...Many times I have seen them winning on such tracks......Sanath, Murli, Arnold, Dilshan, bandara all these bowlers create problems on such tracks...Indian can handle their pacers but more than often their slow bowlers create problems for us.....so if trinidad wicket is bouncy than probably Indians will have an upperhand on SL

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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2007 at 4:06pm

I always thought that India struggle on Bouncy wickets!

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If India want to win this World cup Dravid MUST bat at 3. Not 5 or 6 and trying to resurrect the innings.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wiseguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 March 2007 at 7:38am
Indians had a good day with the ball, heartening to see irfan pathan amongst wickets, but the real star was patel. Sehwag still struggling and it would be worthwhile to see if indians include him in their first match over Uthapa and kartik showing better batting form!
 
Ganguly pulled out after bowling a few overs, and did not come back to bat, so I hope everything is right with him!
 
 
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