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Mojo 
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 Topic: Group D (West Indies, Pakistan, Ireland, Zimbabwe)Posted: 15 February 2007 at 9:36am |
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Zimbabwe may put up a fight, but I don't think they'll beat Pak or WI. If they do win, it would more likely be against Pakistan though, cos they have recently developed a tendency to give up before the fight is over.
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atifkamran
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 11:16am |
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Only s Africz can beat pakistan but south africa can't win from australia.
Afridi is not playing 1st match. they have only hafeez , i think they should take sulman butt as well .
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and shabir ahmed is also not availble .
Good luck pakistan.
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Mojo
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 11:53am |
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If you say so... They've done it before. Recently too.
They'll definitely need it.
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daisy77
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 11:05pm |
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Well the windies squad was announced and Pollard was included! That was a good decision. Hopefully he does not get too nervy and he is able to play his normal game.
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 12:53am |
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Great to see pollard in the squad but he is another version of Dwayne smith but a better batsman, always wan't to hit the ball out of the park and end up losing his wickets, like iin the match today against guyana he is on 26 and want to hit a wide and high length ball for six and ended up being caught at mid off after skying a ball. Anyway he is a great all-rounder and could be very important for windies in the worldcup
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joelza1990
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 4:53am |
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MMM Interesting group. I think West Indies and Pakistan should make it through, but Zimbabwe will be on there tails and Ireland will try as hard as they can.
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daisy77
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 5:35pm |
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What/?/!!!!! Are you crazy???
 Pollard is not at all another version of Dwayne Smith!!! Don't degrade him like that. Comparing any batsman or ever bowler/batsman to Dwayne Smith is a HUGE insult. NO ONE deserves to be compared to him! I have heard Pollard being compared to Lara though....even though I still think that no one could be like Lara. LOL. Anyway thing with Pollard is that maybe he hit kind of carelessly in that match that you mentioned but I don't think that he is generally a careless hitter like Dwayne Smith is. Careless hitters rarely make centuries because they usually take their own wickets before reaching that land mark but Pollard was able to get more than one century in this competition so far. Therefore, this has led me to believe that he is a good batsman. Entertaining and exciting yes but still we can't take anything away from him! |
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GreenCap
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 6:39am |
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I think Pakistan are 2much down at the moment. Not sure what gonna be their bowling attack. Team lacks spirit and when they enter the ground, it seems that they have a mind set that they are not going to win!!! So with this state of affairs, you might see even Zim beating them.
Sorry to see one of the best sides in such a disarray. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 7:51pm |
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Zim won't even beat my school team much more for PAK!
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daisy77
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 2:45pm |
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Don't be so negative when it come to Pak...As far as I see it this group is pretty even. In the recent series between Pak and the windies....Pak didn't have Asif or Shoaib and they still managed to beat us so don't think that they can't beat the windies again. As for the other teams in the group, I know that pak can DEFINATELY beat Zim and Ireland. Come on I think that even the windies could beat them so why not pak....
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Superbokkie
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 2:52pm |
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Home advantage may help the West Indies but realistically, Pakistan will be battle hardened after their tour of SA. With Yousuf, Younis and Afridi in top form and Asif taking wickets every five minutes, I think they will be very hard to beat. I'm picking Pakistan to go all the way to the finals and they are my second favourites after SA, whereas West Indies will compete with England for the wooden spoon in the Super 8. Home teams have a dismal record at the World Cup: Look at England '75, '79, '83, '87, Australia '92, India '96, England '99 and South Africa '03!
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daisy77
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 6:56pm |
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Let's don't go by stats.....maybe the windies will be the exception...at least I am hoping so. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 9:17pm |
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The only think that might be in PAK way is the Bounce. I think the surfaces will play like the one I saw in St. Vincent that is going to be used for the Warm up matches cause I am sure that Andy Roberts was incharge of the warm up venues too and it had real bounce. Collymore bouncers were going over the batsmen head and all!
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daisy77
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Posted: 21 February 2007 at 1:05am |
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Yeah I guess those Asians who are not used to the bouncy wickets are going to be under pressure.....
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 21 February 2007 at 6:43am |
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lets be realistic. This world cup might prove to be one of the closest contest ever. I would take a FIT pak team all the way to the semis alnogwith windies. Pak is far too bad at opening the batting, in comaprison to windies who are by far the best at the moment. But pak does have the bowling edge, if they play thier premir bowlers!! On windies pitches, afridi, malik n even hafeez would be more than useful. th elow bounce would also be useful for the out of form all rounder of pakistan!!
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Mojo
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Posted: 21 February 2007 at 7:24am |
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Afridi in top form??? Have I missed something here? As far as I can remember, Afridi's only had one good match with the bat in his last 20 or so matches.
He's certainly a dangerous player when it's his day, but let's be serious now. He's Pakistan's biggest disappointment 90% of the time. Younis however certainly has the consistency, and Yousuf is just top-class.
But Pakistan only has one decent bowler fit enough for the cup, and that is Asif. And even he's doubtful to play, because the Pak coach has stated that no player will go to the world cup without first having passed a dope-test. So good luck to him! I hope he passes it, cos he's really deserving of a place.
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daisy77
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Everyone has such high hopes for the windes. You all are setting yourself up for some serious disappointment.....I am not saying that they are not capable or that they are not going to win the world cup because I really want them to and I believe that they can ......but let's be logical......they are really inconsistant. Sometimes if the bowlers perform then the batsmen may not........they always manage to make you so nervous coming closer to the end of the ODI and to top things all off, in their last ODI series...I think against Pakistan...they lost it!!!!!!!!
How then can you call them the best at the moment?????? At the moment the teams that are really good would be NZ, SA and maybe you could say England. The west indies is definately NOT the best at the moment and that is coming from a totally dedicated windies supporter. |
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dhonifan
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 12:08am |
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Can someone please tell me if the first WC match West Indies and Pakistan in Kingston Jamaica will be a day nighter or day match?
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 1:43am |
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Day match mate, i think every one is full day match.
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dhonifan
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 2:01am |
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Awww
 I like day nighters.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 3:12am |
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I bet you're from the sub-continent.
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 2:30pm |
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Anyone knows the points system for the worldcup. How much for a win and how much points 1st and 2nd team carry over to the super eight.
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daisy77
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 9:27pm |
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I don't know the answer to your question BFM but that's news to me that all the matches in the world cup are day matches and not day nighters. I guess in a way it's a good thing....
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 10:10pm |
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Day nighters would of been better for me because i will be in school for most of the overs in full day matches.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 11:10pm |
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Day matches puts in a fairer contest and I like what they did. Well, it's mainly the fact that there aren't floodlights around in the stadiums in the caribbean. Only St. lucia has!
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dhonifan
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 11:31pm |
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I'm from Australia mate. |
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daisy77
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Posted: 25 February 2007 at 6:31pm |
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yeah the day matches will be fairer.....I didn't know that St.Lucia was the only place where there is flood lights...!!! That's crazy at least Barbados and Jamaica should have them as well!!!
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 6:37am |
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i like day nighters they are more fun to watch. they are more colorful. i hope the warm ups count as odi, so afridi can play against WI. It's going to be a very very tough tour for Pakistan.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 7:32am |
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i should have used the word BETTER instead of BEST..ma mistake!!
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 9:20am |
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Not very good news from Pakistan Camp, Shoab and Asif almost 90% to miss the world cup, they would be excused on the basis of injury. But the speculations have been that both players have secretly been tested for banned drugs, and the results do not suggest them to go for the world cup risking a life ban. Pakistan Captain and team officials will beat about the bush till the 11th hour as to keep the hopes of pakistanis around the world high and probably bookies interested, and finally they will declare themselves unfit for the cup.
A lot of us guessed such a senerio on this forum, but things are shaping up eventually like that, expect a few statement from pakistan as to both bowlers declared unfit for a month or so , but still are they too sick to just appear for a dope test ?
Probably Sami and Azhar Mehmood likely replacement, and with them pakistan's chances will go down the drain!
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so far so good!
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Group D (West Indies, Pakistan, Ireland, Zimbabwe)