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    Posted: 06 February 2007 at 9:50am
Group D discussion in here.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2007 at 3:06pm

Sabina park! The tempo will be high here especially if the Raggae boys get going. Sabina Park has been known to be one of the bounciest tracks in the world and Asians side do struggle a bit on them, but the ODI's can be high scoring at times and pretty normal at times. West Indies plays very well in Jamaica so it might be interesting to see who would top the group.

Jamaica has hosted a number of exciting matches and let's hope there are more in store.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MalikBrother Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2007 at 8:33pm
No doubt Pakistan will win Group D in all of the matches --  Hope to see Ireland batting in WC so soon  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Kerm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2007 at 8:37pm
Well i'd say there is quite alot of doubt, with the current Pakistan side and their stellar consistancy i'd say any games with them are up for grabs.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MalikBrother Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2007 at 8:39pm
Dont Forget abt the Shoaib Akhtar, Umar Gul and Shabbir Ahmed who are coming back to WC -- Pakistan has brighter chance to win  if not -- then  it would be poor performance  -
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Kerm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2007 at 8:44pm
Three players comming back from injury, lacking match practice, one of them a drug cheat, one that disrupts the side at that. Not going to strengthen an already fractured side.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2007 at 12:07am
Well, the way things look, if PAK wins the WC, there will be a lot of commotion going on. That's certain!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2007 at 5:37am
Surely the big two will progress , there can only be an upset if the Pakistanis implode.

      Is there still a carry over of points as in the last tournament? If there is , then the result of the two top contenders in each group will have some meaning.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote -JP- Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2007 at 9:46am
Yes Sledger, points are carried over.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2007 at 12:17pm

i guess these two teams wil make into the semis!! A lot will depend upon Pakistani players' availability. a full strength pakistan team would be enough of a challenge for al the opponents within and outside the group!!

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2007 at 12:24pm
I think it's abit too early to talk about the semi's but they should pass the group with ease.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2007 at 9:17pm
I don't know what to say if they can't pass the group stage. But it is pakistan! you never know what's up. i think every body would agree with that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2007 at 2:06pm
I don't care how unpredictable PAK is, they are gonna make it through the first round!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2007 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by MalikBrother

No doubt Pakistan will win Group D in all of the matches --  Hope to see Ireland batting in WC so soon  
Don't be too sure about that!Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2007 at 8:01pm
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Well, the way things look, if PAK wins the WC, there will be a lot of commotion going on. That's certain!!
I think he meant winning the Group, not the world cup Spin. But it's not beyond them to win the world cup.Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2007 at 8:03pm
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I don't care how unpredictable PAK is, they are gonna make it through the first round!
Yes I agree....I will even go as far as saying that the windies are going to make it to the first round even though we know how inconsistant and unpredictable they are....I just hope they don't prove me wrong though!Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Quote minimurali Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2007 at 2:41pm
I actually see this as being the most open group - Pakistan and WI haven't been the most consistent of late and Ireland and Zimbabwe shouldn't be afraid to dig into the big guns to try and snatch a great result. Pakistan and WI should be very wary and complacency could be their downfalls (either/both of them). Will be the group to look out for, for me. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2007 at 6:11am
This group's matches are going to be very interesting because of the nature of the two top dogs in this group. I don't like the idea of playing too many associates countries in this tournament. There should have been less teams and more matches between top 8 almost evenly matched teams, that would have been more interesting to watch than watching stronger teams beating the crap of weaker teams. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2007 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by minimurali

I actually see this as being the most open group - Pakistan and WI haven't been the most consistent of late and Ireland and Zimbabwe shouldn't be afraid to dig into the big guns to try and snatch a great result. Pakistan and WI should be very wary and complacency could be their downfalls (either/both of them). Will be the group to look out for, for me. 
I wouldn't exactly desribe West Indies as a big gun.....LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BackFoot Master Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2007 at 9:02pm
for pakistan own benefit , they better leave out rana when they played west indies or it will be 10 overs for 91 runs
i will feel so sorry for zimbabwe and ireland when they play west indies and pakistan as well. all the team dead meat

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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2007 at 10:44pm
Maybe west indies will bring out the best in Zim...LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2007 at 10:49pm
I was telling myself that I wasn't gonna waste time and watch the underdogs match but when I looked at it, when the 2 play against each other, it might be a cracker of a match. I am gonna see ireland for the first time.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2007 at 11:54pm
LOL...yes that's the spirit Spin.......don't ever count on the windies to win a match not even against Zim! I am with you there!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2007 at 11:57pm
Daisy actually has the windies as the underdogs. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2007 at 11:59pm

After their recent performance in the Pepsi cup can you blame me?????

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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 February 2007 at 7:15am
I would now go for west indies to top the group. I previously thought, that Pakistan and west indies would both make into the semi finals with Pk toping the group. but now i am forced to change my view, as Pakistan is now WITHOUT SHOAIB AKHTAR!! We only have one good bowler that is Asif!! Depleted bowling attack consisting of Rana and Sami wont help Pakistan!! This might be on of the worst world cup for pakistan!! And i tll you what, its only because Shoaib Akhtar  is out. had h ben there, i would have backed Pakistan to the semis.......
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 February 2007 at 7:58pm
Well I still think that Pak has the edge over WI even without Akhtar. You said that the Pakis only have one good bowler now......Asif...
But the windies does not have any good, experienced, exceptional bowler. Our best bowler is probably Taylor and he is quite inexperienced. I admit that he is very talented but he lacks experience. Therefore, when you compare one to none you will come up with Pak having an edge over the windies. Their batting line up is pretty good though...both windies and Pak. I should think that the batting line up between these two teams are evenly balanced.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2007 at 2:58am
West Indies have the more dangerous batters who could beat the ball and the better openers too. Pak has the likes of Inzy, Younis and Yousuf who would ensure a good total and not a rapid collapse like the windies guys do.
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O yes the biggest difference is that of openers!!! Pakistan's number 3 and 4 are mout in the middle in the 4th or 5th over. While windies openers normally go on to pile 100 runs often!! Although, if Pakistan plays its full team with Akhtar and Gul, then the balance might shift to Pakistan!! But without KAhtar, i would go for WeseIndies
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Their is not much to chose in this group, the only important matter would be who will top the group and take more points to the next round. Pakistan and west indies both will be shaky for the first match, west indies after loses in India are far from settled, and pakistan far far from even getting a completely fit side in. Windies will be backing on the home ground, pitch conditions and probably on gayle's influence early on in the match. Pakistan though will not be that Alien to the conditions, pitches more or less similar to the ones at home, feeling a bit confident after beating windies in the recent meetings comfortably, definately enjoying a mental edge on them. Ireland and Zimababwe probably will not have much of an effect in this group.

I believe both will definately qualify but chances of finishing ahead are even at this moment!



Edited by wiseguy - 15 February 2007 at 8:10am
so far so good!
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