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Abhilash Jose 
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Joined: 09 July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 2 |
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 Topic: hitting the ball twice with the batPosted: 09 July 2006 at 9:31am |
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Hi,
When playing with friends, there was an incident in which the batsman unintentionally hit the ball twice with the bat. (he was trying to play the pull shot and the second hit happened unintentionally just after the first hit on the ball). Couple of runs were ran after that. In this case please tell if it is with in rules to award the batting team with those 2 runs? Thank You Very Much, Abhilash |
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inzamam329
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Posted: 09 July 2006 at 9:37am |
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Thats perfectly fine! its unintentional...its only against the rules if a batsman intentionally hits the balls twice!
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Abhilash Jose
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Posted: 09 July 2006 at 9:46am |
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i too feel the same (as i was in the batting team) but the opposition does not agree. need to prove it by showing from the written laws of cricket. can anyone help me in this regard?
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dips_december
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The next greatest left arm spinner Joined: 31 March 2006 Location: India Posts: 5230 |
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Posted: 09 July 2006 at 9:49am |
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it is unintentional unless someone has seen Aamor Khan's Lagaan
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TCA123
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Joined: 24 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1637 |
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Posted: 09 July 2006 at 5:51pm |
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i was under the impression the batsmen may hit the ball twice wherever he wants - even for a 6. just he wouldnt get any runs for it. If your protecting your wicket thats fine, but what if your protecting your wicket and happen to belt it! no runs |
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darlo_lad
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Joined: 12 April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 612 |
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Posted: 09 July 2006 at 6:57pm |
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They can hit the ball twice if stopping the ball hitting their wickets if the ball is rolling towards the stumps.
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swerveman
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Posted: 09 July 2006 at 8:31pm |
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Here's a link to Law 34: http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/la w-34-hit-the-ball-twice,60,AR.html There's nothing in the law to say that it's OK to hit the ball twice accidentally, but you can take it from me that it's true. It happens frequently, and any runs gained from it are perfectly valid.
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still not out
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Joined: 15 May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 105 |
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 5:30pm |
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well that clears it up, well done swerveman!
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 13 July 2006 at 7:21am |
So I can hit the ball twice accidentaly, whens it not an accident though??? |
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TCA123
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Posted: 13 July 2006 at 4:07pm |
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when your not attempting to score of a 2nd hit.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 5:03pm |
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fortylicks
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 6:35pm |
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This is taken from the history of cricket on the wikipedia website. 1624 A fatality occurred at Horsted Keynes in east Sussex when a fielder called Jasper Vinall was struck on the head by the batsman who was trying to hit the ball a second time to avoid being caught. Mr. Vinall is thus the earliest recorded cricketing fatality. The matter was recorded in a coroner’s court, which returned a verdict of misadventure. Interesting.... Edited by fortylicks |
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 7:06pm |
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Ohhhh... How sad
 He is another of those players who died on a cricket field.
This is off topic, but once before a batsman hit the ball to long-on and started on a run and suddenly he fell down and died. Heart Attack!!!!!!!!! Edited by DRAVID FAN |
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TCA123
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 11:16pm |
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your right - off topic
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 6:38pm |
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Unintentional is okay. Intentional is not okay. As simple as that.
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cheech
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Posted: 21 September 2006 at 9:27am |
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i remember recently damien martyn did that. he did it against a young sri lakan team, or kenya, or some not so experienced team.
He hit the ball to bowler and started to run, but bbowler threw ball back. he was caught backing away and play a sorta walking backwards defensive. I think it was on the stumps too... i rekcon if the opposition had realised they could appeal, he woulda been out. that day my respect for martyn fell a bit... |
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mAni_paKi
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Posted: 21 September 2006 at 3:38pm |
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Well,when i use top play with my friend and if any one hits the ball twice wid the bat we declare him OUt! i dunnno y,but thats what we did here ;).
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blaa blaa blaa
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Black_cap_95
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Posted: 20 January 2007 at 9:17am |
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Once i played a back foot defence shot the ball was bouncing towards my stumps so i defended it again not trying to score runs and the fielders appealed and i was given out!
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go hard or go home
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 20 January 2007 at 8:33pm |
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Unlucky black cap, most umpires wouldn't give that out, still better to kick it off your wicket, as after you've hit it you can't be out lbw
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Chin Music
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Posted: 22 January 2007 at 11:01am |
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When it comes to hitting the ball a second time, the rules make no distinction between the bat and the person - if you intentionally hit it with either in an attempt to score your out, if you protect your wicket with either you're not out
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143no
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 11:43am |
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Unless of course you use a hand not holding the bat to protect your wicket, then your out. Any other part of the body is fine though.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 12:23pm |
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I believe the laws refer to "the person" taken to mean any part of the body with which it is legal to strike the ball and doesn't class as the bat, ie anything apart from the hands
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143no
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 12:33pm |
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Ahhh the magic words, I believe. I have always found it funny how somthing can be written in black and white yet 3 people can read it and come up with 3 different interpretations, but you are right about the person. My main point i guess was if the hands are holding the bat you could protect your wicket with your gloves, however once the had is removed you can't.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 12:52pm |
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Prezactly
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Vipera russelli
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 2:05pm |
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So pad bat shots that travel for runs are invalid according to this. Because it does not distinguish between what it hits.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 2:29pm |
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No because that's not intentionally hitting the ball twice
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143no
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Posted: 24 January 2007 at 5:35am |
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A lot of the laws are open to interpretation, 1 thing that annoys me though is the channell nine commentators, their knowledge of the rules is pretty poor for so called experts.
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