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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner
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Topic: ICC World T20 - West Indies 2010 Posted: 16 April 2010 at 1:32pm |
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Warner isn't just a swinger like Nazir, Warner at least connects properly very often. Warner pulls excellently, guys who just throw their bat normally ends up on the front foot and get caught in a tangle when the ball is short.
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kahmad
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Posted: 16 April 2010 at 1:39pm |
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Nazir is playing short balls better than the full balls. In my opinion in T20 a team like Pakistan can afford such a swinger.
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milkman
Middle-Order Batsman
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Location: Australia
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Posted: 16 April 2010 at 3:30pm |
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Warner has technique, he could be a good first class cricketer if given the shot.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
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Posted: 19 April 2010 at 4:46am |
Gul and Arafat have been oficially ruled out of World T20... big set back this for pakistan, esp. Gul who will be missed very badly.
Mohammed Sami and Mohammed Irfan are said to be the "likely" replacements. Apparently Mohammed Irfan is around 7 feet tall!!! may be Zuhair or some of our other pakistani members can tell us something more about him.
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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kahmad
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Posted: 19 April 2010 at 8:55am |
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Pakistan have 2 bowlers who can bowl good at the death. Rana and Gul. Now both are out and Pakistans chances to defend their title are gone.
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milkman
Middle-Order Batsman
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Location: Australia
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Posted: 19 April 2010 at 12:35pm |
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I heard about Irfan, the guy is huge... he'll be the tallest ever cricketer to play international cricket I believe. Although he's not too youthful. Pakistan will be a long shot to win, but look at the IPL - season 1 RR won the tournament with only 2 or 3 players of notability.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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BackFoot Master
Wicket-Keeper
Shades of Tendulkar
Joined: 15 June 2006
Location: Saint Vincent
Posts: 1686
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Posted: 20 April 2010 at 1:34am |
Most of the team have a good chance of winning, since it's such a short format. Warner is absolutely dangerous. I think if New Zealand really gets going with Mccullum, taylor, ryder and oram, they will be very much unstoppable
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August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law !
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Posted: 20 April 2010 at 7:12am |
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The chances of Oram getting going is on a par with getting going a clapped out car with a flat battery!
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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kahmad
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Posted: 20 April 2010 at 10:47am |
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Pakistan didn't selct good replacements to umar gul and arafat. We all know that sami is not that good a bowler. i am sure Rehman wont get a game. They have already so much spin options with Afridi, Ajmal, Hafeez, Fawad.
Shahzaib or Nazir would be better than Rehman.
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
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Posted: 20 April 2010 at 11:49am |
Irfan would still have been a better choice perhaps. Strange that Rehman has been selected because as pointed out by kahmed they already have so many spin options!!!
Sami is a good bowler, I think he should be given another chance.
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 20 April 2010 at 6:32pm |
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big blow for India as well, Sehwag has been ruled out of the tournament and Vijay has been named as his replacement. Although Viru was not in the best of forms his presence makes a big difference to the Indian side and we all know how devastating he can be...
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
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Posted: 20 April 2010 at 7:01pm |
Could be a blessing in disguise, shewag was not in great form though, but great players rise to occassion.
Replaced by Vijay, a nice replacement. I wish Robin should have been there aswell.
India made mistake in not taking Nehra in last year T20 IPL world cup(after his excellent showing in IPL2) and paid the price, hope that this time not picking Robin Uthappa does not haunt them later on.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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mystery
Opener
Joined: 15 January 2008
Posts: 2140
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Posted: 20 April 2010 at 8:23pm |
One more reason to hate IPL so many injuries this year plus next year they have more matches. I dont mind it but it will hurt Indian cricket badly their players will keep getting injured and again they will struggle in the world cup. Thankyou IPL. 
Edited by mystery - 20 April 2010 at 8:25pm
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
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Location: India1
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Posted: 21 April 2010 at 5:12am |
Infact IPL increases their chances, last time they did not play good coz going into the T20WC not many were in great form.It was evidant last time.
It's only Raina, Rohit and Vijay in some good nick, Dhoni fired just last match. Hope Yuvi,Pathan and Gambhir find their form going to WC.This is where we are missing Robin Uthappa, he should have been in sqauad instead of Yousuf Pathan/Jadeja.
With Bhajji,Zak and Nehra bowling lineup is very good.It will be difficult for any lineup to hit these guys consistently.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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dips_december
Number 3 Batsman
The next greatest left arm spinner
Joined: 31 March 2006
Location: India
Posts: 5230
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Posted: 21 April 2010 at 10:13am |
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Nehra, Vinay and Praveen are of the same type Raj! They can be brilliant and deadly on their day and pathetic the next. You might say that T20 is such a game where the bowlers are bound to have bad days but there needs to be a certain level of consistency. Piyush Chawla's selection also baffles me given the fact that Ojha is the purple cap holder and Mishra is at number 2!
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
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Location: India
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Posted: 21 April 2010 at 10:27am |
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I hink spinners will do well in the west indies and perhaps IND should have gone in with 2 regular spinners instead of a pace bowler. Vinay, Praveen and Nehra may leak runs heavily,
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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milkman
Middle-Order Batsman
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Location: Australia
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Posted: 21 April 2010 at 12:34pm |
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Who will fair better, express bowlers or medium pacers? I remember in the WC in 2007 Tait and Malinga, more on the express side, did very well. But McGrath, more of a medium pacer also did well, but he always did an excellent job!
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006
Location: Pakistan
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 7:43am |
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On Pakistan alternatives for Gul and Arafat - there should not be this much of debate. Both wont get a game to play most likely. Pakistan will go ahead with the trusted trio of Aamer, Asif and Razzaq in the pace department and Hafeez, Ajmal anad Afridi in the spin.
On Mohammad Irfan, he is tall, very tall but certainly not the tallest, he is 6'8 and a good bowler but nothing exceptional. He lacks pace which does not help him as he drops the ball too short too often.
Pakitsna may well play Kahlid Latif and Akmla as openers and sacrifice Fawad.
Heard that there is a drought in windies which suggests that the pitches might be lower and slower. Advantage - spin.
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kahmad
First Slip
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 8:22am |
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if its true that the wickets in WI are slow, then Australian Attack would be the best for the opponent sides to use some pace. Australia have Clark as best spinner in the side at the moment and i think spin department could be a handicap for this side.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
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Location: Pakistan
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 9:04am |
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Last I checked Clark was bowling medium pace and I dont think he is in the squad even if he has started spin bowling all of a sudden.
Aussies spin attack is good enough, but it will depend more on how the batting sides tackle good spin bowling. this is where BD can be mighty effective - both Pak and aus cannot take the group game against BD lightly
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law !
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 10:37am |
Originally posted by kahmad
if its true that the wickets in WI are slow....
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Barbados won't be slow mate !
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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kahmad
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 10:54am |
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi
Last I checked Clark was bowling medium pace and I dont think he is in the squad even if he has started spin bowling all of a sudden.
Aussies spin attack is good enough, but it will depend more on how the batting sides tackle good spin bowling. this is where BD can be mighty effective - both Pak and aus cannot take the group game against BD lightly |
Micheal Clarke is a decent left arm spin bowler. In this format BD is definetly in with a chance. Pakistans Bowling will also depend more on spin.
Edited by kahmad - 22 April 2010 at 11:27am
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mystery
Opener
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 11:14am |
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Its Michael Clarke mate.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner
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Location: Saint Vincent
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 1:46pm |
For the last 2 weeks, it's been raining enough in St. Vincent to freshen up the Earth. The weather hardly differs that much in the Caribbean, well, except in Guyana, which always seem to rain whenever Cricket is around!
St. Lucia pitch has been relaid 2 years ago and since then, it has been harder, faster and bouncier. Barbados is never a slow pitch, it's tremendous for batting if you can bat though.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
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Location: India
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 7:00pm |
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I hope it doesn't rain while the tournament is on Spinny!
on PAK, whatever side they field, I think their chances will rest highly on how some of their key players perform. I also get a feeling that Umer Akmal might have a big tournament.
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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milkman
Middle-Order Batsman
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Posted: 23 April 2010 at 4:42am |
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If the wickets favour fast men than slow men then surely Australia and SAF could go a long way into this tournament.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
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Location: Pakistan
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Posted: 23 April 2010 at 7:15am |
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SAF will lose in the semis anyways
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kahmad
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Posted: 23 April 2010 at 8:33am |
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I think Australia is hot favourite for this competition. After them their are lot others like SA, Pak, Ind, SRL, NZL & WI. SRL has a very good bowling attack but unfortunately their batsmen are not in good form as last year. Thanks to ipl they dont have enough time to get their confidence back.
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
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Posted: 23 April 2010 at 7:50pm |
Originally posted by sam_ahmed
I also get a feeling that Umer Akmal might have a big tournament. |
I doubt , you are expecting too much too soon , let him develop , he has long way to go sam.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
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Location: Pakistan
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:28am |
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It could well be an early exit for Pakistan - even if they have one bad game. Pakistan's group is the group of death in this tournament - no team can afford to be complacent in their first matches.
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