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    Posted: 20 July 2011 at 10:37am
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The 3rd seamer will be important because for some years now Lords has been a batsman's dream. Sreesanth can be a real handful or a liability and I think v4p's right , they need someone to contain the batsmen , so he could well be carrying the drinks.



 That true, also since both Ishant and Sreesanth takes the longest to get through their overs we could see the team go in with just one among them, esp since Dhoni just one over-rate violation from getting a one-match ban. Another reason why Sreesanth should be warming the bench, I guess.



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Anyone got a magic potion whereby the rain gods take a holiday ?


 Oh please tell me than ain't gonna be a problemo.. Someone.. anyone?? Angry Cry
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2011 at 1:48am
Couple months back, I had India with a good favourite to do well but its just lately it has struck me that Sehwag will miss about 3 tests.  As far as i'm concern, and I don't think i'm far from wrong, Sehwag is one of the biggest reason, i'd go as far and say more so than Sachin, why India have done so excellently recently.  When he provides start, its so much more easier for that classy line up to work its magic.  Sachin is pure class, more so than Sehwag, but Sehwag is just like Adam Gilchrist, puts the game beyond your reach when they score centuries!
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  Another five hours to go for the historic Test #2000 to get underway. Also the 100th epic encounter between these two teams. It perfectly fitting that a test of such significance be held at the 'Mecca', the Home of cricket @Lords!

  I believe this tour gonna be 'the' toughest test for Team India this season . For me this English side in their own backyard on current form will pose a stiffer challenge to India than the South Africa tour they'd encountered earlier this year. Not a lot separating this english pace attack from the SouthAfrican one on these conditions. The fact that they've got a class act like Swann will mean they'll be posing more questions of this Indian line-up.

 Come to think of it , I'd reckon their Top 6 or 7 purely on current form may even outweigh their Indian counterparts. Sachin though been away for sometime (6months from test cricket) has got the experience and the skill to find his groove quickly, can't say the same of Ghambir. Dhoni's form continues to be a worry, and yes the void left by Sehwag changes the dynamics of the team completely. But this Indian team possesses immense mental strength and have come off better in the past whenever the odds were stacked against them. I see no reason why they shouldn't surprise us again.

 P.S: The last test series India won in England they did it without Sehwag. So hopefully that's a pointer they can follow. Of course this current English team miles ahead of that previous team in terms of experience, confidence and self belief. 

 All in all a mouth watering clash, can't wait!!! (Damn office)


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2011 at 6:45am
Yes , exciting times just around the corner !  I'm hoping that the pitch is a damn sight livier than the one for the Lankan test.  If it is then all the batsmen will find the going pretty tough - I'm a great fan of Anderson , but Zaheer Khan isn't that far behind him and Ishant has really come back to something approaching his best. Tremlett will be a handful , but if the opening bowlers don't break through then the back up 3rd seamer will have a huge job on his hands.  England should have the advantage in this department as long as Broad pitches it up ! Munaf will be steady , but I don't see him running through a strong English line up.
                  It's going to be a real tussle and I think the wicketkeepers will be massively influential.  Dhoni leads from the front and has turned a modest total into a winning one on many occasions. Prior's glove work has improved dramatically and his batting is very easy on the eye as well.  Because England's batting in recent times has been solid he's scored his runs without too much pressure . I'll be interested to see how he goes if England are something like 140-5 and Harbhajan is bowling when he gets to the wicket.    
                 Finally , how much influence will Fletcher have , he knows most of the English batsmen better than Flower does !
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Win the toss and??? Bat??

And I don't think they will play Munaf
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Post Options Post Options   Quote vote4peace Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2011 at 11:18am
 Dhoni calls it right at the toss and will have a bowl. PK wins the 3rd seamer slot. The English camp selection goes pretty much along expected lines. Right so here we go. Seat belts fastened.

 Darn the Rain!!!  Please stay away. Unhappy Ermm


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First blood to Zaheer.  Cook was overly cautious in my view and he had his problems with left armers, so it was not a surprise that Zak got him.
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Khan bowled really well but a typical English day, rain..... 
 
Another pointer, balls not carrying to the keeper on day 1?  What's happening?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2011 at 3:33am
ENG did well to reach 127/2 but I think this match might well be a draw given the forecast for days 4 and 5, we might still get good play today and tomorrow.

Zaheer is apparently inured again and India are worried about his fitness levels. If Zaheer's injury is a serious one then India are in serious trouble.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2011 at 6:41am
India missed out on day 1 - conditions were fantastic for both swing and seam. Too many balls in the wrong areas and now the worry that Zaheer could have a serious hamstring problem.  Dhoni should have swallowed that chance to get rid of Trott - he just didn't commit and gave Dravid no chance. The earlier chance off Harbhajan's 1st ball caught Dravid napping - I think he wasn't switched on , he's taken many a catch that was as sharp as this one.
                So Trott had a charmed life and I still worry about Pietersen's wandering about the crease before delivery. Go look at KP circa 2005-7 and he was very solid and still as the ball left the bowler's hand - I think his head's still scrambled.
                 The pitch is unlikely to deteriorate too much and I can't see there being that much help for the bowlers for the rest of the match. There should be some hlep though and if there's any swing , Anderson will exploit it better than the Indians have done so far. 
                 So what's a good total for England in this innings ?  If Zaheer is out they'll be looking for 400-450 , but if he's okay 330-350 should be competitive.   India need to strike early this morning , KP needs to knuckle down , they'll be after him.
                 The forecast isn't great for today , with more showers expected. It could be an on-off sort of day , but hopefully a lot more cricket than we saw yesterday. The good news is for fair dry weather for the remaining 3 days , so a positive result for either side is still possible.  
                  If England do win this I think Anderson will be the matchwinner, with help from Trott whose record at Lords is becoming something special !
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 Oh Ratsss!!! There goes India’s chance in this match. Zak likely to miss the rest of the match. What a  Pity,  his contest with the batsmen was really a compelling watch. Superb display of seam and swing bowling.  Hopefully its not one of those 15-20 days hamstring. Other than him no one else made good use of the conditions. Praveen did trouble the batsmen whenever he landed the ball in the right zone, but it was far too few. Ishant struggled with his radar the whole day. Bhajji was just okay, but that could’ve changed had he got that wicket 1st ball, totally different bowler once he strikes early.

 

   Overall fair to say that England holds the advantage after  a rain-marred Day 1. But not that far ahead either.  Could easily turn around with a couple of early wickets  tomorrow.   India  certainly would be the happier of the two with the rain intervention esp since it followed on the heels of Zak's departure, the incident did seem to have an effect on the rest. Everyone’s shoulders just dropped.

 

 

 Smart batting by England to see out a testing morning session with the loss of just a wicket, instead of trying to impose themselves going after the bowlers. Now that Zak out of the way they could easily up the tempo. Good batsmen make the most of their chances and Trott  doing just that.

 

  Really frustrating , now India gonna play catch up, try to hang in there, Unless someone else decides to man up and produce a two wicket spell from somewhere early tomorrow . And honestly other than Praveen (surprisingly) , no one else looks like that bowler.

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Brilliant sunny skies this morning at Lords and no Zaheer to worry the English batsmen.  That's a huge plus for the homeside , Zaheer is far and away their best bowler.  There's murmers around the ground that Dravid will do some keeping today so that Dhoni can send down a few overs - now there's a surprise !
                Surely Pietersen will see that this is a fantastic opportunity to make a telling contribution , he just needs to apply himself.
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Steady progress without many fireworks from the home side.  Pietersen was again all over the place and missed out on some juicy half volleys on legstump because he's moved so far out side off !  Trott's dismissal was a real surprise because he didn't look in any trouble until an effort ball by Kumar had him playing across the line , he missed and was gone , lbw.
             Bell looks in fine touch and punished anything from Harbhajan that was slightly short or wide. Pietersen did show more urgency in the last 20 minutes before lunch , but it still wasn't convincing.  It's going to be a long day for India and they have to decide if the new ball's worth taking.  Whatever they do , Harbhajan is going to have a lot of work today and that extra time because of the rain yesterday is going to leave them pretty tired by the close.
            The old England would mess up from here , but this side's more clinical and I expect them to really pile on the runs and look to have a bowl sometime around lunchtime tomorrow.
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Dhoni did take the ball for 5 years and nearly got KP twice. The balance in the bowling line is just not there. Praveen is more of a condition bowler - when things are not favourable, he is a pedestrian at best.  250/3, 60 overs remaining - it could be a long day in the field especially without Zaheer.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2011 at 6:46pm
long day it was for India, 474 by England, a double century for KP who gets back in form and ENG firmly in the drivers seat and if the weather stays good they have a great chance to win this match.

India have started their innings and will be very important for them to see off the day with out losing any wickets and then start off all over again tomorrow morning.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2011 at 8:31am
The forecast for the rest of the test looks fantastic with sunshine expected every day!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2011 at 12:05pm
Hopefully it will be good weather as it is such an occasion that we want lots of cricket.

First hour on Saturday has passed, Broad is noticeably pitching it up more than he has tended to, and no surprise he is looking good, having just castled Gambhir with a beauty. I hope he continues in the same vein.
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Honours even at lunch. Two masters at the crease and the pitch seems to have settled. England could be in for along day if they don't strike early post lunch
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2011 at 2:36pm
More pitching up from Broad brings him wicket number 3, the big one of Tendulkar this time; you don't often see a bloke get a standing ovation for 34, but the people want to show their appreciation.

As I type Strauss has just dropped a sitter that would have made 4 for Broad.

edit: Swann then dropped a slightly harder chance in the same over.

Broad has to keep calm and keep doing what he is doing.


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The Laxman drop has not cost them dearly. Dravid one might still cost them big. India 5 down and Swann showing just why is he the leading spinner at the moment
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2011 at 3:29pm
i was really hoping that the replays would show the Raina LBW was missing leg stump by 6 feet, shame it was clipping (apparently - I'm not convinced).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2011 at 7:48pm
another ordinary batting display by the Indians barring Dravid and I have to say a decent effort by Mukund but once again the batting failed to click.

India are very heavily dependent on Zaheer for wickets and they are desperately missing Sehwag at the top whose quick fire 60-70 used to gie India the momentum at the start of an innings.

ENG well in control 193 ahead with 2 days to go, I reckon they would look to score around 230 in just over 2 sessions and given india a fair amount of 3rd session to bat and chase a target of around 425.
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Great day of test cricket and Broad bowling a fuller length looked back to his best. Sorry to say I was glad to see the back of Tendulkar. As much as I respect him the media and commentators have drove me insane, why don't they just get a room!
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I was absolutely thrilled for Dravid making his hundred, and his reaction showed what it means to make a century at Lords, even for this most understated of cricketers: the bloke is easily one of the best batsmen ever to play the game but has never got the full appreciation he deserves through the sheer quirk of timing that saw him play at the same time as Sachin.

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Originally posted by Sledger

The big poser - will Tendulkar finally make it onto the Lords Honours Board after all these years ?    I wouldn't bet against him !


Sachin has one more realistic chance I guess but Dravid's certainly made it. What a brilliant knock it was.

The test match is very much in England's favour unless the batting collapses misreably and the weather intervenes. 60-70 odd overs of batting and India might well be struggling to save this one. Poor starters yet again one must say! Although one can put a part of the blame on Zaheer Khan's shock injury!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2011 at 11:56am
It's hardly a shock injury dips - players are suffering the consequences of prioritising T20 cricket ahead of the real stuff, so Zaheer and India have only themselves to blame.
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This match has Ashes 2010 written all over it - England getting a big first innings total, with a batsman making a huge score (Pietersen) and then the other team making an abysmal first innings score. Not a bad habit for England... all these 400+ scores that is.
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India close at 80/1, which is a good score but this partnership is the key for India and one has to wonder for how long can Dravid carry on? Gambhir is also injured apparently, sachin is down with viral infection and Zaheer obviously didn't play any part with the ball even in the 2nd innings, although I think all of them will turn up to bat I do not think India can survive for another 98 overs tomorrow, it will be very difficult, but if they can then well done.

Broad has bowled really well in this test and has looked like gettinga  wicket every time he has come on to bowl, Prior has once again shown his worth in this English team and I'm amazed that such a fine player isn't a part of the ODI set up, I think Prior is miles ahead of Kieswetter or Davies.
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A fascinating weekend's cricket with Broad and Ishant coming back to something approaching their best. Dravid , Prior and Broad batted beautifully , the paying public got their money's worth. The wicket seems to have flattened out and getting those 9 wickets won't be easy.  Because of Tendulkar's absence yesterday he still has to wait over 2 and a half hours or another 4 wickets before he can appear probably for the last time in a test at Lords.  If he does bat at 7 we could see him run out of partners - imagine him on 90-odd when the last wicket falls - a tragedy indeed!
                 England really have to win this after all the bad luck that India have had. First Zaheer , then Sachin's illness and then that painful blow to Gambir's elbow. No fracture though , so he'll be in after the fall of the first wicket today.  It'll be hard work though as I don't think India will attempt to get the runs . So at least 98 overs today in what should be fine batting conditions. If India get the draw they'll feel like they've won and head for the 2nd test in confident mood.
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 India's fortune continues to spiral down from bad to worse . 1st Zaheer now Gauti and Sachin. Though both most likely to come out on Day 5, question lingers whether they a 100% . Sachin will have to wait at least until the first hour of the post-lunch session or the loss of five wickets to make his return for one last time to the Lord's.

  The Indian bowlers looked a lot more keener on the field ,particularly Ishant who seemed to have broken the shackles, until some excellent rearguard action from Prior and Broad.

  England clearly on top and will be looking to leave no stone unturned on Day 5. India surely in for a tough fight and, in Dravid and Laxman, have got two of the most ideal players for such situation. These two have shared between them many  a historic partnerships and bailed India countless times from the Big croc's jaws in the past. They thrive on such occasions (tailor-made fro them) But this time, considering that Raina or Dhoni may walk in at the fall of the next wicket, it could be one of their toughest tests just yet.

 I do see England wrapping this game by the 2nd or early into the third session and a Laxman century go in vain.


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