ODI Tri-Series - Bangladesh,India,Sri Lan

Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84 Mighty (Karthik,Gambhir and Kholi) vs good SL Bowlers; Weak (Dilshan,Tharanga,Jayawerdene,Sangakara,Samaraweera,Kadamby) vs Pathetic Indian Bowlers.   Indian bowlers are really pathetic in comparison to SL bowlers, because SL bowlers were bowling to a Mightly line up while Indian bowlers were bowling to a Weak batting lineup.

The above post was clearly 2 hrs before your post sam.

Understand this Raj, IND had their batsmen to score the runs, PAK didn't. when did India got bowled out for 139 chasing 176? It's not a question of poor bowling at all, their batting just can't stand up and deliver. You can't expect their bowlers to bowl AUS out for 50 in every innings.

Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84 Originally posted by sam_ahmed ... and then you say you are not biased? ... I personally don't mean to say that IND's bowling is pathetic... but I do consider them to be weak as compared to that of some other nations.   You love logic right sam , here you go with some... You had posted that Pakistani bowling must be happy because they bowled Aussies twice in their own den. You also said some of Indian bowlers are not even half as good as Pakistani bowlers.   2007-08 series, India tour Australia Weak (Jaques,Hayden,in form uninjured Ponting,Symonds,Gilchrist) vs Pathetic Indian bowling attack.   Results- 2-1 in favour of Australia , No UDRS   2009-10 series, Pakistan tour of Australia Mighty ( Watson,Hughes/katich,out of form injured Ponting,North,Haddin) vs  Mighty Pakistan bowling attack.   Result - 2-0 trailling , UDRS available   I don't know who is biased , decide for yourselves.

Check the batting/bowling the other way...

I dont see much different between two bowling attack you are showing.

Kohli is in terrific form... hits another ton!!! Poor guy will have to make way when Sachin and Sehwag return... Such is the strength of India's batting!!! These are dangerous signs for other teams with the WC in the subcontinent... 

I think it's more the attitude now that has changed and the approach towards the game... no wonder Rahul, Ganguly, Azhar, Sachin were better players but at that time IND lacked that killer instinct... they were unbeatable at home but were pathetic abroad. The younger players may not be as classy as those but they have that fearless attitude and have adapted to modern cricket very quickly. However, will they be able to do it in the longer version of the game (after Sachin, Dravid and VVS depart) is a different story. I still don't think Yuvi is the right replacement for Ganguly... we had already seen that on the tour to Australia.

Was going through the statsguru and performed the simple analysis if Indian bowling in the recently passed decade. Indians among all test playing nations have leaked most runs per wicket and they exceed the average by 5 runs. Therir RPO is also higher than any other side and beats the average by a good 8 percent. Even against the Bangladesh, their bowlers have performed the worst among all test playing nations averaging 5 runs more for every wicket and leaking 10 percent more runs per over. this should settle the debate of the inept Indian bowling, which makes me believe that they can't stay on top for a longer period. It is their batting which as saved their grace for such a long period.

Agree completely. we all know India's batting is still the finest and has shielded their bowlers all these years.

India in last 5 years(bowling records)
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/6.html?class=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2009;spanmin1=01+Jan+2005;spanval1=span;team_view=bowl;template=results;type=team
-------------     Span Mat Won  Lost Tied  Draw  W/L  Ave     RPO   HS    LS
filtered 2005-2009 51   20    10      0     21      2.00  35.79  3.33  760  84

Pakistan in last 5 years(bowling records)
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/7.html?class=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2009;spanmin1=01+Jan+2005;spanval1=span;team_view=bowl;template=results;type=team
-------------     Span Mat Won Lost Tied Draw  W/L   Ave     RPO   HS    LS
filtered 2005-2009 38   10    14    0     14       0.71  38.79  3.50  644  73

Its becuz it is showing against all teams and most people know this Indian bowling lineup is too weak even Ian Chappell is saying that same thing everyone cant be wrong stop trying to proof everyone wrong mate only Khan is a good bowler otherwise all other currently are very ordinary bowlers.

Edited by mystery - 12 January 2010 at 7:13pm

Hold on Raj!!!! Did I not mention one day record? My fault if I did not. this is a one day series thread so I performed it for one games excluding Zim and BD!!! Go have a look yourself too matey.

As per that logic, calculating RPO for tests doesn't make sense.

Edited by sam_ahmed - 13 January 2010 at 6:32am

I will explain why it makes sense in Test and why not in ODI's. In leisure, have patience.

Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi Sanga wins the toss, puts India into bat. So the final has been decided - right? Let's go to sleep for 6 hours and watch the presentation ceremony.

Now if they are worth what they are , they should win this. EDIT : I mean India

Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 13 January 2010 at 7:49am

63/5 ... it has been perhaps the worst tri-series I have ever seen, win the toss and win the game... how can the ICC allow such events?