Shane Warne

Originally posted by Tiger Massive flintoff is da top player.

Can we stop with the Yat speak please? It really isn't that difficult to type one more letter.

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 the ICC suspended shabbir from international cricket until he changes his action and shows that he doesn't straighten his elbow more than 15 degrees.

True , under scrutiny he passed the test. Lawson also passed the test after he was first reported , but was subsequently reported again.

My feeling is that the man undergoing the testing works very hard NOT to chuck whilst under observation. That might be obvious , because it's their livelihood we're talking about here , but they're not out in the middle. My belief is that players with defective actions will always transgress - especially when trying for an "effort" ball.

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 that the rule is changed, it means that he no more chucks because he is allowed to straighten the elbow 15 degrees and he does occasionally as you said. So even if he does straighten his elbow 15 degrees, it doesn't matter now cause the rule has already been changed and you can't say that he's chucking.

That's my point entirely! To keep Murali in world cricket they changed the rules! A lot of traditionalists around the world are not happy with the shifting of the goalposts. Go back to the 60's and the likes of Giffen and Lock were banished because they breached the rules. Lock came back , poor old Giffen did not. What was so sad was that he couldn't straighten his arm due to a deformity - that didn't help him though , he was forced out.

The problem of chucking is going to haunt the ICC after this rule change. Already , Lawson , Shabbir and Harbhajan Singh have been in the spotlight - in my veiw , quite correctly too. All three have suspect actions , with Lawson and Shabbir the most blatently guilty. But our friendly neighborhood ICC has cleared them all to play again - I fear we'll have baseball pitchers before the decade is out!

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 Muttiah does not chuck and The ICC has already cleared that up so there needs to be no fiddling with the rules and regulations. .

Then explain why the degree of flexion was increased from 10-15 degrees! He doesn't chuck every ball , but far too many for my liking.

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 yea currently he is probably the best bowler but as soon as he's gone muttiah is gona break his record of most test wickets.

Be thankful that you're alive now - Warne is a living legend and the finest slow bowler in the whole history of cricket. Murali is a smashing fella , but he chucks....no amount of fiddling with the rules by the powers that be in the ICC will change that .

yea currently he is probably the best bowler but as soon as he's gone muttiah is gona break his record of most test wickets.