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    Posted: 08 September 2006 at 12:41pm
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NEW DELHI: With the term of Kiran More, chairman of the national selection committee, having unofficially come to an end, the race for the next leader has already begun. According to insiders, former India skipper Dilip Vengsarkar is the most likely choice to take over this tricky mantle in the year of the World Cup.

Left-arm spinner Venkatapathi Raju is likely to be the other new face in the panel. He is expected to come in place of South Zone's VB Chandrashekar, whose term also ends later this month.

According to the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) secretary, Niranjan Shah, South Zone and West Zone are yet to shortlist their proposed candidates for the selection committee. But a source in the cricket board confirmed that Vengsarkar is the front-runner from West Zone although the name of Dhiraj Parsana has also cropped up. If Vengsarkar gets the green signal and he is agreeable, he will be the chairman too.

Interestingly, West does not follow the rotation policy among its affiliate states while selecting its candidate. South, however, strictly goes by rotation which means it will be Hyderabad's turn this time. Raju is the clear favourite at this moment. The new selection panel will be endorsed during the board's AGM in Mumbai next month. The other three selectors -- Bhupinder Singh (North), Ranjib Biswal (East) and Sanjay Jagdale (Central) -- are likely to continue for one more year. "The shortlisting generally happens a week before the AGM and the candidates are proposed by different zones," Shah said. He confirmed that the chairman of the panel "is picked on the basis of seniority in terms of Tests played and not on age."

But there is catch. A source said: "Some of the proposed names might agree to take up the job only if the BCCI makes the selection committee a professional body and pays them adequate remuneration."

"That is unlikely to happen so soon," countered Shah. "But who knows? We might have a salary structure for the selectors too in the future. As far as the chairman of the selection panel is concerned, we are yet to decide on it."

In the meantime, former BCCI boss and a very prominent member of Sharad Pawar's team, IS Bindra, has already given a proposal to make the selectors paid officials. He believes selecting the team for the nation is not an honorary job. It is now up to the other members of the working committee to decide whether they want to take up the issue seriously or not.

http://cricket.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1956887.cms

 

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And now to add some more spice into this :...................

More argues on having longer tenure for selectors :

 

 

 

 

Kiran More, whose high-profile and controversial four-year term as chairman of selectors comes to an end later this month, has said that, contrary to popular perception, he was not anti-Ganguly and believed Ganguly could still make a comeback into the national side.

"Sourav was in a difficult phase," he told Hindustan Times when asked about one of the toughest decisions of his tenure. "He was captain and had been a great player ... All of us had debated it long and I was very clear about it. The media hype made things worse. But when you are dropped, you need good people around you. I have been dropped and went through that phase when people around you attribute reasons to the dropping. India's culture is such that a person's dropping affects not just him but his parents, family, friends and the city. Soon, you forget about performing and instead, put on a performance. It is tremendous pressure and takes your focus off cricket."

However, he asserted that he is "not anti-Ganguly" and believed that Ganguly can make a comeback. "A strong domestic performance, a place in the team management's plan, an open slot. Most cricketers make five-six comebacks. I am not anti-Ganguly. I am against no one. Sometimes players get dropped and they glare at you, stop wishing you. Players have said a few things to me, have argued, I have put it out of my head."

More also felt the board needed to be flexible about the terms given to the selectors. "If someone is good, give him a longer term, even seven-eight years," he said. "Otherwise, if every year the appointment has to be made, then obviously a selector comes under pressure. He is only human."

Despite many criticisms against the selection system - John Wright, the former coach, went to the extent of comparing it to "horse trading" - More spoke about the benefits of having such a policy. "The system per se is not that bad, you need zonal representation because in a country as large as India, you need to see players from all over. Then, I don't think that if a selector is unpaid, he is not professional. Still, I agree selectors should be paid. They spend too much time doing this job, away from family and regular commitments.

"We tried to remove a zonal bias, and even in the West Zone we've tried to make changes. I am human, I can make mistakes but as long as I have done so in good faith, it is OK."

More also spoke about one of his biggest disappointments. "I really have to think [about regrets] but probably, Aakash Chopra. [He was] a fantastic talent and great temperament and we really believed in him and supported him after his knee injury but somehow, he just shut himself down - mentally more than technically, I think.

"If you see his scores before he played for India, they were all big, but then he slowed down. Perhaps what affected him was the media hype about technical perfection, about him being the best-equipped Indian opener in a long time, maybe technique took him over. It can be difficult to deal with, I know him very well and wondered. Only, the doors aren't shut for him, for anyone. An outstanding season, win a couple of games for your state, you're back in contention."

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Oh come on couldn't that have been summarized???

Anyway has anyone heard about the Indian movie that Lara and Sachin are supposed to be acting in to promote the cricket world cup????? I heard something like that but I don't know if it is true or just a rumor that someone made up. Does anyone have any clue????

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just out of interest, before going and making a thread.... is there any cricket related poems/songs people have to share with others... i know i have a few... some inspirational, others just for a laugh.. any takers ???
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Post Options Post Options   Quote daisy77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 September 2006 at 5:52pm
It sounds like a great idea Clapo....I have 2 poems as well... It would be a great idea to start a thread about that.  I think a while ago there was in fact a thread about cricket poems but I don't remember there ever being a thread about cricket songs. I look forward to your new thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote minimurali Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 September 2006 at 8:41pm
Originally posted by minimurali

Originally posted by dips_december

I think England need to drop Saj Mahmood.

 Saj has hit a rough patch of late, although if he led us to victory in the 4th ODI, he'd be a national hero!!

Quote from BBC Sport website - "Sajid Mahmood was England's hero as they secured a three-wicket win to tie the one-day series against Pakistan. 

 You were saying dips?

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That was a week before i guess my views have changed since .
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Originally posted by dips_december

NEW DELHI: With the term of Kiran More, chairman of the national selection committee, having unofficially come to an end, the race for the next leader has already begun. According to insiders, former India skipper Dilip Vengsarkar is the most likely choice to take over this tricky mantle in the year of the World Cup.

Left-arm spinner Venkatapathi Raju is likely to be the other new face in the panel. He is expected to come in place of South Zone's VB Chandrashekar, whose term also ends later this month.

According to the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) secretary, Niranjan Shah, South Zone and West Zone are yet to shortlist their proposed candidates for the selection committee. But a source in the cricket board confirmed that Vengsarkar is the front-runner from West Zone although the name of Dhiraj Parsana has also cropped up. If Vengsarkar gets the green signal and he is agreeable, he will be the chairman too.

Interestingly, West does not follow the rotation policy among its affiliate states while selecting its candidate. South, however, strictly goes by rotation which means it will be Hyderabad's turn this time. Raju is the clear favourite at this moment. The new selection panel will be endorsed during the board's AGM in Mumbai next month. The other three selectors -- Bhupinder Singh (North), Ranjib Biswal (East) and Sanjay Jagdale (Central) -- are likely to continue for one more year. "The shortlisting generally happens a week before the AGM and the candidates are proposed by different zones," Shah said. He confirmed that the chairman of the panel "is picked on the basis of seniority in terms of Tests played and not on age."

But there is catch. A source said: "Some of the proposed names might agree to take up the job only if the BCCI makes the selection committee a professional body and pays them adequate remuneration."

"That is unlikely to happen so soon," countered Shah. "But who knows? We might have a salary structure for the selectors too in the future. As far as the chairman of the selection panel is concerned, we are yet to decide on it."

In the meantime, former BCCI boss and a very prominent member of Sharad Pawar's team, IS Bindra, has already given a proposal to make the selectors paid officials. He believes selecting the team for the nation is not an honorary job. It is now up to the other members of the working committee to decide whether they want to take up the issue seriously or not.

http://cricket.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1956887.cms

 

I told you we needed a thread on this

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clapo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2006 at 5:41am
so make one if you wish.... that way we wont have whole articles being posted in the "shoutbox"
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dips_december Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2006 at 5:52am

Originally posted by Clapo

so make one if you wish.... that way we wont have whole articles being posted in the "shoutbox"

I made one and Sledger deleted it saying it was meantto be made in the shoutbox and i cant make one again without his permission .

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how do you think tendulkar is going to do in the malaysia tri series as he hasnt played a real match for a long time if he isn't in form how long would you think it would take him to get back in to form???
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He will be in good form, GD. Sachin hit century in a practice match. He's form is really god neutral pitches. I think he will hit few centuries.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote minimurali Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2006 at 9:10pm
 Glenn McGrath's comeback. It'll be fantastic to see him bowling again internationally after so long out. He says he's in really good nick so it'll be interestig to see how he fares to warm up for the ICC Champion's Trophy.
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Hope he is still that miserly and hope he has not had the fate of Shaun Pollock .So whats he gonna predict this time for the Ashes ?Last time he said it was 5-0 to Aus .
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Well I hope my teams bought a fresh bag of balls to "just happen to be in his way"
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 For me, Australia will be weakened either way for the Ashes.

 If he does play, he will lack match fitness and so will not be a big a threat as he normally would. I imagine his work load would be less, bringing more stress to the other bowlers causing a domino effect.

 If he doesn't play, Australia will suffer a massive psychological blow as his presence in the team cannot be put on a scale. he has an awesome presence within the team.

 So it looks like either way, England already have an advantage.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote TCA123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:09pm
Why the hell is Owais Shah in that back up squad for heavens sake!?
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because having an experienced and skilled backup batsman could be considered a good idea?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TCA123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:16pm
i was thinking more along the lines of say Rob Key as the experienced player...
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He is in there as well isn't he?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TCA123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:22pm
Yes. So thats one experienced player. No need for another average player like Shah who keeps trying and failing.
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one Test, made 80-odd, hardly keep trying and failing
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Does anybody think James Benning might be pushing for that Academy as well. I heard sky commentators discussing him and never really considered him.

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yikes I hope not
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he does seem abit of a slogger most of the time.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DRAVID FAN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2006 at 8:16pm
Dips_december in a diffrent forum wrote that Ajay Jadeja was dancing on an Indian show recntly. After Goungh its gim now. WOW!

P.S: He was never a captain of the team dips. You made a mistake there. Was captain for just a few matches. 1 or 2 I suspect.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DRAVID FAN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2006 at 8:50pm
Even Mark Ramprakash ahs started dancing now in a BBC show called Stricktly Come Dancing. I think the same show Gough was in.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/5345174.stm

What do you guys think about this !!

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Well why did he get upset at the spectator if they were involved in this then its their fault if not It's tottaly vermuelens fault but still I think 10 years is a bit long no?
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