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spin wizard
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Topic: South Africa tour of India Posted: 17 February 2010 at 12:32pm |
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7 wickets on day 5 in India will be a piece of cake for Harbhajan and Mishra if the weather holds up. Mother nature is all SA can really on now I think.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 3:27am |
Irrespective of whether we do get a result at Edens or not, I have got my answer of who the Number #1 & #2 teams in test are. Atleast there is no doubt on top two teams, put in any order as you wish.
This match comes as a slap on all critics those who doubted India's #1 rankings in test and bowlers ability.They jumped with the gun after first match , lets see what they write now. By no means this was a square turner. A team beaten comprehensively in first test, and down in second test after 2 sessions came back in pressure situation at home and are in a winning position on a pitch that was almost neutral.However you can never predict who is going to win till the last ball is bowled.
Firstly I give credit to bowlers who ran through the SA batting on a pitch which did not have any demons.
Regarding "Rain" , no complaints .. these are part and parcel of game.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 5:35am |
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It will have to be one special innings from either ABD or JPD apart from Amla of coarse if Saffers are to save this one. Sehwag wont be a bad option on this track on day 5. The weather gods are also in favor of the hosts.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 6:45am |
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Here we go - as expected prince ABD and JPD all back in hut for nothing - got to say the Indian spinners have bowled nicely though. Also, why is there no referral system n the series? Why cant the ICC have same policies for all the series? Is it a bilateral decision or the host nation takes it? i find it really odd that they are having different playing conditions for different series. This is not on.
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 10:06am |
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Correct. As I understand it, it's the home board that has the final say as they have to pay for the technology.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 10:56am |
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............and it goes on - they choke again.
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kahmad
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 11:00am |
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i had always a feeling that they will give up it at last moment. They deservered to draw it beacause of their efforts. India played well. Their batting was superb. I dont think they bowled well. Their main striker was not there today and they had big problems against the tailenders. It was all left to Bhajji and he did well. SA will ruin the missed chance in the first Innings. They gifted this match to India.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 11:43am |
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Saffers middle order has to be blamed - they never applied themselves - all three of ABD, JPD and AP are in horrible form.
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kahmad
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 11:47am |
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i think they missed also Boucher in this game.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 12:26pm |
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I dont think so - they were playing 7 front line batsmen and that should have been good enough - their poor fielding also caused them a great deal in the match
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 5:34pm |
I think enitre SA team is out of form except Kallis and Amala, otherwise how could they lose test match against India which has one of the worst bowling attacks, that too with only 3 bowlers (Zaheer was out) in fourth innings.
Indians are really lucky, first they were lucky that South Africa gifted few chances to them, which Lax,Badri,Raina,Vijay dropped , still Indians were lucky that their hopeless bowlers were somehow able to get lucky breaks again.Other teams are not lucky in that aspect , coz when they drop catches it costs them and they lose the matchs , as they will be unable to get wickets inspite of being world class bowlers and bowling very good.
Somehow Indians managed to win and hold on to Number 1 position which is again acheived by beating lower ranked teams and playing only at home.
One more thing, India won just because of their batting and not because of bowling in this match.This was just 250 - 300 per innings pitch, as usual the great Indian batting saved the pathetic Indian bowling.
EIDT: Oops! I think the hint of scarsam was not enough in above post or I am too bad at it.I can't express intonation on text , it's for speech.next time I will be careful and make it obvious.
Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 19 February 2010 at 3:04am
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 6:03pm |
Originally posted by mystery
Not for long mate after this series they will be 2 and after few series they will be #3 dont worry. |
You were close mystery but 9 balls shy and these 9 balls will haunt you more than saffies I guess .... better luck next time, unfortunately
which will not come anytime soon.
SA is the only team that could have beaten India.Now that we go to SA soon , and as I said you will come to know about the real Indian strength , which is swing and seam bowling. Judge Indian bowling there.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 18 February 2010 at 9:37pm |
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Wish Dravid could ahve been a part of this series.
But it was a pretty intense series and in my opinion, the pitches weren't that bad.
MalhotraRaj84 - I don't get you random hating. SA were clearly the better team in this series. 1st match, SA batting was very good and their bowling/fielding was fantastic. The Indians with the lack of Laxman and Dravid and lack of contribution from most players + bad bowling let them down.
2nd Test - Same teams again with the exception of the inclusion of Laxman. SA had the same bowlers and if Zaheer could get wickets and keep runs down, then so could Steyn but he didn't. Harbhajan has been due for a while and he is good at Eden Gardens, so the SA batsmen should have been prepared. And its Kallis' fault that he didn't play well in the last Test, don't blame it on luck. You can't have only luck. The Indian batsmen and bowlers were better in this game.
Plus you just said the Indians did well to return from a bad performance in the 1st Test and now you're saying that the bowlers are horrible! Stick to one argument please.
Edited by DRAVID FAN - 18 February 2010 at 9:38pm
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 19 February 2010 at 2:57am |
DF it was an ironic taunt to those who always say that Indian bowling is bad and Indians win just because of their batting. My sarcastic comments were just to underline that fact that , it was first the Indian bowling who restricted SA to under 300 on a very good pitch on day 1 , then it was same Indian bowling (with Zaheer out ) in second innings of SA , despite having lost 2 sessions and dropped few catches by feilding team (like Vijay,Raina,Lax and Badri),,still our bowlers created chances and won the match under pressure on a pitch which did not break away and was good for batting till day 5.
Indian bowling does not get its dues when it perform, when they play good people say because of batting they won.
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kahmad
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Posted: 19 February 2010 at 9:14am |
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Sanjay Manjrekar also aknowledged that they won because of their Batting. 4 centuries in an Innings are matchwinning. Without the Partnership of Dhoni and Laxman India couldn't win this match even if Zaheer was fit. I never told that indian Bowling is bad. you have to exept that India wins matches more often because of their batting rather than bowling. You can say they have the best batting line up but but the bowling is not the best. Zaheer and Bhajji are excellent but this is all what they have. I think Indian bowling will do better on SA Pitches but their batting could fail again.
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DontGoogleMe
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Posted: 19 February 2010 at 10:11am |
Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84
SA is the only team that could have beaten India.Now that we go to SA soon , and as I said you will come to know about the real Indian strength , which is swing and seam bowling. Judge Indian bowling there. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 19 February 2010 at 12:21pm |
Aussie says hi? Maybe in Aussie but not in India at the moment.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 19 February 2010 at 1:45pm |
Originally posted by kahmad
Sanjay Manjrekar also aknowledged that they won because of their Batting. |
Sanjay Mangeraker and Ian Chappel both who said Indian bowling is weak and not adequate have said very nice things about Rohit Sharma .. So do you agree that too? or selective reading ?
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kahmad
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Posted: 19 February 2010 at 3:25pm |
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i didn't hear that but i beleave them if they told it. For your information i like Rohit Sharma's batting skills
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 20 February 2010 at 8:49am |
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Raj - you have to differentiate between kahmad and mystery. Not everyone has an agenda against Rohit here.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 21 February 2010 at 5:35pm |
What a match! Was hoping Kallis got his hundred and Parnell got his fifty but that would have given them victory. Didn't want that!
What a show by Steyn and Parnell. It almost looked like they weren't even trying. Six after six, four after four and Parnell finishes with a batting average of 60! Clearly the best in the world at the moment!
Tendulkars save in the penultimate ball can be controversial and even after a whole bunch of replays and different camera angles, the third umpire wasn't too sure but gave the benefit of doubt to the Indians. If that was a four, the match would have been tie!
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 22 February 2010 at 5:40am |
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And they choked again - part XXVI
that run out decision by the third umpire was horrible - no way was he out.
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mystery
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Posted: 22 February 2010 at 7:00am |
Yes and it was a clear four horrible umpiring really cause them the game.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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dips_december
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Posted: 22 February 2010 at 8:12am |
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South Africa have lost two close games in a row. They shoudln't be disheartened and I am pretty sure they will come back strong. It was unwise not to play Amla. He's in top form and should have been given a go.
Gibbs is running out of chances and so is Sreesanth. I don't understand why they keep persisting with him! There's Tyagi, Munaf, Dinda, Gony, Vinay and Mithun all waiting and should be given a go.
I don't think India can go into the World Cup with both Zaheer and Nehra. Nehra has to miss out because both aren't the most mobile on the field and we can't afford to have two slow movers in the team at the same time.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 22 February 2010 at 8:24am |
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It is a long way to go matey - a loft of injury rounds to come with the IPL.
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Sledger
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Posted: 22 February 2010 at 12:31pm |
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Parnell's batting has always been respected in this neck of the woods and he showed why yesterday. Steyn is a handy biffer when miracles are required and was just undone by a hideously slower one that wouldn't have foxed a top batsman. Still , twas good fun and I agree that Amla should be given a go - Herschelle had more lives than a cat!
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 23 February 2010 at 5:55am |
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And Amla has a terrific one day record as well - his strike rate is up there with the very best and so is his average. He is just dropped on the perception of being a test player. He looks like a potential future captain for the Proteas - if only was Smith a bit older, Amla would surely have got his chance.
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kahmad
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Posted: 24 February 2010 at 11:14am |
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India is going great today. But i dont like these sorts of wickets where the bowlers cant do anything. Its not enjoyable anymore.
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Clobber
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Posted: 24 February 2010 at 12:44pm |
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Just awesome Sachin, the first man to make 200 in an ODI - it is fitting that he should hold the record in my opinion
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kahmad
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Posted: 24 February 2010 at 12:50pm |
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he deserved that. A great Batsman breaking the record of another great Batsman. Sachin is the best.
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