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Brad 
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 Topic: South Africa vs England (2012)Posted: 25 June 2012 at 7:44am |
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This will quite possibly be the best series of the past five years! I know the thread is early but I'm really keen
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 25 June 2012 at 5:09pm |
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Yes, this promises to be the series of the year... an epic battle is on the cards... can't wait to see this either.
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Sledger
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Posted: 26 June 2012 at 6:50am |
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Just a pity there's only 3 tests and a gazillion one dayers.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 26 June 2012 at 7:02am |
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You are still lucky Sledge - we will be playing SIX T20s against the Aussies pretty soon. Now beat that.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 26 June 2012 at 8:05pm |
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Yes Zuhair, I'm shocked that we are actually having a 6 match T20 series, and least of all i would want Pakistan to be a part of it. I can tell this for sure, the after-noon temperatures in parts like Chennai, Jaipur and Delhi during April - May are close to 45+ Celsius, Jaipur may even touch 47-48, Chennai is Humid like Hell ... they start IPL games at 4 p.m. meaning players practice from 3 p.m or so, it is the hottest period of the day, yet no one has a problem playing in the heat at IPL, but they have a problem with a 5:30 p.m start in the UAE.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 27 June 2012 at 12:51am |
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Sam, from my experience, 31 degrees in one place and 31 degrees in another place feels totally different. UAE is more like a desert, similar degrees will feel hotter there.
For example, where I live in St. Vincent & The Grenadines, there is the mainland which is 133 Square miles, the biggest island, then south of that, is 31 other cays and small Islands, the biggest being 7 Square miles. The further down you go to the south in these islands, the hotter it feels, although the temperature reads the same. It rains less in those parts, so the place is hardly humid, but yet the heat is felt hotter in those parts. One day I played a cricket game on one of those islands, its the worse sun burn i've ever got playing a game of Cricket! |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 27 June 2012 at 7:15pm |
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You might be right spinny as I've never been to the UAE, however, commonsense seems to have prevailed and they are going ahead with 3 ODI's and 3 T20's.
Coming back to the RSA v ENG series, I think it's a fair schedule of 3 tests 5 ODI's, the reason for 3 T20's I think is the WT20 that'll take place 1 week after this series is over... understandable.
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mystery
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Posted: 27 June 2012 at 8:02pm |
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I'm okay with 3 T20s but i would love to have 5 test instead of 5 Odis.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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Sledger
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Posted: 10 July 2012 at 9:36am |
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South Africa up against Somerset in a 2 day affair (what's the point of that ??) and it's not going well. Mark Boucher's freak injury (hit in the eye by a bail after Tahir had bowled a tailender) means he goes home and a replacement will be sent over. It was likely to be Boucher's last tour and maybe his swansong as an international cricketer - he deserved to go out as a player and not a man whose eyesight could be permanently damaged.
Morne Morkel's tour started awfully , with his 1st over going for 24 runs - 6 boundaries by Trego and 90 runs off 14 overs - he's definitely rusty! Steyn and Philander did better but Somerset recovered from 30-odd for 4 to over 300 for 8 before declaring. Openers Smith and Rudolph (strange choice , that) went early but Kallis and Amla were in cruise control by the end of the day 96-2. It's a typically easy paced Taunton wicket , I'd expect SA to declare later on today to give the bowlers some more work. After today they've only got a 3 day affair against Kent before the 1st test next week. If Kent play their B side you'd have to think SA will be undercooked for the test. |
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dips_december
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Posted: 10 July 2012 at 10:33am |
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Mark Boucher's injury has really left me shocked! He's been a fighter and he deserved to go out on a high. Instead it might well be 147 tests and 999 international dismissals he will have to be contempt with. Hope he gets his vision back to normal.
His presence would have been of such great value to the Proteas given his knowledge and experience about English conditions.
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Sledger
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Posted: 11 July 2012 at 5:58am |
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It's a blow Dips and AB de Villiers will be keeping wicket next week. They could have flown someone in quite easily , but I think they're bolstering the batting by using AB this way. It's probably good news for JP Duminy , who would have sat out the match methinks. Just where AB bats will be interesting , I think he's their best player just now and 6 , even 7 looks far too low to me. We could see something like - Smith , Petersen , Amla , Kallis , Rudolph , de Villiers , Duminy. I suppose whoever bats first will have some bearing - if England bat and score heavily , AB could well bat low , Alternatively , if they are rolled over he could still bat at 5.
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Posted: 18 July 2012 at 11:11am |
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Just a day to go before the 1st test and I'm rather excited! O'course the weather could stymie everything , but I'm holding thumbs. It looks as if Finn will be unlucky again , as Bresnan looks like making it. It should be a cracker and I'm unsure if winning the toss will be of any advantage.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 18 July 2012 at 6:49pm |
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Should be a thriller of a series, looking forward to it. I'd still tip RSA to win and claim the No.1 spot!
Hashim and Steyn the key men for RSA, Cook and Anderson for ENG.
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Sledger
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Posted: 20 July 2012 at 6:31am |
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What a disappointing bowling performance by the South Africans. Yes , the pitch was slow , but there was no urgency or fire from Steyn and company - they look seriously undercooked. The early loss of Strauss should have really got their blood up , but Trott and Cook put on 170 without any real problems - I was surprised when Trott got out! KP was rather restrained before falling to a short one from Kallis , but the hero was Cook , whose 20th test century was flawless. He didn't give a chance and if he can get going again this morning ., could well get another daddy hundred.
260-odd for 3 at the close and plenty of batting to come , it should be a big score. One poser - just why did SA start with Philander and Morkel - Steyn didn't get the ball until the 11th over ! Philander looked inoccuous on the placid surface and Morkel sprayed it about and no-balled regularly. 30 extras , more than 10% of the total gave some indication of how battle hardened the South Africans weren't ! |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 20 July 2012 at 5:07pm |
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RSA have fought back very strongly sledge, ENG dismissed for 385 and now RSA 27/1 losing Petersen early, This is turning out to be a very interesting test match.
I also found it surprising that Morne and Philander got the new ball yesterday rather than Steyn, however, RSA will be pleased that they have got ENG for under 400.
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alpesh
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Posted: 21 July 2012 at 4:55am |
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A good day's cricket- what we had expected from these two teams. SA came back strongly with 3 wickets before England's last 4 wickets put on 100. The total isn't overwhelming, but I think England would gladly have settled for 385 before the innings started. Anderson got an early wicket, then Amla and Smith batted well. Too bad Strauss couldn't cling on to that tough chance from Amla at the end of the day, but even so it's fairly even. If England can get a couple of wickets early they'll be on top; if SA keep wickets in hand they'll want to establish a decent first-innings lead, in case the pitch breaks up a bit on the 4th/5th day. All in all, it's been absorbing test cricket and the weather hasn't been too much of a factor. Looking forward to three more excellent days. |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 21 July 2012 at 8:46am |
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Strauss should indeed have held on to that chance given by Hashim, he is not the kind of player who'll give you too many chances, with Kallis, AB, JP and Rudolph all still waiting to bat the situation looks good for RSA I'd say.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 5:59am |
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So he we are , SA with 8 wickets in hand and 2 days to go and 18 runs lead.If these are the signs, England could be in for a long and tiring series ahead
 .I'm getting a feeling that Vernon could run through England in second innings. Personally I want England to draw this and somehow win the series by 1 victory margin , looks unlikely now. Somehow I could not see the penetration in English bowling lineup, maybe they are tired/overworked, or maybe the conditions did not favour them much, maybe they needed someone like Finn instead.In English conditions all you need is favorable conditions to get into momentum. For sure Amala has the resilience to grind and grind out the opposition bowlers and deflate them. SA are in a very good position to dictate terms for the rest of the series, with Steyn, Morkel and Vernon they have great bowlers who can use the conditions really well. Tahir is already into 7th test match and has 18th wickets, well I found him to be very promising but he has not done justice to what he was billed to be. |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 7:56am |
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I agree on Tahir not living up to the expectations, but then very often he is bowling in seamer friendly conditions, give him the sub continent wickets and he might well be running through the opposition.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 12:24am |
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RSA are making this look ridiculously easy, congratulations to Hashim Amla on becoming the first South African to score a triple hundred and also the first man to score a triple hundred in England since 1990 (Graham Gooch)
ENG have one hell of a task to save this test, RSA look good to go 1-0 up here... and honestly they deserve it.
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 2:35am |
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SA well and in control at the end of day 4. It would be extremely hard for England to save this match. Pitch was easy going by nature, but a few balls did move around. As the commies were saying, England should have bowled a bit straighter. A shame I gotta work tomorrow and not see the finals day play.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 8:36am |
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Fantastic effort from Hashim and Jacques. Top stuff. England would have to play out of their skins to save this one
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 8:54am |
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Steyn has not got the new ball for the last 4-5 tests now and that's something that the team coaching staff and the captain must all be comfortable with. Has to be a plan to this.
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 9:07am |
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What a thrashing - I thought I was watching Hussain's England! Superb batting by Smith , Kallis and the excellent Amla - they made the English attack look completely impotent. Just the 2 wickets down and one of them a duck and well past 600 runs - incredible! Then they come out and bowl like tigers to a batting line up that just couldn't cope - KP looked very uncomfortable and Strauss's attempted sweep against the spin and out of the rough was sheer stupidity! Yes , they've been in the field for two long days and might well be mentally and physically shot , but I expected stronger resistance. I can't see them lasting very long today and definitely not past the tea break.
A fantastic 3 days by the South Africans - flawless cricket and a pleasure to watch , they'll be looking forward to the kill today. Edited by Sledger - 23 July 2012 at 9:08am |
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 9:09am |
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I forgot to mention that my phone is rather hot this morning - quite a few SA supporters wishing me a good day !
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 10:16am |
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A golden opportunity for Bopara to seal his place , I wish he comes out with flying colors and saves the day for English along with Bell and Prior.
Waiting for the cracking final day's play. Whatever the result, I will be happy about it.If SA win , they surely deserve it , if ENG save this then for sure they need to be praised for digging themselves out of such a hole. |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 4:04pm |
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Congratulations to SA on winning the match comprehensively by an innings. No 1 status looks in a serious jeopardy now, England need to come back and come back strong and take the remaining two matches.
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 7:15pm |
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Absolute thrashing, ENG coudn't manage with 20 wickets what South Africa managed with 2 wickets, even India didn't lose this badly last year!
RSA's bowling has looked far more potent than England's, moreover with Hashim and Kallis in their ranks RSA are always sure of a solid batsmen at the creasewho is difficult to dismiss... I don't have words to praise Hahsim for his efforts, what a run machine this man has been! After watching this test, I'd say RSA to win 2-0. Can't really see ENG bouncing back, although they are a damn good side themselves, it is also important for RSA to show ruthless aggression, they have been known for chocking, now is the time to put the foot down, finish the job and become the No.1 test team in the world.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 24 July 2012 at 3:50am |
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In England sometimes the conditions can be cruelly against you just for a session or two which could change the complexion of the entire game.SA took advantage of second day conditions and there you are , now it looks like it is absolutely impossible for England to come back in the series.
I would love to see if SA can survive a similar challenging conditions when they come into bat in next few matches, this 637-2 looks too bad on English bowling , but then test cricket is all about surviving the challenging session otherwise even the easier conditions stack against you. Conditions were good for England's second innings , but the pressure of losing bogged them down, irrespective of home/away. As much as I want England to win [1. They are a good team and kind of one among favorite 2. The only way Inida can get back No.1 back :) by beating them this year end], but I must they this .... England became No. 1 last Aug beating India, Since then they haven't played like one. - Lost 3-0 to Pakistan away - Drawn 1-1 with SL away - Won against WI at home 2-0 (One test was a drawn, don't know what would have happened if WI was full strength) If England do not win this series against SA , Sadly I would have to say England were "No. 1 team that wasn't", they became No 1. when they beat India thats it, but post that their points just floated them above the rest, just because of all the good work they had done to reach No 1 spot... Nothing more. Mind you, India became No. 1 and stayed for 22 odd months, however in England they started on July 21 2011, lost the series by August end and lost the No.1 status immediately. Atleast when India was at the top , they looked every bit of it. Strauss and team , please prove me wrong ... I will be the happiest guy :) if that happens.
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Posted: 24 July 2012 at 5:13am |
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SA Deserve to win this series as they are beating every body away from since 08 draw series with Ind though away and @ home. But Eng this yr only lost to Pak 3-0 which gave them a set back but SA has never been whitewashed by any team in test. Gary Kirsten is the best coach ever. First he took Ind to top now he said he will take away the tag of chokers from SA. He is best and has played with some of SA player. Every team needs a younger coach who himself can practise with them. I remember when Ind pace attack was struggling. He said leave bowling to batsman and ask amit mishra and Ishant sharma hey mate come bowl at me let me see if u can get me out. and obviously they couldnt get him out. Like Langer is with Aus, Andy Flower with Eng, every team needs a young coach who can hang around with guys. Ind is in bad poisition and so is WI and NZ |
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