Spin or accuracy?

yes you can.

For example Mushtaq Ahmed's googly has much more side spin on it then say Danish Kaneria who gets alot of top spin on his googly.

What about me with my googlinky?

, i'm telling you, the googlinky is the next hippy spin!

Yeah obviously unless you could land on a 5p coin every single time with the first one.

Drift + Spin = Hard to play.

Originally posted by fishcake14 Thought I'd get this going again, which is better? No spin with drift Spin with no drifI I think the 2nd one is better personally.

Personally I find it harder to play a spinner with good flight and pace variation than one who turns a mile but always on the same trajectory. However, a) I'm not (yet...) a bona fide top-order batsman and b) it does, of course, depend on pitches

Originally posted by Chin Music Personally I find it harder to play a spinner with good flight and pace variation than one who turns a mile but always on the same trajectory

. What else would you expect from an English . Fishcake would know what I am talking about.

No spin with drift

Spin with no drift

Well, of these 2, both are effective! No spin with drift can target the lbw's. Spin with no drift is effective too! Now, spin + drift = Wickets .

So what do you think about the 2 options fishcake put on the table Mini. Spin without drift or drift without spin - remember there is no option of spin and drift.

You'd be amazed how many people get out to a drifting ball!

Originally posted by spin wizard So what do you think about the 2 options fishcake put on the table Mini. Spin without drift or drift without spin - remember there is no option of spin and drift.

Murali bowls with minimal drift. but he has taken over 600 wickets. When he gets marginal drift, he rips apart batting line ups, ending with 6-8 wickets, when there is no drift, 3-5 wickets.

If you have enough spin, variations and control of flight, effects of drift can be compensated. So spin without drift is better, since you have more parameters to change in spin than the drift. (Like amount of spin, direction of spin, speed, flight, line & length vs speed, direction and line & length for drift)

Edited by Wal Bada

Originally posted by Pietersen Fan id rather be able to turn it a metre than drift it a metre also Originally posted by Wal Bada Side spinning armball (Seam =) is a ball with spin, but it does not turn off the pitch due to wrong (which is deliberate) inclination of the seam. Now that will have the phenomenon called drift. what does that mean? i dont quite get it?

if the ball lands flush on the seam (When seam is rotating like = looking from the sky, that is shiny/non-shiny side is directly facing the batsman) it will turn a bit, but by chance if hits the shiny side (that is seam looks // when viewing from square leg) then it will go straight on. That much of tilt is not needed as shown, only a little tilt will make it to hit the shiny side and then go straight on.

Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy Drift is essential. Murali gets it by turning it heaps, imagine if he could bowl an off break which drifted in the opposite direction and spun back? I would rather 1 metre of drift then 1 metre of spin anyday. Spin and no drift is better then no spin and drift... but you guys should try and take vantage of both.

Dead right buddy
You are right on the button

so wala bada, no matter how many revs u get on a ball if it lands (=), then it wont turn much?

so spin wiz, im a leggy if i bowl with a seam close to this (=) and get loads of revs on it , it will turn?