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    Posted: 19 November 2006 at 7:22pm
YES!! Thats whats called 'super duper uber turn!'

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Originally posted by pietersen fan

so spin wiz, im a leggy if i bowl with a seam close to this (=) and get loads of revs on it , it will turn?

Yeah, it will turn heaps!

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good good, ive got a strange tecnique which gets the ball almost perfectly (=), its not wrist spin, its more kindof flick spin, where the ball flicks over my index and middle finger in order to gain revs, im sure theres a name for this method, and im sure its easier than conventional leg spin, but i do get a fair amount of turn

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Flick spin!!  

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As long as there is turn there should be no problem and also flight.
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Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

so spin wiz, im a leggy if i bowl with a seam close to this (=) and get loads of revs on it , it will turn?


If it is EXACTLY like '=' it will not turn much, because it is very difficult to put that much of side spin with leg break action. It's very funny as according to physics it should turn, but in practice it does not turn for a finger spinner. Wrist spinner will get some turn with that.

If the angle of seam is between = and \\ then the ball will spin a lot. i.e. has lot of side spin.

When the angle of seam is between || and \\ it will 'deviate' off the pitch less, but will gather pace and bounce after pitching. i.e. has lot of top spin or overspin.
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Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

good good, ive got a strange tecnique which gets the ball almost perfectly (=), its not wrist spin, its more kindof flick spin, where the ball flicks over my index and middle finger in order to gain revs, im sure theres a name for this method, and im sure its easier than conventional leg spin, but i do get a fair amount of turn


Congrads! you are bowling the perfect side spinning leg break without ant overspin, which even Warne could not do. EVen his leg break has some overspin.
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Originally posted by spin wizard

. What else would you expect from an English . Fishcake would know what I am talking about.



Kindly enlighten? This could be the key to my playing spin better...
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Originally posted by Wal Bada

Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

good good, ive got a strange tecnique which gets the ball almost perfectly (=), its not wrist spin, its more kindof flick spin, where the ball flicks over my index and middle finger in order to gain revs, im sure theres a name for this method, and im sure its easier than conventional leg spin, but i do get a fair amount of turn


Congrads! you are bowling the perfect side spinning leg break without ant overspin, which even Warne could not do. EVen his leg break has some overspin.
 
its not eactly (=) but its is fairly close, i do get a fair few rev on the ball, and its always turned loads for me so im just guna stick with it Tongue
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Does this mean PF is better than Warne? Tongue LOL

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maybe i am warneWacko
mwhahahahahahahaha
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Oh crap! If only we had 70DS!! Cry

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Originally posted by fishcake14

Does this mean PF is better than Warne? [IMG]http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="Tongue" /> [IMG]http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="LOL" />


I can bowl a quicker inswinger with leg break action, which Warne could not. That does not make me better than Warne.
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Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

its not eactly (=) but its is fairly close, i do get a fair few rev on the ball, and its always turned loads for me so im just guna stick with it


What yuo describe is the "flick" put on by the middle finger. You are using exaggerated amounts of it. Closest I can remember to you is Sri Lankan Leggie Kaushal Lokuarachchi who is a finger spin leg spinner.

I use the same technique but for bowling flatter with appriciable turn (Yes, batsmen here run at spinners even before they bowl)
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its definatly not finger spin, but less wristy that a normal wrist spinner, i when bowling my hang is 45 degrees clockwise from what a pace bowlers is, when in release my hand flicks up from a slightly cocked position (still at 45 degrees), and the ball comes out of my hand over my middle and index finger, this gives it the revs. it actually gets loads more revs than youd expect.
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Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

maybe i am warneWacko
mwhahahahahahahaha


I hope you are, it would be a great relief to me to know that Warney's spending his time arguing about little points of detail on some internet forum rather than preparing for the biggest series in Australia for nearly 20 years!
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Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

its definatly not finger spin, but less wristy that a normal wrist spinner, i when bowling my hang is 45 degrees clockwise from what a pace bowlers is, when in release my hand flicks up from a slightly cocked position (still at 45 degrees), and the ball comes out of my hand over my middle and index finger, this gives it the revs. it actually gets loads more revs than youd expect.


We'll call you a less wristy leggie or a more fingerish leggie

But it is no barrier to be a good bowler. in U-19 WC Kaushal Lokuarachchi just destroyed batting lneups with his unorthadox leg spin (He indulged in too much binging since then and now a load of crap) SO you also will be ableto do the same.

Do you ball slider / straight ball or the googly. Googly might be bit difficult with your action or easy to pick if you bowl because you may need to hold it bit out of the fingers to spin it with middle finger.
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Originally posted by Wal Bada

Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

its definatly not finger spin, but less wristy that a normal wrist spinner, i when bowling my hang is 45 degrees clockwise from what a pace bowlers is, when in release my hand flicks up from a slightly cocked position (still at 45 degrees), and the ball comes out of my hand over my middle and index finger, this gives it the revs. it actually gets loads more revs than youd expect.



But it is no barrier to be a good bowler. in U-19 WC Kaushal Lokuarachchi just destroyed batting lneups with his unorthadox leg spin (He indulged in too much binging since then and now a load of crap) .
 
What do you mean by ''binging?' Did he go and get drunk every night?

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What do you mean by ''binging?' Did he go and get drunk every night?


Yup. He was drinking too much, and drove his Jeep over a pedestrian. She was dead on the spot and this fellow had a ban of 1 year from SLC (which I think is grossly inadequate)
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Oh. That's not good. Thumbs%20Down

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Yeh, he killed a women I believe, I heard about that... Apparently he was a prodigy, but he won't have much of a career nowadays.
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Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy

Yeh, he killed a women I believe, I heard about that... Apparently he was a prodigy, but he won't have much of a career nowadays.


Exactly. The bugger should have been in jail for 5 years!! He is making a come back, but I sincerely hope that such a person will not make SL team.
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From all accounts I hear he is a fine cricketer, but he is a criminal - murder has to be one of the biggest possible sins. We do not want criminals playing our beautiful game, like Locu and Vermuelen.
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Well said Sir!!
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There is nothing to it Wal Bada, didn't even have to think about what I said earlier.
 
If anybody wishes to see great leg-break bowling watch Warney right now in the Ashes. He exemplifies spin bowling. A Beautiful, Flowing action, which is bowled below the perpendicular. Wonderful seam position, grip and wrist cock.. and awesome control of flight, pace, line and length, drift and rip (spin). His varieties, whether subtle or major are done at will and cause batsmen so much surprise.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2006 at 6:15pm
God, Warnie must be the most mesmerizing bowler the world has seen!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Shane Warnabee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2006 at 1:33pm
hey guys i too bowl finger spin legspin!
as i find it impossible to flick my wrist i flick my fingers instead!
Is this a good technique or is 'normal' legspin better?
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Whatever works best for you is the best technique! Big%20smile

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Shane Warnabee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2006 at 6:51pm
ya i know but it would be a great help if could
bowl the normal leggies as i could get topspin and a better length
as well it could also be a handy surprise delivery to the batsman
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Originally posted by Pietersen Fan

maybe i am warneWacko
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Then why does your side bar say you come from England
 
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