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Shane Warnabee
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Topic: strenghtening the body with exercisePosted: 04 March 2007 at 2:55pm |
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is cheese a good source of protein and and a good way to add bulk?
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Posted: 04 March 2007 at 3:57pm |
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Yes, cheese is an excellent source of protein, though most cheese has a lot of fat, too. You can get half fat, low fat and cottage cheeses with less fat in them, but yeah, cheese is a very good source of protein.
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Posted: 04 March 2007 at 5:49pm |
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when u mean cheese is a good protein source of protein are
u refering to all kinds of cheese in general or a particular type of cheese. I'm also guessing that different kinds of cheeses vary in protein content |
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Posted: 05 March 2007 at 1:08pm |
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I'm pretty good when it comes to my own gyming sessions etc, but just wondered if anyone had any general tips for all round workout. Currently I am doing 30 minutes on the treadmill split into a three minute walk warm-up, 25 minutes run at 6mph, and 2 minutes warm down. Then I do 30 minutes treadmill work on various difficulty. It's primarily for weight loss and possible tone just before the season gets underway, so any tips or suggestions to my routine?
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 8:15pm |
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dont just run, why dont you try rowing, that tones the whole body. Or even the bike, thats great for your legs.
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Posted: 08 March 2007 at 8:11am |
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A slice of reduced fat swiss or cheddar chesse (about 25g) is about 7 or 8 grams of protein (a bit more than a large egg, or about the same as roughly 90g of kidney beans, or 25g of dry roasted peanuts, or 250ml of skimmed milk). 225 g of low fat cottage cheese has 28g of protein, 160 calories and only 6g of carbs and 2g of fat.
I've been up all night at work and need some sleep now, but I'll come back later with a diet outline and excercise plan for increasing size and strength, since people seem interested.
If your main goal is weight loss instead, cardio will burn most fat if done before breakfast, and if you want to do weights as well, or keep doing them, then instead of the 2-3 minute rests between sets, reduce your rest to a minute. You may have to use slightly less weight to complete the same number of reps, but since fat loss and not muscle building is the aim, this is irrelevant. However, if you find you are losing a lot of strength or feeling overly tired and run down then you are probably overtraining and burning a lot of muscle along with the fat, which will reduce your strength and leave you looking and feeling washed out, not toned. And don't forget to keep well hydrated. Drink plenty of water, but keep taking it in regularly, a few mouthfuls, rather than infrequent large volumes.
Eating the same amount but having 6 meals a day instead of three will also help lose fat, and don't skip breakfast, either. Have a meal with protein (eggs are excellent and quick) and complex, slow burning carbs in, like wholmeal bread. Having a good breakfast will get your metabolism going again and get the body out of starvation mode that it will be in after fasting for several hours. When the body doesn't eat for a while, it doesn't burn fat but stores it, and burns muscle instead, for preference, as well as slowing down the metabolism. Eating a sensible breakfast ensures this doesn't happen.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 08 March 2007 at 10:34am |
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k thanks rambo i think i eat french cheese though i'm not sure
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Posted: 08 March 2007 at 3:51pm |
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I think you should mainly try to build your shoulders SW as you're a leggy! They take a lot of blows! And you're bound to learn something from everyone of Rambo's post! |
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Posted: 08 March 2007 at 4:02pm |
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so what excercise is good for the shoulders spin?
Is it push ups? |
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Posted: 08 March 2007 at 4:15pm |
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Yes!
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Posted: 08 March 2007 at 9:26pm |
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Pushups will hit the front deltoids as well as the chest, but doing an overhead press with dumbells or barbells will hit all 3 of the muscle heads of the shoulders.
But as I mentioned previously, the shoulder is a joint that is unstable and takes a lot of punishment when bowling and throwing, so doing rotator cuff excercises as well are a very sensible idea if you don't fancy undergoing surgery in a few years.
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 6:09pm |
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how about swimming? Its supposed to be 1 of the best
excercises in the world. Though i don't know all the strokes. I only know the freestyle and the breast stroke. |
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 6:26pm |
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Swimming is indeed a good excercise, but swimming also burns a lot of calories. Therefore if you are on the skinny side and wanting to add muscle swimming is a bad idea, especially if you are already doing cardio work or running around a lot playing cricket anyway. If you are wanting to bulk up, swimming isn't really a good idea. You'd be better off lifting weights 3 times a week (getting a day off in between each session) and doing big, basic, multi joint excercises. Squats, deadlifts, overhead dumbell or barbell press, benchpress, barbell curls and lying tricep extensions (or if you are one of the people who finds this hard on the elbows, narrow-grip bench press instead) and wide-grip pull ups (or lat pull downs or bent over rowing if you can't manage these to start with).
An absolute beginner (ie, if you've never seriously trained with weights before) should be looking to do a single set of 8 reps for each excercise, using good form. The weight should be picked so that the last rep is very hard to complete, and you shouldn't be able to do another one. After a while, you'll find you're able to do 9, 10, or more reps. You'll want to add more weight again so that you're back to only being able to complete 8 reps again instead of, say, 12, and keep adding weight when you can again lift more.
Swimming is an excellent excercise and will strengthen muscles used for swimming, but if you're wanting to add muscle mass, I'd give it a miss -unless you're actually wanting to be a swimmer, of course!
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Posted: 10 March 2007 at 9:29pm |
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Bear in mind that it's only a guide, and aimed at an absolute beginner to weight training. After a couple of months, the muscles will have hopefully grown and got stronger, and you'll need to work them harder, with 2 or more excercises for each muscle group, as a starting guide, doing 3 sets for each excercise.
But everyone is different. Doing a single set of a good excercise worked for me (and many others) starting out, but not everyone respinds the same way. You might find you need to be aiming for 10-12 reps, and/or doing 2 sets of each excercise. A weight that is just heavy enough to allow you to complete 8 reps is a good weight because it's towards the strength (rather than hypertrophy) end on the normal range (6-15 reps) but not so heavy you are likely to risk injuring yourself, which is why I suggest it, but you have to monitor your own progress and listen to your body to see what works. I've never found high reps and low weight work, but some people respond better to this. And because the body adapts, sometimes you have to do more than just add weight, you have to change the way you train. I'm not trying to sound confusing, it's just something you learn from talking to other bodybuilders. It's not one size fits all.
After this beginner phase, as I say, you'll need to do more excercises and more sets, and so you'll want to split the workout up. I generally find that 40 mins to 1hr is about the length after which exaustion makes continuing a session worthless. If you're too tired to properly work the muscles, you're wasting your time and energy if you're wanting to get bigger.
My own split is:
Monday (legs)
Squats 4x8
Extensions 3x10
Curls 3x12
Tuesday (Shoulders)
Shrugs 3x10
Upright rows 3x8
Military press 2x8 then 2x12 (alternatively I'll do Arnold presses, sometimes)
Lateral raises 3x10
Bent over laterals 3x10
Wed (arms)
EZbar curls 4x8
Inc DB curls 3x10 (getting a really good stretch, using a fairly light weight but until the muscle screams in agony)
Lying tricep extensions 3x10
Narrow bench 3x10
Seated 2 Arm DB ext (3x12)
Thurs (Cardio/Abs) (if I have manged to get any sleep after the wed nightshift)
Fri (Chest)
Flat Bench 3x10
Incline Bench 3x10
DB Press (either flat or incline) 3x12
Flyes (3x10)
Pullovers (3x12) (some people would call this a back excercise, but I do it on chest day)
Sat (back)
Deadlifts 5x5
Bent Over rows 3x10
T-Bar rows 3x10
1 Arm rows 3x10-12
Sun (rest day)
I find that hitting each muscle group once a week (going to failure, or as close as I can) gives me good results. Mostly this is based on the recuperation abilities of the individual. Getting the right amount of rest (enough to recover and grow, not too much that the muscle isn't worked enough) is something every individual has to work out for themselves - there are as many different training splits and routines as there are people that train.
The same does go for diet to a certain extent. The basic rules are as I've said - a calorific surplus in order to add mass, keep protein intake high (about 1g/lb bodyweight) and try to keep away from sugary carbs, except right after a workout. Fat intake wants to be kept in check, but more often than not the thing that controls how much fat you put on along with muscle (hopefully!) is carbs, what sort and how much. If you feel you are putting on more fat than you'd like, try cutting carbs before anything else, from the last couple of meals of the day. But it's all about the bathroom scales and the mirror, really. Keep a diary of your weight, see if you are gaining or maintaining each week, and if you have a means of getting an accurate check on your bodyfat/lean muscle percentages, by all means keep track of them, otherwise the mirror is probably your best guide. You'll see when your muscles are looking and feeling fuller and harder, or if there's too much appearing round the waist or under the pecs.
Be realistic, don't expect to turn into Arnold Schwarzenegger or Jay Cutler overnight, but do expect to see results, in the way you look and your strength levels in workouts. If your strength actually drops, you need to eat more or rest more, or both, in all likelihood.
Anyway... good luck. Train hard, eat well, rest properly. Good luck.
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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 4:07pm |
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thanks mate. But how do i know whether i'm lifting too much or too little weights. How to i know the sam\fe amount
of times for lifting weights and how do i know whether or not the weights are too heavy for me? I doubt even arnie was as thin as me so is it possible for even a guy like me to become big? Secondly , should i try and increase the amount of food i take bit by bit everyday? At the moment i'm doing just push ups. 1 Q about them. While doing them am i supposed to pull myself with my hands or my body? I'm pretty sure u won't understand the last part but if u do please tell me. thanks |
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Posted: 13 March 2007 at 7:18am |
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If you have no idea what sort of weight you can lift, start light and then add a bit at a time until you find a weight that you can do just that many reps, 8, 10, whatever - with. Easier and safer finding the right weight that way. Most injuries are caused by people trying to go too heavy, simply because the weight is too much or they are forced to cheat and use bad form to lift it. Yes, skinny guys can get big. Some of the top bodybuilders started as skinny runts and started going to the gym because they were sick of being skinny runts. So, in principle, yes, though ultimately genetics will determine how big you can get, even if you train, eat and rest correctly.
I have no idea what you mean by 'pulling' yourself up during a push up. It's a push. Imagine you're standing up against a wall, with your toes touching the wall. Your nose is almost against the wall, and your palms flat against the wall, slightly more than shoulder width apart. Your elbows will be bent at about 90 degrees. All you need to do to move your face away from the wall is extend your arms. Now, instead of being upright standing against a wall, do it horizontally on the floor. Your triceps do part of the work, straightening your arms and the rest comes from the muscles of your chest and the front part of your shoulders which contract and pull your arms out in front of you. To lower yourself back down, the opposite muscles (in your biceps and back) work.
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Posted: 13 March 2007 at 6:13pm |
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k thanks mate i'm pretty sure i'm doing the same as you mentioned. My dad on the other hand is pretty fat he weighs around a 100 kilos and is 6 feet exact in height.
Though unfortunately i have only my mum's genetics. |
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Posted: 13 March 2007 at 6:17pm |
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actually my biceps are pretty big, when compared to most of the big guys around here does it mean it is easier to gain muscle if you are thinner?
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Posted: 15 March 2007 at 7:13am |
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Well it depends if you are a skinny "hard gainer" or an athletic type build who is likely to put on a lot of lean, quality muscle if they eat and train right. You can't train like a horse and eat like a bird.
A rough guide is to measure the circumference of your wrist. If you train and eat properly, just about anyone can have an upper arm that is 10 inches larger in circumference than the wrist measurement (so in cm you'd add 25). That will give you an idea of how much bigger you should be able to get through bodybuilding, even if you are a skinny type.
Another rough rule of thumb is that 1 inch added to your arms = 10lb of muscle mass on your whole body. So if you measure your arms now and subtract that from the projected size, you get the number of inches you can reasonably expect to add, and if you multiply that by 10, you get the number of pounds of muscle you would hope to add. But since you're still growing this calculation will not work properly.
If you have got fairly large and well-defined muscle bellies already then chances are you fall into the athletic bodytype group. If so, you only have yourself to blame if you don't take advantage of this fact to get bigger.
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Posted: 15 March 2007 at 3:22pm |
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but i'm pretty sure its in my genes because i eat a lot
and never become fat but i'm also very athletic,by the way my bellies are not big but by biceps are. Are u referring to my biceps as bellies if so i'm sorry for the misunderstanding. So how exactly do i take advantage of this situation is it by weightlifting? thanks again for your help! |
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Posted: 15 March 2007 at 9:52pm |
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Muscle belly refers to the muscles, not the stomach. Sorry, you probably wouldn't be familliar with the term.
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Posted: 16 March 2007 at 10:42am |
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k no problem, i was also wondering whether the skull size would also increase due to excercise?
How about stretches like leg stretches etc are they good? |
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Posted: 16 March 2007 at 12:04pm |
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You want to increase the size of your skull by doing leg stretches.... |
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Posted: 16 March 2007 at 12:09pm |
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abit of topic but any idea on the best way to improve general stamina??
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Posted: 16 March 2007 at 3:04pm |
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no i wasn't reffering to leg stretches as a way to increase my skull! I was just wondering if they were
any good for the legs. |
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Posted: 16 March 2007 at 5:50pm |
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Stretches will increase flexibility but won't increase size or strength in muscles. Do them after a workout would be my advice.
No, the skull is a bone. There are no excercises that will increase the size of your skull. On the other hand, increasing your brainpower might be something worth looking into...
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Posted: 17 March 2007 at 11:55am |
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LOL So what excercises are good for the legs eh?
Also, how effective are multivitamin capsules? |
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Posted: 17 March 2007 at 9:44pm |
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For the legs? Squats, leg presses, leg extensions and hamstring curls. If you have poor calves, some form of calf raise, maybe. Squats are the big mass builder and should actually help you add mass to the whole body. You might also consider lunges or walking lunges. Stretches are important because you want to maintain suppleness and flexibility in your hamstrings especially to avoid injury, so keep doing them, warming up before a game and warming down after a workout.
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Posted: 18 March 2007 at 11:25am |
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k thanks
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is it true that jogging a lot helps give you abs?
How much jogging should i do to get big abs? |
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