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    Posted: 31 January 2011 at 6:19am
I am really happy for Lee - he has really come back strong and as Hammond says will be a real force come the WC. Agreed, England have taken the series lightly, but the Aussies have for sured played some good cricket and they will surely be a force in the WC.
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Originally posted by spin wizard

This is really poor from an England perspective, Australia really not playing to win and still winning by decent margins.  Watson blading a ball in point hand, Haddin being bowled through the leg, Steven Smith actually getting good bowling figures (his decent batting scores doesn't surprise though, his technique is probably rusty but the kid is quite capable with the willow).
 
Without Broad & Swann this was nothing but a practice hit out. There won't be any tears in the England change room over losing a worthless series that will be forgotten in a month.
 
Glad that the Aussie fans got something to cheer about. ANd Lee looks the goods to be a real force in the World Cup..
 
There is a reason why Australia are still number one in odi's after all.
 
Congrats to MC as well his field placings and bowling choices were actually very good all series.  
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This is really poor from an England perspective, Australia really not playing to win and still winning by decent margins.  Watson blading a ball in point hand, Haddin being bowled through the leg, Steven Smith actually getting good bowling figures (his decent batting scores doesn't surprise though, his technique is probably rusty but the kid is quite capable with the willow).
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ENG done and dusted... never had a doubt Raj's predictions will run out of luck soon.
 
Congrats Sam , your prediction that "I will run out of my luck with predictions soon" came true, so Thumbs%20Up for that mate.
 
On a self assement... it's not bad , one wrong prediction in a long long time for me.
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ENG done and dusted... never had a doubt  
 
So you get your wish and England lose a one day series in Oz. Hope your happy with this Conciliation after losing the main event? ……Hold the phone!! I seem to remember the Ashes was going to be a no contest and without any doubt, Oh well you can’t win them all. Wink
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Sam I can only assume you haven't actually seen any of the cricket in this series. England have been dire, Australia merely competent, no other side will be in the slightest bit concerned about the prospect of facing either of these two in the world cup.
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Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84

Aussies 3-0 up, Hmm so time for some prediction again. (Though I am not a fan of predicting ODI's, still let me try).
 
England to win 4 on a trot now! Wink , that's a bold prediction isn't it.
 
Initially I worte England to win next three and decider I'm not sure , but when I make a wish , let me make compeletely in their favour.
 
ENG done and dusted... never had a doubt Raj's predictions will run out of luck soon.
 
No matter what we think but my view is that Australia are hitting form just at the right time, Ricky and M Hussey will soon be back too and Steven Smith actually hasn't done that badly but I guess he'll be the one to miss out of the playing eleven.
 
AUS are strengthing their position at the top.
 
 
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Agree wholeheartedly with Sam.  There's a very wise saying that goes along the lines of "what you sow is what you reap". 
 
And Flipper, Hammond is spot on, going by Anderson's record, no one (or hardly anyone) was surely going to bet their money on him doing excellently.  Didn't think he'd do as bad as previously as you could see there was sure improvement but thought he wouldn't be much of a threat when the new ball shine went.  Turns out he didn't really need a new ball shine.


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the best way to prepare or practice for the WC would be to win games I would think. if they are doing anything which is making them lose games then I'm afraid they are not on the right track.
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Trott hits a ton. Collingwood to bat at 7. Now that give some idea about how serious England are about this series. They are playing just 4 front line bowlers. For sure they are just trying everyone out there for the WC.
 
I 100% agree. Even Strauss was cracking a smile at the SCG when they were losing the other night. Broad carrying the drinks. This series means absolutely nothing to the English team. They have the ashes now they are after the World Cup. The whole thing is a glorified net.
 
You may see people like Finn & Broad play in the last few games just so they can keep their rythym up. The batsman will all play just for practice.
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Had a feeling England would be back to winning ways on ‘Australia Day’ so typical of England. Trott was Excellent with bat and ball, with two important wickets. Hussey and White can be dangerous when they get themselves set, as we all know. Jimmy Anderson bowled like he’d not been away. Not bad for someone who can’t bowl outside England as some suggested early on in this thread. Overall a good game to watch I thought. Interesting Flower has persisted with Prior at the top of the order and fair enough it payed off.

 
I think Andreson surprised everyone with his abilities on Australian wickets- I mean if all we Aussies have got to go on is his previous form, then the bloke was averaging with the ball 40 in odi's and 83 in tests. Is it any wonder that we were dubious about his ability on Aussie wickets?
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Had a feeling England would be back to winning ways on ‘Australia Day’ so typical of England. Trott was Excellent with bat and ball, with two important wickets. Hussey and White can be dangerous when they get themselves set, as we all know. Jimmy Anderson bowled like he’d not been away. Not bad for someone who can’t bowl outside England as some suggested early on in this thread. Overall a good game to watch I thought. Interesting Flower has persisted with Prior at the top of the order and fair enough it payed off.

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A win by 21 runs to keep the series alive. Fine century from Trott , backed up by some decent wobbly stuff as well.  I can't help thinking though that England just had to win to keep everyone's interest - no matter what nationality.   So TV ratings should be sustained at least until Sunday night and maybe a little longer than that.

         Rather cynical, what !


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So Australia 92-3 with the most out of form player on the Aussie side falling to the most out of form player on the English side !!    Watson still there , but game on now , 18 overs gone.

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299 after 50 overs and as zuhair rightly points out , no 5th bowler. Collingwood will have to bowl plenty and I don't think 299 is enough.  To have a chance they need to strike early and get them on the backfoot , but it's a big ask.
              Those square boundaries are very inviting and there could be plenty of balls having the crowd ducking and diving.
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Trott hits a ton. Collingwood to bat at 7. Now that give some idea about how serious England are about this series. They are playing just 4 front line bowlers. For sure they are just trying everyone out there for the WC.
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Spot on Flipper , the performances by Australia as a unit have been far from convincing. Yes Watson's knock was top class , but there's been little else to shout about.

       Today in Adelaide England won the toss on a belter and lost Strauss early to Lee, but then Prior and Trott made merry until I started writing this post!!  Prior's just gone cutting Smith to point for a fine 67. Trott's on 50 and been joined b y the fit again Pietersen.   Still a good start with England on 137-2 after 22.3 overs - this should be well past 300 and will need to be !
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I really don't think you have seen any of these one day games sam? If you had you clearly wouldn’t make a statement such as    ‘fact of the matter is that AUS are still the best ODI side and they are proving that’ ……..this is so way off the mark and untrue. Clearly England are going through the motions and Australia are so poor they are just getting over the line.

I tend to find it really helps my judgement on games when I actually see the game I’m commenting on, probably why I tend to only comment on Englands games for the most part unless I find time in my busy life to watch other nations play. Australia are definitely NOT proving anything right now.    
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fact of the matter is that AUS are still the best ODI side and they are proving that. I have been saying this since a long time and Brett Lee's performance just proves it, the old set of bowlers (Lee, Clark) should have been persisted with for some more time and may be the resutlts in test matches wouldn't have been as dissapointing. It really is great to have Brett Lee back and firing!
 
Clarke's form has been a huge worry and Ponting wasn't in the best of touch either, in the WC AUS will realy heavily on Watson and the Hussey brothers. Cameron White will be an interesting watch too, I do rate him very highly.
 
ENG are still not up to the mark in limited overs cricket, remember they narrowly won 3-2 against PAK too despite being far more superior in the test matches.
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Hammond, Swann and Broad are probably injured, well, at least they said Swann had a knee injury and Broad probably is still recovering from the Ashes injury. 
 
Broad was at the game running around- I heard Swann is fit and Anderson is on holiday. What does that say about the ECB priorities regarding this ODI series..


Broad has an abdominal strain, which won't stop him running about a bit, but certainly will stop him bowling just yet. Swann has been sent home which rather suggests he isn't fit - if they wanted to rest him I am quite sure they would just say they were resting him, much as they did with Anderson. I am sure all concerned would like to win this series, but all in all it really is a pretty inconsequential filler in between the 2 parts of the winter that do actually matter.
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His record as an opener is ordinary at best , tomorrow could be his last chance to secure the spot for the world cup. Then again , the pitches will be flatter in the subcontinent and he might blast it to all parts !
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Clearly Matt Prior is not an opener, Ian Bell needs to move up to open with Prior down the order.
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Agreed Amal , neither side has performed solidly , it's 3-0 because England's batting has been terrible.  The scoreline's right though , England deserve a fat zero !
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Are Aussies on their original track again? I doubt it. I think England is playing too ridiculous!!
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Anderson's on his way back and will be playing before this series ends - hopefully tomorrow!  Hammond , although this series wasn't the priority when they arrived in Australia - it is now.  No way did they go into this with a "we don't care attitude" - that's not the way this team approaches any series.  They'll be going hell for leather tomorrow and just have to win to give themselves a lift. Remember , some of these guys weren't in the test side and they are desparate to turn this around.
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Hammond, Swann and Broad are probably injured, well, at least they said Swann had a knee injury and Broad probably is still recovering from the Ashes injury. 
 
Broad was at the game running around- I heard Swann is fit and Anderson is on holiday. What does that say about the ECB priorities regarding this ODI series..
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Hammond, Swann and Broad are probably injured, well, at least they said Swann had a knee injury and Broad probably is still recovering from the Ashes injury. 
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I think the English are shot to pieces , just knackered.   No Bresnan or Pietersen and the return of Collingwood didn't auger well before the start.   Collingwood looks terrible and made Doherty look like Warne - I trembel at the thought of him batting on a dustbowl in India.
              Anderson could be back for Wednesday , but it's the batting , not the bowling that's the problem.  Brett Lee generated real pace and I was pleased for him , but I don't think India , SL or SA will be losing sleep over either of these sides at the moment.
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I was actually at the ground and wondered why Anderson, Swann, Broad, Finn, Onions? even weren't playing.
 
I think the ECB couldn't given a rats arse about this series and are just giving the second and even third string bowlers a crack before the world cup, and giving the batsman a net.
 
Couldn't see anyone in england giving a toss even if they lose 7 zip. The WC is the important one, and this side is nothing like you will see come World Cup time.
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England have been absolutely diabolical in these games, and from what I have seen they only really need to raise their performance to 'moderate' and they will be able to beat this very ordinary Aussie team.


Agreed, They are playing like a poor side, not like them at all. You would think there bowling would be more of a concern but its their batting and their mentality that is more of a concern in the series . I thought Trott played well but, but he could have and should have played a much, much bigger role, his innings should have been similar to Marsh in the second game in terms of Strike rate, and aggressiveness. Not to mention running out Strauss.

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