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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Posts: 9453 |
Topic: The Ashes 2010/11 in AustraliaPosted: 23 January 2011 at 8:44pm |
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I guess Brett Lee has been what the Aussies needed, eh, a bowler who will always fight. Good to see him back!
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Clobber
Captain
Joined: 03 January 2006 Posts: 8838 |
Posted: 23 January 2011 at 5:54pm |
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England have been absolutely diabolical in these games, and from what I have seen they only really need to raise their performance to 'moderate' and they will be able to beat this very ordinary Aussie team.
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 23 January 2011 at 4:47pm |
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Aussies 3-0 up, Hmm so time for some prediction again. (Though I am not a fan of predicting ODI's, still let me try).
England to win 4 on a trot now!
Initially I worte England to win next three and decider I'm not sure , but when I make a wish , let me make compeletely in their favour.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 6:57pm |
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I stayed up and watch the whole of the Australian innings and it was a mix bag really. The pitch early up was a bit tacky so some seam movement was always going to happen now and again. Clarke deserve to be drop for getting out to such a poor delivery and an even poorer shot. Chris Tremlett was excellent and for me, he's been the man making the best use of those Australian pitch. He should have been in the world cup squad.
Shaun Marsh from the start looked in good form and the pitch, oh my, I loved it, the bounce was perfect for cross batted strokes. Shaun Marsh played both pace and spin superbly and Douggie was a bit of entertainment. Strauss probably could have called back Tremlett to try and finish him off but it wasn't to be.
When I went to sleep I thought England should win it easily because I thought the pitch eased up a lot so it is quite shocking that England lost.
Australia problem all summer is that their players have been out of form. With Watson and Marsh, you saw the difference, the team isn't short of quality (well, in Smith's case, yeah) but more so, short of form.
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flipper
Square Leg
Joined: 27 August 2005 Location: England Posts: 488 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 4:31pm |
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Not much between |
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Warwickshire County Cricket, Edgbaston Birmingham England. County Champions 2012
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 3:42pm |
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I told you AUS are regaining their lost form just at the right time.
Indeed leaving out Marsh and Fergusson for the WC is a mistake, I can bet on that. Hastings is in there for reasons I don't know ( I mean what has he done to earn a WC berth?) and Smith should not have been there either, he has done nothing of note so far.
This selection can cost them big time in the cup.
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 12:40pm |
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No it is not. Aussies had a good game and they are anyways a much better one day side. Probably Collingwood will get the next game as they missed him today.
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flipper
Square Leg
Joined: 27 August 2005 Location: England Posts: 488 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 11:33am |
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And now for an in-depth analysis of |
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Warwickshire County Cricket, Edgbaston Birmingham England. County Champions 2012
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 9:11am |
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They seem to be going along nicely - that probably means time for a wicket !
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 9:01am |
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This pair going well and with Morgan to follow I would say England hold the advantage at the moment. Clarke is not the smartest of captains, his field placings have been ordinary and this has allowed the pair to have easy runs.
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 8:57am |
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I don't rate him either zuhair , it's alright being unorthodox if you're successful with it. To me Smith always looks like getting out and his legspin is ordinary at best.
Back to the game and it's interesting after Bollinger got Strauss and Pietersen in successive balls - Bolly is having a great game. Currently 70-3 with Bell and Trott steadying the ship. Edited by Sledger - 21 January 2011 at 8:58am |
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 8:16am |
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And he has played that shot often - even in test matches. He is just an over-hyped character. They would be better off playing the likes of Marsh or Ferguson instead because Smith hardly bowls - and when he does it is mostly crap.
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 7:12am |
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That "shot" by Smith was absolutely diabolical - for that "shot" he should be shot !
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 7:10am |
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Steven Smith is a waste - Marsh should have been there for sure.
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 7:06am |
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Yes , fine effort by Marsh and Bollinger to get to 230. What's laughable and shows how disorganised the Aussie selectors are is Marsh doesn't make their world cup 15 ! The lad's always looked comfortable on the international stage and is the obvious replacement for Mike Hussey . if he doesn't recover. You can expect the Aussie press to give them hell in tomorrow's papers.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 6:52am |
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Pretty good recovery that by Marsh and company. they have posted , so now they have some score to defend at least. Would be a good chase - wont be easy looking at the pitch.
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 21 January 2011 at 5:10am |
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Australia are 83-4 after being put in by Strauss. All the top order failed against some impressive bowling by Shazhad and Tremlett. England seem to have taken their foot off the gas , Australia were 33-4 !! Tredwell's bowling now in partnership with Trott , the latter who can's even be classed as a part-timer ! Marsh , in for Mike Hussey is on 23 and White 30. These two are dangerous and are quite capable of taking Australia to a more than decent total.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 20 January 2011 at 5:52pm |
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Hammond, you're really being severe on the Australia side. Australia winning in 2007 had nothing alone to do with Glenn McGrath. Nathan Bracken was probably more economical than him in that tournament. Brag Hogg was oustanding for Australia too in ODI's for the last few years he played. McGrath, Bracken, Hogg and Lee formed an excellent ODI bowling attack (although Tait filled in for Lee in the WC and has his success due to McGrath and especially Bracken stiffling the batsmen).
Also, don't forget what Hayden did in the WC against SA or what Gilly did in the finals. Sri Lanka was already the loser after that Gilchrist assault. As much as I didn't like it at that time, Australia was definitely the power house in Cricket.
Hayden, Gilchrist, Ponting, Clarke, Symonds, Hussey, Hogg, Lee, Bracken, McGrath - why would it surprise anyone that they won with this line up? Only another team with everyone in form would have consistently defeated this Australian team.
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 20 January 2011 at 6:27am |
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50 over cricket isn't the lottery that T20 is , lose a few wickets early on and good sides can still post a fine score - that rarely happens in T20. Batsmen have time to settle and bowlers can get into some sort of rhythm. Still , games can turn on a brilliant catch or fantastic run out - but it's rare that the winning side has been lucky.
The round robin matches are important only in the sense that the fancied sides want to progress into the knock out stages. The performances to make that stage aren't that important , remember when Pakistan won in 1991-2 , they qualified by the skin of their teeth. The sides that finish 4th in their group could well lose 3 matches and go on to win the competition - just a run of 3 straight wins will be enough! |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 20 January 2011 at 3:45am |
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Yes, this is the first time since '99,Aussies will be going into a WC with hardly any legends left. I have not tipped them to proceed to Semi Final either.
Yes regarding England for Final berth, you seem to spot on. It is very difficult to predict Semis lineup still I bet IND,ENG and SA seem to be there with fourth spot a question mark. SL deserves to fill that first , but you never know, toss will be very crucial with the matches under lights in SL.
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Hammond
3rd Man
Joined: 21 August 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 213 |
Posted: 20 January 2011 at 2:09am |
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The reason why Australia won the world cup in 2007
GD McGrath (Aus) 11 80.5 5 357 26 3/14 13.73 4.41 18.6 0 0
Highest aggregrate wickets and lowest average in the competition. That was it nothing else.
Australia are dead. They won't even reach the semis.
England on the other hand with their depth are a chance for the final. Might be too big a hurdle in the end, but as we are talking about rolls, England haven't lost a single ODI series since mid-2009. They've played 7 series since then. In fact, they've only lost two odi series since August 2008. Australia have lost 5. I would (again) be putting my money on England for a final berth.
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"I never knew what colour the ball was only it's size" Colour blind Bill Ponsford..
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MalhotraRaj84
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Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 19 January 2011 at 8:53pm |
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Aus will perform very good , but to say that "we konw who the winner is this time" is going bit too far. Actually winning progressoin never holds good for long term, if it had then after '75 & '79 , West Indies would have won all the titles till now and eyeing 10th by now. |
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 19 January 2011 at 4:28pm |
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you never know sledge, we all know they rise to the occasion, let us not forget that they Ponting is still undefeated in a WC game as captain and AUS are not just three time defending WC champions but also winners of the champions trophy since last two times... so cometh an ICC event and you know who the winner is! |
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 19 January 2011 at 6:44am |
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No Sam , it was Watson and practically nothing else - miraculous innings like that is a freak and he won't do it again in this series. I still think England will win this series , especially when Anderson comes back. |
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 18 January 2011 at 5:20pm |
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terrific innings that by watson! one of the best! AUS are returning to form.
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bladescape
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Excellence in the making Joined: 14 June 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1809 |
Posted: 18 January 2011 at 5:48am |
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I mentioned it before, so many people generalize, there are almost always exceptions. |
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You know, I'm trying to decide whether to change my siggy or not...
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 18 January 2011 at 5:39am |
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They were very scruffy all round - Haddin missed three stumpings !! Blimey , Kamran Akmal can't better (or worsen) that ! |
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 18 January 2011 at 12:11am |
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Hammond, doesn't matter if the track is flat or not, you got to take advantage of it. I remember in 2002, west Indies vs India at the best batting deck in the world, the Antigua Recreation Ground. Between Lara and Tendulkar, they only managed 4 runs, and loads of runs were scored that day.
The Aussie team probably wasn't convincing (and they weren't, when was the last time an Australian team let go so much in the field?).
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Hammond
3rd Man
Joined: 21 August 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 213 |
Posted: 17 January 2011 at 8:18am |
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Probably
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"I never knew what colour the ball was only it's size" Colour blind Bill Ponsford..
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bladescape
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Excellence in the making Joined: 14 June 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1809 |
Posted: 17 January 2011 at 5:52am |
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And I'm what? Indian?
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You know, I'm trying to decide whether to change my siggy or not...
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