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    Posted: 16 June 2009 at 10:55am
True that. Lee on his current form won't make it in the playing eleven. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2009 at 10:59am
Yer I want our attack to be: Johnson, Siddle, Clark and Hilfenhaus. 3 very different bowlers - 2 highly experienced ones in there and 2 less experienced but effective. Siddle has played tests in 3 countries now, so he's picking up more and more experience and has done very well in his 7 tests - hope to see more of him, top Victorian talent.
Hilfenhaus will swing that duke like crazy and Johnson is really got this inswing to the right handers happening.
I don't see Hauritz playing... I feel that a full pronged pace attack can work in England - England won the last Ashes with quick bowlers, Giles didn't really do a hell of a lot realistically. North, Clarke and Katich can be used as change ups and Ponting better use them. If Hauritz plays ahead of say Hilfenhaus, then Watson should come in for North in order for there to be an extra quick option.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2009 at 11:00am
McDonald shouldn't play either - he is mostly a bowler, and even Lee would be a better option... and Lee can also bat as well, just like McDonald.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2009 at 11:16am
Now that is going too far mate. Lee ain't that good a batsman. He is fine but McDonald is a hell lot better than Lee. He should not be playing though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2009 at 11:21am
If they pick Macca it will be for his bowling - I still think Lee is a better bowler and I don't see Macca's batting doing a hell of a lot anyway, don't think Lee would do any worse with the bat. But yer, of course McDonald is a better batsman overall.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2009 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by milkman

KP won't play 5 tests either, he's not right at all with that achillies. 
 
Something is wrong with his head it seems, he gets out too wrecklessly now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2009 at 1:31pm
Well it's not just that, he is seriously injured and he's forcing himself to play... that's never a good thing. KP is the main star, especially when Flintoff only has his bowling dimension working for him - could he be like England's McGrath of 2005? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 7:02am
Johnson is the main bowling option for Aus,Siddle will back him up,but Hilfenhaus hasn't really impressed me.
Hughes and Katich will be the main points of the batting line up,Ponting and Mike Hussey aren't really in good enough form.
Clarke could perform,but I'm not to confident on that department.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 8:07am
Clarke had a great summer up until he went to RSA where he did have a lot of opportunies. Hussey has been out of sorts in tests, but actually looked good in the ODIs which was odd. Ponting did extremely well in the MCG and SCG tests and that was only 4 or 5 tests back. I agree, our openers are both in form and are immensely talented - Australia will rely on them a lot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 8:14am
Michael Clarke in his last 9 Tests (3 against NZ, then the 6 against RSA)

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unfiltered 47 3204 151 47.82 10 18 6/9 37.77 1 39 0 Profile
filtered 8 741 138 57.00 2 0 - - 0 5 0

He's shown some good form... along with those 2 x 100s are those 2 x 90s scores that he got.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 9:22am
Originally posted by milkman

Michael Clarke in his last 9 Tests (3 against NZ, then the 6 against RSA)Career averages
    




milkman, I think Michael Clarke is a top player and one I think England supporters are dangerously underestimating this summer. To join the top tier, though, he has to iron out the disparity between home and away averages (as shown in extreme form over the 2 SA series) which is the blip on an increasingly strong career record. I think we'll know a lot more about him after this summer, particularly whether he is 'merely' very good or something a lot, lot better than that.

Have you any insight as to what happened to him on the SA tour - bad decisions, conditions, nemesis bowler etc?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 9:42am
He scored a 50 in the first test and looked great. From them on you sort of felt that he was almost tiring and that because other players dominated like Hughes for instance, there was less pressure on him to perform. Look at that 98 he scored against NZ - under pressure. He was scoring his 2 tons and 2 90s under immense pressure. When the pressure came off, he relaxed too much I felt. That 90 he scored at Lords in 05 was also an innings under pressure, but he was younger and a lot more indecisive. Certainly I'd say that he lifts when the heat is on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 1:11pm
Clarke is a pressure player, I don't think anyone on the Aussie side does it better than him!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 1:22pm
Hussey in his prime can do it for sure. Always felt Ricky seemed to get out when the pressure was on, I mean he has stuck around before like in the 05 Ashes when Australia drew. He disappoints me a fair bit with the bat, right now we're struggling somewhat and he is not making enough runs and not justifying his position as Australia's premier player at the moment (i.e. he gets paid the most and just won the Allan Border Medal)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 1:39pm
A bad patch milkman, at some point in time, all Cricketers will go through it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 1:54pm
Interesting thoughts about Ponting. Career average of 56, average since beginning of 2007 of 43. Averages in the 30s in 3 of his last 6 series.

Past his peak or due a massive series?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2009 at 2:50pm
Past his peak, had a glorious half ah decade scoring massively!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 5:20am
I still thinks it's in him. When he got that ton at the MCG and then that 99 he looked at his best. He gets a lot of starts but isn't going on... that's the thing with him, in the past once he started he'd go on to a ton - but not lately.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 6:34am
He certainly has his best years past him. But he still walks into any test side of the world currently. such is his impact
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 6:52am
We thought Tendulkar lost it, but he definitely came back with a bang. I'm hoping the same for Ponting. He has a had a few niggles here and there and the pressure has been on. Hopefully he'll be close to his best versus England. We missed him in 2005 - he only got 1 ton. An in form Ponting will mean the end for England or at least make their job a hell of a lot harder.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 6:59am
Has the England squad (16) been announced?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 7:05am
They're the home side, so I doubt they'll have 16 - maybe 13, and if that's the case they'll announce it very late. Otherwise it will be a bigger squad which they'll announce earlier.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 7:23am

My England XI :

Cook, Strauss, Bopara, KP, Collingwood, Prior, Flintoff, Broad, Swann, Rashid, Sidebottom.
Haven't seen Rashid in the longer version. But I feel it is not a bad idea to have a leg spinner + 3 seamers in the squad instead of 4 seamers. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 7:50am
I will play only one spinner instead. Onions has to play.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 8:40am
Yer they won't play 2 spinners. Australia is more likely to be troubled by finger spin or good swing bowling. Not that Australia would necessarily hit the leggie out of the ground, but they have a strange weakness to finger spin. Good swing bowling will get any batsmen, regardless of their talent. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 9:39am
Was looking at some of the archives before. Phillip Hughes took on the keeping duties in an ODD game when Haddin got injured for 9 overs. He was also a prolific rugby league player and played alongside Australian star Greg Inglis at junior level. Nice little resume so far for Hughes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 10:40am
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I will play only one spinner instead. Onions has to play.


I still get the strong feeling that if he is fit and bowling well, Sidebottom is ahead of Onions in the queue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 10:51am
If that's the case Clobs, then there's a pretty decent back up bowler for England if Onions doesn't play. Obviously if Flintoff is available and fit (which he is currently showing) he will be one of the main bowlers, so it would be hard for England to go with more than 3 front line pacers (Anderson, Sidebottom, Broad  + Flintoff) and then Swann as well. Onions doesn't fit in unless the selectors decide that Broad isn't up to scratch or Sidebottom should be dropped - but both those assertions would be unfair. Again, I am really liking England's balance and even in Flintoff is not in great touch with the bat, Swann and Broad are very capable lower order batsmen. Long batting line up and 5 good bowlers is a nice mix.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 11:17am
Why drop Onions for Sidebottom?True that he won't be bowling to the West Indians but he should be given the chance that he has earned. would be unfair on Onions if he is dropped for Sidebottom. If they drop him for another spinner, that is understandable though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2009 at 11:23am
How is it unfair? Onions just debuted a couple of games back and didn't exactly face the best side in the world. 
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