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milkman
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Topic: The Ashes Tour 2009 Posted: 20 September 2009 at 4:25pm |
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Morgan gets himself out too. England should take this, but I guess it's less convincing after losing all these wickets have fallen.
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Posted: 20 September 2009 at 4:43pm |
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I bet if WI and ENG were in one group in CT then atleast one team would have got 2 points.Losing 6-1(pity that I have to say not confirmed yet as match is still going on) to this Aussie team is unacceptable.
EDIT: As I write 6 down.
EDIT2: Probably under strength WI would have easily won.
Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 20 September 2009 at 4:49pm
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Posted: 20 September 2009 at 8:17pm |
Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84
I bet if WI and ENG were in one group in CT then atleast one team would have got 2 points.Losing 6-1(pity that I have to say not confirmed yet as match is still going on) to this Aussie team is unacceptable.
EDIT: As I write 6 down. EDIT2: Probably under strength WI would have easily won. |
Can you please tell the meaning of this Aussies team? I think they are far better than current Indian team.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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milkman
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 2:33am |
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Lovely to see Cameron White get the man of the series award. Really good series for him and a career changing series I feel. He has pretty much made himself a permanent fixture in that middle order and his capacity to play long innings and also slog is really handy. He's a good inclusion and a possible future captain. Lee was also impressive on his comeback and would have been a contender for the MoS award too. Swann was fantastic. I love seeing the offies do well and I felt he should have been back in the side and they made the right choice. He, alongside Strauss , Anderson and Broad are definite inclusions for the first CT game.
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 3:46am |
Originally posted by mystery
Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84
I bet if WI and ENG were in one group in CT then atleast one team would have got 2 points.Losing 6-1(pity that I have to say not confirmed yet as match is still going on) to this Aussie team is unacceptable. EDIT: As I write 6 down. EDIT2: Probably under strength WI would have easily won. |
Can you please tell the meaning of this Aussies team? I think they are far better than current Indian team. |
You will get the answer when India take on Aussies.
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 6:16am |
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So a token win with the Aussies probably thinking about South Africa. very impressive stuff from Swann though and Onions and Anderson did a more than decent job too. As JP pointed out , Shah and Bopara's running is laughable , they're a nightmare to bat with. Glad to see that Wright will be okay for Friday , but the team's inability to accelerate when it's needed is their major downfall. Only the Windies and possibly NZ have a weaker middle order. Can't Shah stand on a cricket ball when arriving in Joburg tomorrow ?
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milkman
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 6:27am |
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The other strange the about Shah's inclusion is that he is into his 30s now ... it really doesn't make sense to play a guy who can't even do the basics like run between the wickets, is so nervy despite his 'experience' and is so inept in the field. I guess another problem for England is that Shah, Colly and Strauss (Morgan has some tons for IRE) are the only men in the side who have actually registered ODI tons. Bopara has a highest score of 60 in almost 50 ODIs, Prior has been shuffled around too much. They just need some stability. The talent is pretty much there.
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 7:33am |
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face saving win for ENG but it was good to see. Still they'll be the second weakest side in the CT after the WI. NZL showed good signs yesterday against IND so I believe they might have found their rhythm.
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 7:56am |
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6-1 still looks pretty awful.
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 10:37am |
Saw a great comment this morning - a joke of course - that Australia won the six qualifying matches before England won the final.
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 11:30am |
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I don't know about that... I thought this series 'didn't matter' and the English supporters on this forum (not naming any names) 'don't care'.
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 3:11pm |
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yeah the joke JP refers to proves beyond all shadow of a doubt that the lives of every single England cricket fan hung on that all important one day series.
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Posted: 21 September 2009 at 4:16pm |
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Was Eng-Aus ODI series important? Will be remembered? I don't know and don't care,it's individual's opinion.What I know for sure is that it will be in history books that England lost the series 6-1 while England won the Ashes 2-1.For sure 2-1 Ashes victory is sweet,but 4-3 ODI scoreline would have been much sweeter.Even Strauss told "There is a limit to Ashes goodwill".
I am sure no player in this world would like to lose even a single match.Saying we won what mattered is bit like running away from reality,that everyone does.Many Indians and Pakistanis say like no matter we win the cup or not,we need to beat the other.I have said it sometime, but deep down when India lost final against Australia in WC'03,I felt bad,victory over Pakistan in group stage did not really matter.
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Posted: 22 September 2009 at 2:51am |
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Hey, good thing the English fans have this mentality, else they'd be doing like West Indians and not turning up to games and missing out on a great opportunity to see top class sportsmen in action.
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Posted: 22 September 2009 at 8:15am |
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Contrary to what a lot of people think I reckon this massive loss of 6-1 will be remembered. I certainly don't think a lot of people will forget that after England won the Ashes they got mauled in the ODIs and lost 6 in a row.
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Posted: 22 September 2009 at 9:15am |
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This thread will be getting moved onto The Honours Board in the not too distant future so any closing comments or thoughts are welcome.
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Posted: 22 September 2009 at 9:20am |
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This was a wonderful tour of England. Exciting contest between 2 reasonably good sides. Not as exciting as 2005, but not as dull as 2006/07 and I think both sides can take a lot out of their performances during the tour. Well done to England on a wonderful Ashes triumph and to Australia for showing some good ODI form. Sad to see Freddy go but the real find of the tour, Stuart Broad will keep the English fans excited and hopefully keep the Ashes flame alight.
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Posted: 22 September 2009 at 1:35pm |
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I feel strangely flat about the whole affair and that's not happened to me in any Ashes series before (and I include 2006/7 in that!). Yes , I was pleased that England won , but they didn't convince me that they're ready to take on the world and the Aussies lost their way at crucial moments. The highlights have to be the arrival of Onions and the improvement in Broad. Swann brought smiles too and must be filling Panesar's nightmares. That we won with KP missing for more than half the series should suggest a corner has been turned , but still I have doubts.
The SA tour will answer a lot of questions , is Cook the partner for Strauss , or will Denly take over ? Will an attack without Flintoff be able to knock over such a strong batting line up and will Bopara find his mojo ?
They have a settled side , capable of beating any side in the world and the English ? I just don't know.
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 12:54am |
Well, sadly, I didn't get to see as much of this Ashes as I would have liked, mainly due to work and having Cricket practically every weekend.
Strauss was superb, he's really in top knick. Cook is a very uncertain player for pitched up balls and he needs to sort that out. Bopara, he will know where it all went wrong but sadly, the English middle order failed badly. Thanks to Prior and the lower order of Broad and Swann, they were saved many ah times.
The bowling of Broad later on in the series was fantastic to watch, I always knew he had a bowling brain but inconsistency made me think twice about him but he's come on well. Swann is a fine off spinner, he bowled to full earlier in the series and bowled better in the last few. Onions was a good find, nice McGrath style of bowling close to the stumps.
For Aussies, they were by far a better batting unit but remarkable spells was the difference in the end. Siddle is a very good keep on coming at you bowler, hit's the deck and i'm a big fan of front on bowlers. Hilfenhaus was very consistent and was good to see. I think he's a genuine away swinger and not really because of English conditions why he did so well. Johnson I still find is the luckiest bowler i've seen!!
And lastly, farewell to the big man Freddie Flintoff!
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 6:46am |
I'll keep my degrading comments to myself and just say that it was a great series,and that I'll miss Watching Flintoff steam up to the crease!
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 7:17am |
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I will remember this Ashes for Monty's heroics at Cardiff.
Edited by zuhair_abbasi - 24 September 2009 at 7:17am
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 1:28pm |
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Haha Zuhair!! This series won't go down as being that memorable for the sheer fact that the quality of the cricket was not particularly amazing. 2005 on the other hand you had Warne taking 40 wickets, Jones swinging the old ball both ways and Freddy taking poles and making runs and inspiring the crowds once more.
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Posted: 24 September 2009 at 3:08pm |
2005 was just unbelieveable, don't think any will get any better than that.
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Posted: 25 September 2009 at 5:04am |
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2005 was exceptional - but this one was not that boring either. Certainly not up there in trems of quality and excitement - but still was interesting enough to leave people guessing till the very end.
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Posted: 25 September 2009 at 5:44am |
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I was interested the whole way through , was a fairly riveting series. However if you look at the numbers in England who viewed their Oval win as opposed to their draw in 2005 there's a massive difference. Pay/Cable TV is not a good thing at all, the Ashes in Australia was on free TV and that was an overseas series.
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Posted: 25 September 2009 at 7:13am |
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Yes , there was some intense sessions , it was pretty topsy turvy stuff. Maybe I've forgotten how tight it was after being subjected to that one day marathon.
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Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:03am |
This ashes was very important for the English supporters as the decade was not completely dominated by the Aussies. In the 90's I thought Ashes was losing it's charm as it was a complete domination by one side for more than 10 years. Now it seems to have regained it.
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Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:09am |
Anyone knows the answer for this question?
Which country, other than England holds the record for giving birth to more Test Cricketers who represented England in Ashes? And name the cricketers?
I read this in a website. So googling will definetly give the answer. Please don't post the answer if you come to know about it by googling. Guesses are fine.
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Posted: 25 September 2009 at 1:35pm |
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South Africa?
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Posted: 25 September 2009 at 1:46pm |
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I'll say India. Especially in the start of test cricket a lot of Englishmen born in colonial India and even Indian's of 'higher status' who became British (like the raj's) played for England.
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