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70_degree_spin 
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 Topic: The Barnes-Bedser bowling methodPosted: 08 April 2007 at 9:23pm |
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Two of the most successful bowlers of all time had a special grip for the ball. This grip was holding the seam with your middle finger and holding the other 4 fingers symetrically to the side. Despit being a reasonably easy grip to use, these two bowlers are the only 2 (of my knowledge) who have used this grip and why is this? This grip enables you to get over a metre of inswing, leg breaks pitching on lega dn hitting off at 70mph and it is reasonably easy to use. Why on earth don't more fast bowlers use this method of bowling? To me, it's insane. if I was a fast bowler I would kill to bowl like Barnes and Bedser, both legends of bowling.
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Joshiv
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Posted: 08 April 2007 at 11:47pm |
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You get more controll with jus the two fingers. Using your full fingers makes it liable for the ball to lose control, also in release it won't glide out as easily with two fingers, so the pace could be reduced, unless you bang it in where by the grip you speak off could be better.
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Migara
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Posted: 09 April 2007 at 6:57am |
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One of my mates used this grip to bowl the slower ball. He was a medium pacer bowling around 80 mph mark, and bowling banana in swingers. He used to bowl this kind of delivery tha tails in through the air to pitch on off and then spin away to hit or miss the off. With reduced pace (around 65-70 mph I thought) it was very difficult to get control ove the drives.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 09 April 2007 at 8:54pm |
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but why dont more people use it?
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Chin Music
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Posted: 10 April 2007 at 3:41pm |
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The ball comes out the hand slower, so you're using the same amount of effort, achieving no more swing or accuracy (that I can make out anyway) and losing pace. In fact, I imagine it would be harder to keep the seam straight so you would get less swing and movement as well
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 10 April 2007 at 9:53pm |
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but these 2 guys are the best seam and swing bowlers England has ever produced
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Sledger
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 6:08am |
You're not learning lad , they were fine bowlers , but the best cannot be ratified. |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 7:36pm |
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sorry for sounding stupid but what does ratified mean?
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scuudz
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 7:42pm |
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use an online dictionary. hopefully, u wont ever have to sound stupid online again. ;-)
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saad_anwar
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 10:35pm |
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i can bowl it sumtimes but it does mess up and i get hit around the park
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Kerm
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 10:56pm |
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Tried it today, could probably have done it better with practice but
seemed to take some of the pace off the delivery. Also made it near
impossible to bowl style of off-cutter which is my main weapon so I
doubt i'll be trying it again.
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143no
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Posted: 12 April 2007 at 5:15am |
That is such a loaded statment scuudzy.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 12 April 2007 at 4:45pm |
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wot do you mean by that then 143? Or are you trying to take another cheap shot at me for no reason?
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scuudz
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Posted: 12 April 2007 at 5:18pm |
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hehe....hilarious.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 12 April 2007 at 7:53pm |
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so now youve got a vendetta against me for no reason? I dont understand what i do wrong apart from express my opinion.
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fishcake14
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Posted: 12 April 2007 at 10:07pm |
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Nobody's done anything frightfully derogatory mate, chill.....
The online dictionary for ratified:
Hope that helps so we can get back on the topic, whatever it was.....  Edited by fishcake14 - 12 April 2007 at 10:08pm |
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143no
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Posted: 13 April 2007 at 4:11am |
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V is for vendetta.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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NZ_Fast
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Posted: 13 April 2007 at 4:33am |
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Maybe that kind of grip worked for those bowlers, Like Murali's grip works for him, but for the vast majority those grips dont work and are detremental to their performance. Thats why more people dont use it.
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