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Mikey
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Topic: The Best XIPosted: 20 July 2011 at 2:46pm |
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Purely included him for the sake of variety. Just why I thought Lara and Sobers should also be in there, as they are left handed batsmen. But I understand your comments Zuhair.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 21 July 2011 at 1:38am |
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To be honest, the Sehwag inclusion isn't a bad one, sure he's a pure modern day batsman but what do we want him to do, bat slowly and bowlers bowl the deliveries for him to hit? The guy doesn't hook much but he uses all the factors to his own advantage is not to be blamed for these things. The guy has made century against McGrath, Gillespie and Warne as well, with 2 of those bowlers being great bowlers. He's ah dasher, not a grafter and i'd gladly take him anyday in my XI over any other opener i've seen.
True though that the Kapil Dev selection is a bizarre one. Sobers batting alone should have him over him, even Jacques Kallis for that matter i'll select over him. The bowling attack is still a magnificent one but from reading and hearing the oldies, Marshall, Lillee etc should be the better picks. All in all, its still an xi that could compete severly against another XI that someone thinks is better. Kapil Dev is the biggest bizarre selection for me though. I can see logic in Ambrose, McGrath (both extremely immaculate bowlers) and also Akram (left arm, swing with new and old ball) but how can Dev make it ahead of Sobers, I don't know. A world XI without Bradman and Sobers is pure nonesense.
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Sledger
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Posted: 21 July 2011 at 6:35am |
To be fair to the 250,000 they did select Bradman - but if they hadn't the silliness would have reach even greater heights. |
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mark1508
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Posted: 21 July 2011 at 4:27pm |
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Not sure what everyone thought about the ICC world XI? Always seems a bit silly as there will always people bias when voting as well as many people guessing based on reputation.
Anyway wondered what your current Test XI would be? Obviously just a bit of fun. Had a search round the web as it was causing some debate and found this http://www.equipio.com/blog/world-test-xi. Think the team is a bit odd, but I like the criteria of having to pick someone from each nation. I think mine would be: 1. Sehwag (Ind) 2. Iqbal (Bang) 3. Tendulker (Ind) 4. Chanderpaul (WI) 5. Hussey (Aus) 6. Sangakkara (SL) 7. Afirdi (Pak) 8. Vettori (NZ) 9. Steyn (SA) 10. Anderson (Eng) 11. Khan (Ind) It's not actually as easy as you think and it's quite hard to find a NZ, Pak and Bang player. Would have been easier if the Amir and Asif weren't banned! If ur like me u'll find yourself moving around players quite a lot! |
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vote4peace
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Posted: 22 July 2011 at 8:30am |
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Why thank you mark1508, that's quiet an interesting thought . Welcome!!
After a little bit of pondering here's what I've come to..
Gayle(WI)
Cook(Eng) Kallis(SA) Tendulkar(Ind) Sanga(SL) Baz†NZ) Shakib Al-Hasan(Ban) M Johnson(Aus) Steyn(SA) |
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Mikey
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Posted: 22 July 2011 at 12:45pm |
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I think it's a bit hard to leave out Watson as the all rounder or even as a batsman (in any position). He's been in fine touch.
1. Watson (Aus) 2. Cook (Eng) 3. Sangakkara (SL) 4. Tendulkar (Ind) 5. Chanderpaul (WI) 6. Shakib al-Hasan (BD) 7. McCullum (NZ) 8. Zaheer Khan (Ind) 9. Anderson (Eng) 10. Steyn (SA) 11. Ajmal (Pak) This was really hard to compile -- no Amla, Trott, De Villiers or Kallis .. |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 22 July 2011 at 6:56pm |
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picking one from each nation then mine would be:
Cook Gayle Ponting Tendulkar Brendon Taylor Sangakkara Shakib al Hasan Vettori Steyn Gul Zaheer Khan |
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Posted: 05 September 2011 at 7:36pm |
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Here is what i consider to be worlds best 11 from the players playing currently
VIRENDER SEHWAG, SHANE WATSON, HASHIM AMLA, SACHIN TENDULKAR, JACQUES KALLIS, KUMAR SANGAKKARA(WKT KEEPER), GRAEME SWANN, ZAHEER KHAN, JAMES ANDERSON, DANIEL VETTORI, BRETT LEE Edited by Sledger - 06 September 2011 at 6:07am |
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Clobber
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Posted: 06 September 2011 at 9:07am |
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An opener that doesn't make hundreds, a wicket keeper and doesn't keep wicket and a fast bowler who can't bowl more than 4 overs
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 06 September 2011 at 9:52am |
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And another fast bowler who does not play test matches any more
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Mikey
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Posted: 06 September 2011 at 10:37am |
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Watson is a genuine all rounder. Took 5/30 for the match against SL , even where he didn't make runs. I don't actually think there's many better exponents of reverse swing in the world than Watson.
He doesn't have many hundreds to his name, but has a considerable number of 80s and 90s and I am sure that's something he is working on in his game. The XI that was posted above is clearly an ODI level. Sangakkara keeps in ODIs, Brett Lee is still one of the best in the business at ODI level and someone like Amla is ranked no.1 in ODIs for batting. Certainly looks an excellent ODI side, although I probably wouldn't play both Vettori and Swann in the same side - possibly play Afridi as your spinner instead if you were to choose one. |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 06 September 2011 at 10:39am |
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It does not seem an ODI side - Sehwag, Anderson and Kallis won't be in a 'world ODI X1'
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Mikey
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Posted: 06 September 2011 at 10:46am |
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I'd pick Gayle over Sehwag, but there's no reason to not consider picking Sehwag given his very high strike rate in the format. Kallis is an all rounder and flexible cricketers like that are useful in the format - he looks a good player in T20 too... as surprising as that sounds.
Anderson wouldn't be my pick at all... I'd choose Steyn in all formats that's for sure. |
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Clobber
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Posted: 06 September 2011 at 2:22pm |
He is so fabulous at it that he took all of 3 wickets in the entire Ashes series while the England bowlers were reversing it round corners and making a mockery of the Australian batting. |
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Mikey
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Posted: 06 September 2011 at 4:11pm |
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England had 4 bowlers bowling reverse swing, whereas Australia had their opening batsman bowling a few overs in each innings and getting some swing after the English batsmen were already settled in.
Perhaps you didn't want the last match against Sri Lanka, he was getting the ball to swing a lot at brisk fast-medium pace without a whole lot of effort. In context, I do think he's one of the best exponents of reverse swing. If there's even a hint of reverse swing he'll be the first guy to get it. This is my opinion. |
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Clobber
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Posted: 06 September 2011 at 6:53pm |
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The point remains, there was plenty of reverse swing around in the Ashes, yet in the same conditions Watson took just 3 wickets, which doesn't sound like the best in the world at anything to me. I would suggest his captain felt much the same given the number of overs he bowled, despite there being plenty of scope for him to bowl lots of overs as England racked up yet another 9 billion for 2 declared.
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Mikey
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Posted: 07 September 2011 at 4:45am |
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I think considering that he and Hussey were the only ones that looked like making over 30 runs in an innings, Ponting didn't give him as many overs as he probably should have. Nonetheless, both in England (vs Pakistan) and Sri Lanka (in this series in Sri Lanka) he has swung the ball prodigiously. To be fair, English batsmen probably play swing bowling better than any other batsmen in the world, and that's not really an exaggeration.
Watson is not an amazing bowler or an overly dangerous bowler, but in context, considering he is an opening batsman of decent ability (more so in ODIs, but continually improving in tests), his swing bowling, proportionate to his ability in batting and fielding is very, very good. But I do understand your contention, and that Ashes was a complete disaster for Australia in every facet of the game. It's definitely a low point for Australian cricket, just like when England lost 5-0 in 06/07. But look at England now. There's always room to improve and if you put the right reviews and actions in place, anything can happen. |
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Sledger
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Posted: 07 September 2011 at 6:18am |
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I'd say that Watson's a better bowler than I gave him credit for and now he's reduced his pace he's far more effective. Both of you have valid points , he didn't scare any of the Englishmen at any time in the series , but he's undone quite a few good players since. What's certain is that if he breaks down an already average Australian line up will be in deep doodah.
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Posted: 08 September 2011 at 12:57pm |
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It's ok Sledge, if anything happens to Watson, they'll turn to their new 'all-rounder' Mike Hussey.
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Mikey
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Posted: 08 September 2011 at 3:15pm |
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Clarke's an inspirational captain... give Hussey the ball and he gets SL's best batsman out? C'mon
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Posted: 09 September 2011 at 10:44am |
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Dilshan tried to return the favour by giving Sangakkara the new ball at Marsh/Hussey without the same success. Sooner or later, we'll see teams with ten genuine bowling options picked. That might be worth some thought now - can you pick an XI of frontline bowlers that could also bat or vice versa?
A very quick team for all formats to get the ball rolling: Gayle, Watson, Kallis, Yuvraj, Mathews, Dhoni, Vettori, Bresnan, Swann/Harbhajan, Steyn, Anderson/Tremlett/Harris |
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Mikey
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Posted: 09 September 2011 at 10:53am |
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I saw that JP, was a poor move to give Sanga the new ball. Sanga had the sunnies on while bowling too, reminded me of Mark Waugh.
A team where everyone can bowl decently, in any format: 1. Watson 2. Sehwag 3. Kallis 4. Clarke 5. Sachin 6. Dhoni 7. Shakib al Hasan 8. Swann 9. Bresnan 10. Zaheer Khan 11. Steyn Edited by Mikey - 09 September 2011 at 10:55am |
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dustbowl
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Posted: 10 September 2011 at 3:12am |
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1. Cook
2. Dravid 3. Trott 4. Tendulkar 5. Kallis 6. Bell 7. Prior 8. Broad 9. Swann 10. Steyn 11. Anderson Guess which team I support.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 7:58am |
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South Africa? A lot of South Africans there - Steyn, Kallis, Trott, Proir.
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Mikey
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Posted: 12 September 2011 at 2:00pm |
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It's confusing whether you support South Africa or England
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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 11:43pm |
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Oh no! Not one of these "England don't deserve to be the best because they have some of them gosh darn half bloods in them" debates again.
I support ENGLAND!!
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Posted: 05 November 2011 at 2:09am |
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Hmm, not so sure I agree with dustbowl. A side with Cook, Dravid, Trott and Kallis? I can imagine many a maiden over being bowled. lol In all seriousness, while Dravid showed that he can bat wherever required in the England series, I am sure he still prefers number 3. I wouldn't him play as a first choice opener if I can't play him at number 3 and I think if I had to pick a Test side tomorrow, I would pick Sanga or Amla ahead of Dravid at 3. My pick:
1. Cook 2. Sehwag 3. Sangakkara (c) 4. Amla 5. Kallis 6. Hussey 7. Prior (wk) 8. Broad 9. Steyn 10. Swann 11. Anderson Cook walks into any Test side as opener atm and to partner, possibly Sehwag or Gambhir despite their horrid tours of England. I would pick Sehwag for the X-factor he brings to any side. Sanga at 3, Amla at 4, Kallis at 5 gives stability to the middle order. Sanga averages 73 when playing as a pure batsman in Tests so to not pick him is a crime. Amla merits selection based on his fantastic run in recent times and Kallis is the definition of steady. If Sehwag plays a silly shot and Sanga knicks off then you know you can rely on Kallis to get you out of a hole. Really tough call between Bell and Hussey at 6 as both are stellar players. Maybe give the edge to Hussey to give a better balance between left/right handers. Also, Bell plays no. 5 in England side while no. 6 tends to be Hussey's regular position in the Australian set-up right as he comes in before Haddin. At no.7, Prior picks himself and at 8, you have to go with Broad, especially considering his magnificent summer (post-SL series), his aggressive and deadly bouncer and his more than handy batting. At no. 9, Steyn. Enough said. I can't imagine anyone on this forum would pick a test side that Steyn doesn't make. At 10, can't see much past Swann as front-line spinner. Classical action, can really give the ball a rip, with an attacking field and against non sub-continent opposition, he is lethal. Number 11 was tricky. I went with Anderson for sheer swing but I wouldn't pick him if it was a match in India or Sri Lanka - might pick Zaheer instead (injury-free Zaheer ofc). If Mohammed Amir was still available, I would have him any day for the left-armer variety and because I think he is a special bowler. I realise there is no Tendulkar and he would obviously make any all-time list but on form, I just can't pick him ahead of all those other fine batsmen. He would have to bat 4 or 5 and I would pick Kallis and Amla ahead of him to bat at those positions. 5 Englishmen and 3 South Africans, which shows who the best test nations are clearly. Nevertheless, I challenge anyone to defeat my team lol. A perfect mix of aggression (Sehwag and Prior), class (Sanga and Amla) and sheer grit (Cook and Kallis), not to mention the man for all occasions - Mike Hussey. Line+length mixed with short stuff from Broad, the perfect outswingers from Steyn, Anderson moving it both ways, Swann turning it square and Kallis ably supporting where necessary. Edited by BackwardPoint - 05 November 2011 at 5:19pm |
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Posted: 10 November 2011 at 7:51pm |
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For One day
Sehwag, gayle, Sachin, AB de villiers, Shane watson,Mike hussey, Brendon McCullum, Zaheer khan, Swann, Ajmal, Malinga |
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Posted: 29 November 2011 at 7:19pm |
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I prefer that the The best XI in world Sehwag, Tendulkar, sir don Bradman,Ponting, Dhoni,Kapil Dev,Lara,McGrath, Shane warn,marshal,and zaheer khan. this is the best team of XI.
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Posted: 30 November 2011 at 5:06am |
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Lara won't be a happy chappie at 7 !
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