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70_degree_spin 
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 Topic: THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:15pm |
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I've been in this forum for a while now and I've realised that there
are some people who know so much about cricket, they could solve any
problem you care to name. So if you need help on your game, whether it
is to do with batting, wicket keeping, fast bowling or fielding please
post a question here or answer anyone elses questions or problems. (Do
not post questions on spin bowling here, we have a different thread for
that.) Thankyou to anyone who is kind enough to answer the questions
asked.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:17pm |
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I'll start us off:
When I am batting and the bowler bowls a bouncer outside off stump what do I do? It is too high to cut and I cant hook it because its not straight enough, any help would be appreciated. |
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henjam
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Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:32pm |
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then duck or sway or defend, you don't need to play an attacking shot to a good ball, but if you insist on attacking it, ramp it. |
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:40pm |
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ramp? what on Earth is that?
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henjam
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Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:49pm |
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Trescothick plays it sometimes, and ive seen glichrist do it a few times, you like basically aim to hit it over the keepers head, playing it just on the offside, by using full face of bat, hard to explain really. its done to a quick short ball.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:53pm |
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Oh yeah. I saw Stuart Law do that in 2020 to great effect, thanks for the help!
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Sledger
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Posted: 18 October 2006 at 6:53am |
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If a ball has pitched outside off stump , you CAN hook it! Try it in the nets and roll your wrists - just hope your teammates aren't too quick for you!
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 18 October 2006 at 6:55am |
Think you missed my batting thread aswell. |
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"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 18 October 2006 at 10:19am |
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You could also upper-cut it, its basically the same as the 'ramp' only instead of deflecting the ball youre actually throwing a bat at it. However, since this means you're playing the ball above youreshoulder and behind your head its an incredibly risky shot, I think most batsmen would agree you shouldn't even be thinknig about playing it unless a) you're very very very good , b) its the last few overs with plenty of wickets in hand or c) your'e chasing a huge total and have to take stupid risks - even then, only in the final do-or-die overs
If you really have to play a shot to that ball, I say your best option is to hook, its harder to hook from outside off but it is possible, like sledger says make sure you roll your wrists |
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NZ_Fast
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Posted: 18 October 2006 at 10:52am |
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A ball that you cant play a 'normal' shot to must be half decent (even if it is a misdirected bouncer) and should be treated as such so honestly, you're probably best to just let it go past.
Though i must admit it is fun to 'ramp' the ball  |
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 19 October 2006 at 7:32pm |
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Last season I had to bowl on a grassy pitch as a spin bowler and
from my 5 overs I got 2/24 which is not up to my usual standard, I was
wondering whether anyone had any tips of bowling somewhere that is not
suited to their type of bowling?
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fishcake14
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Posted: 19 October 2006 at 9:05pm |
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Mixing your pace works on any pitch, mate. Try and include your straighter ones more; if your legspinner's not turning, introduce the slider/ topspinner/ googlinky Line and length. Works every time.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 19 October 2006 at 11:39pm |
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This might turn out to be a good thread.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 20 October 2006 at 1:13am |
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Thankyou DF, its more of an allsorts thread, not particularly about
either batting or bowling. It can help you with the technical side of
cricket. eg strategy and faults in your game.
Thanks fishcake, ill try that next time. |
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MP12
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Posted: 20 October 2006 at 7:20am |
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hit over the slips its rather risky but is a good shot if played right
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fortylicks
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Posted: 20 October 2006 at 12:35pm |
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I tend to hit it through the slips
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 20 October 2006 at 8:43pm |
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Theres rarely any slips in 2020 cricket so I could do some of those things.
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fortylicks
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Posted: 20 October 2006 at 8:59pm |
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I call it "the slip drive"...
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spin wizard
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Posted: 20 October 2006 at 9:08pm |
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Its simple, more back of a lenght deliveries and more skidders like the slider and flipper. A fast wicket is there to beat players with pace so try to get them to go back and get them lbw. |
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 24 October 2006 at 10:49am |
Bowl defensively and don't try and do too much, keep it tight and hope batsmen get themselves out. Slowing right down will mean the batsmen have to swing their arms a bit more, which may mean you get them but may mean you get slapped around a bit...youd have to judge that on the day but its worth a thought depending on the batsman and the state of the game, obviously field-placings are crucial for this approach |
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peninsula
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Posted: 27 October 2006 at 6:31am |
 Hi, ive been a cricketer for about 8 years now, and i have recently been seeing great results batting at number 4 in the preliminary grades, and have now reached the premiers. My first innings was an edgy 26, which is where i have found a few more areas to work on in order to accomodate for the increased pace, and increased skill from the bowlers. The problem im facing is the pace. What can i do to increase my reaction time, or the time at which i pick the ball up from the bowler. I especially have problems with the short ball, but the full ball i can easily handle. I think i was facing a bowler whos known to be in the 135-140 range, so what can i do in order to get my eye to pick up the ball? Thanks for your time |
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Chin Music
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Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:41am |
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If your present technique has suited you through so far, and obviously you've done well enough to reach a good standard, then I wouldn't reccomend changing anything, at least untill you've had time to feel your way into this standard. You'll need time to adjust, to get used to differences, and you can't do that if you're batting doesn't feel natural, which it won't if you try to change anything. After you judge you've come through a period of adjustment and you feel more comfortable, then there may well be issues that your coaches point out, but I'd say you're best leaving it to them. They will want to watch you for a while batting your way and judge your natural ability before they commit to changing your technique. I think it's easy, particularly in such a technically-based sport as cricket, to over analyse and to tinker too much, when a feature of any good sportsman is that it comes so naturally.
Obviously, nothing I've said here has answered your actual question in anyway, but I think the advice I've offered is more useful at present than anything technical. Or possibly it's because as an Englishman it ain't in my interests to help a young Aussie cricketer reach his full potential...  Edited by Chin Music |
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peninsula
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Posted: 27 October 2006 at 12:13pm |
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Haha thanks mate. Appreciate it. I like my technique for the length ball, and front foot defence. I am just having a bit of trouble picking the length early enough, in order to commit to front or back foot. Well, its hard to explain. I actually do pick the length, but the line of the short ball is what tricks me, as at the point of release. My initial movement is foreward as ive found that to be the way which leads to me staying out there, but the short ball troubles me. With regards to the pace, its basically just getting my foot out on the off side in time to play a comfortable stroke. My last innings i was basically fishing at it, as i was playing with my arms and eyes without much movement of the feet. Anyhow, thank you very much for the reply.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 27 October 2006 at 4:01pm |
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If you're making a step up to a level with quicker bowlers it's always likely that the short ball is going to be particularly difficult, especially if you like to move forward first. Also, if you're not able to cut properly you could think about not cutting at all, especially early on in the innings, but maybe that's not practical on the pitches you have out there. You could just come and play in England, with any luck you'd probably make 1000+ runs a season without going back once!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 27 October 2006 at 5:44pm |
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To peninsula..... I think its because you may be on the front foot is why you can't play the shorter balls. Front foot is never the way to play short stuff especially if you aint the class of someone like Punter. I recommend that you get a pacer to bowl pure short stuff at you and you can practice on adjusting to the backfoot quickly and pulling the ball. My coach did that to me once and I can play the pull strokes better now than before. Also, if your reaction time aint all that quick, you could play the ball a bit later like I do. You can be successful by doing that. When the pitch up ones come, then you can do your usual stuff. |
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:04pm |
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Hours at the bowling machine is what I suggest!
Look at the ball when it comes out the hand, if he flicks it forward fast then its short. |
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Pumaman
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Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:33pm |
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If you take your guard outside of your crease you can always move your stance right back within your crease t give yourself more time
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Minor counties suck and then you play for one
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Pietersen Fan
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Posted: 10 December 2006 at 1:12am |
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well said
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check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 11 December 2006 at 8:09pm |
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I've got a question. What should a captain do if he is defending 280 on
the final day of a test match with the series level, attack or defend?
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Posted: 12 December 2006 at 7:07am |
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Would it be the last test match of the series?
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